AMD's 5000-series Zen 3 chip appears in database, could beat Intel's Core i9-10900K

Shadowboxer

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I’m disappointed, I wanted a bigger bump in gaming performance than this. I don’t care which manufacturer it comes from I just want more than 20-40fps best case scenario over my existing 6 year old 4790K considering how much I’d have to spend. And I don’t give a dam about how it performs at anything but gaming.
 

deksman2

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Why do companies struggle to name anything? What was wrong with calling the Zen2 laptop CPU's something in the 3000 range? Just add a different letter at the end or change a number, so 3800x meant 8 cores desktop, then 3870L , 70 for laptop variant and L for low power variant and a H for a high power variant?

Am I missing something?
No... you're not missing anything.
Companies naming policies are strange to say the least.
With Zen 1... laptops used 2xxx numbeing... whereas in reality it should have been 1700U.
For Zen + (12nm), it should have been 1700U+
For Zen 2, they should have named it like this: 2700U (as opposed to 4700U).
And Zen 3, they should have named it 3700U.

Simple as that.
Little or no confusion... this way it would have been easier... but now they skipped the 4xxx numbering all-together (because Zen 2 APU's use it) and are using 5xxx numbering for less confusion.

I don't know who is in charge of naming within AMD, but Intel's naming scheme is hardly any better.
 

Dyper

Posts: 22   +8
So it’s another good CPU. Seen lots of those from Intel and AMD.
I’m waiting for a GREAT CPU.
Tiger Lake or Cezanne after they get tuned up by next summer.

The way these 2 firms are competing with pricing I might wait longer.
Competition means price wars, and technology refinements.
I got all year.

Liked Windows 10, but wouldn’t touch it until late 2019.
No need fixing something that already works.

Happy Days


 

daimag

Posts: 12   +0
We had lot of leaks of Zen2 weeks before it was unveiled but not for Zen3. Is it because AMD is getting better at plugging the leaks or market interest is simply not there? I certainly more interested in GPU war between AMD and Nvidia than CPU war between AMD and Intel.
 
This still makes me laugh in the comments section to this day. I built a 3600 system for my GF's place and I currently have a 8700k overclocked to 5GHz at home under water and I gotta say... I notice absolutely no difference!
It only matters for competitive gamers who want higher FPS at lower resolutions. No one else will notice a real world difference aside from latency differences combined with faster ram when opening applications and such.
 

Dyper

Posts: 22   +8
It only matters for competitive gamers who want higher FPS at lower resolutions. No one else will notice a real world difference aside from latency differences combined with faster ram when opening applications and such.
I beg to differ, at least from my workflows.

I’m not a gamer, but a live performer using sampled instruments (streaming) and virtual synthesizers, some which are multi core optimized, others single core locked.

My sampled Instruments rely on streaming, so subsystem memory is vital, both CPUs do fine here, then AMD 3700X can handle more multi core optimized synths, naturally a cheaper 8 core works much better loading more, not scalable by core count, around 3-35% more, but single core locked synths and apps excel on my NOS/NIB 4790k’s.

AMDs crap out there at 80% CPU usage, where Intel red lines and has zero artifacts.

Seems AMD 5000s have unified their new cache so if true, that settles that. And Intel’s Tiger Lake with larger cache should also be a big step up.

So 2021 will be a great year for everyone thanks to AMD.
FWIW my 8086k I keep as a spare loads more synths than my 4790k’s do. 25% more.

I need and use both because they have different strengths.
Intel 9700k’s aren’t much better than 8086/8700s though because it’s just another 14nm design.

14nm needs too much juice to use in 1U rackmounts which is why I’m waiting to upgrade. 2021 will be a great year for the CPU wars.
I need minimal GFX, so Cezanne is what I’m waiting for. If Tiger Lake 8 cores are released before that I’ll have to buy both.

First rule of spending. Why buy one when you can have two for twice the price.
 
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Dyper

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Hadden Industries....:laughing:

Too bad those 3300’s aren’t available, even the 3500’s are hard to get because AMD is pushing the latest 3000 series, again.

Hope you score at least one cheap *** cheap. They’re all going to be good next year thanks to competition.