An easy question: XP x64 vs Win7 x64?

psycros

Posts: 3,494   +4,182
Its Microsoft's dirty little (not so) secret, and the apologists can say anything they like and it won't change reality. Windows topped out in ease of use, performance and flexibility with XP and its all been downhill since. They've made some minor strides in security but even those can be replicated in XP with the proper software installed.
 

Tgard

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I also ran XP Pro 64 for years and loved it. Everything did not have drivers at first but later on was much better. I believe I was able to use some Vista 64 drivers in some cases if I remember correctly. Ran excellent on my hardware also but my hardware was pretty good. Upgraded to Win7 64 last year and after some problems I am ok with it. My biggest problems came with the Sound Blaster drivers so much so that I finally pulled it and with with on board audio. My SB X-Fi Platinum Fatality with live drive was awesome but I got tired of trying to make everything work in Win7 64. Creatives fault and not Windows. I am used to Win764 now and would not choose to go back to XP64 even if I wanted to.
 

tipstir

Posts: 2,854   +200
Windows XP Pro 64-bit Browser IE 64-bit was quick. The issue I see that not much was done for this OS back then. Today I see no point running it. I use Windows 7 U-64 with 32GB of DDR3 on AMD Q-4 3200/3700GHz Next Gen but then Browsers I use Chrome, FireFox, Opera, and Safari do not run in 64-bit mode. So not using all 64 lanes and just stuck in 32 lanes. If they could get 64-bit Browsers to work would be better. 64-bit Office 2010 Pro Plus 64-bit instead of 32-bit Office huge jump.
 

Jad Chaar

Posts: 6,481   +976
Windows 7 x64. XP x64 was a huge failure, and though the driver support is good now, why buy the old? MS has stopped support for XP anyway. E.g., Halo 4 won't run on XP, x32 or x64. And future games will follow that example.
Windows 7 x64 is better than XP x64 in all terms, performance, stability, compatibility, etc.
So go for Windows 7 x64.
halo 4 is only on xbox lol :). with a 6870 it is wasteful to buy a OS without DX11, Windows 7 will be a better choice.
 

Marnomancer

Posts: 709   +53
LOL, yes, this post was from the time I still believed Halo 4 would be ported to the PC. :p
There are other games too though.
I've heard Half Life 3 is Linux exclusive!
 
Don't believe these frustro kids who say windows 7 is better , they just want to state there case

win xp 64 is better even tho some fail benchmarks pose the opposite

when I use computer im not doing benchmarks im doing regular surfing and gaming and in that win xp 64 is way faster then newer win 7 with just faster coppying and u don't need to reboot when ur grafic card crashes
 

Jad Chaar

Posts: 6,481   +976
Don't believe these frustro kids who say windows 7 is better , they just want to state there case

win xp 64 is better even tho some fail benchmarks pose the opposite

when I use computer im not doing benchmarks im doing regular surfing and gaming and in that win xp 64 is way faster then newer win 7 with just faster coppying and u don't need to reboot when ur grafic card crashes
I do not know what you are talking about... XP 64 was a new thing while Win 7 64 was a refined 64bit OS
 
I have 200 fps in latest game natural selection 2
when I use windows 7 or 8 and put most services off
grafic card on low I can be happy with 140 fps
wheres your windows 7 for gaming then? roflol
 
So many years later... I would like to mention something that nobody mentioned in this thread...
Windows XP (32bits or 64bits)... IT IS PHYSICALLY YOURS...
you do not require anyone's authorization to install it and use it... not en 2001.. not today.. not ever...
And it was the last one that gave you that..

Windows 7.. and so on... When Microsoft decides not to give you anymore "Activation Code".. It will not work anymore..
because technically is not yours.. even when your paid for it...

Now for software that also is not yours .. and requires someone else authorization for you to use it .. like Games from Steam or Origin for example ..
It does not matter .... they decide witch Windows and what computer you have to have for wun the software or game... so those will nor work in WinXP anyway..
Even when is perfectly capable of it..
Like for example Duke Nukem 3D from 1996.. or Half-Life from 1998 ... Steam will not let you run it in Windwos XP... even when is perfectly capable of it.....

Now for use software that if really belongs physically to you ..
As the original version of Duke Nukem 3D 1996.. or the original version Half-Life 1998.. or Far Cry 2005 or any other game or software that you have a physically copy of...
Well..... then Windows XP always will be you only option..
Again when Microsoft decides not to give you anymore "Activation Code".. for Windows 7 or Windows 8 or even Windows 10 in some point in the future..
 

defaultluser

Posts: 182   +133
Lots of ways to activate 7 without microsofts approval

You can also bypass this "Activation BS" completely by going Windows 2000!

Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 = exactly the same feature-set as XP, minus the DOS emulation. Every "Game made for XP" will run in 2000.
 

SNGX1275

Posts: 10,606   +464
Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 = exactly the same feature-set as XP, minus the DOS emulation. Every "Game made for XP" will run in 2000.
My recollection was that 2000 was on like SP2 when XP came out, This is important, because XP was playing those games right then, it would take a few more years before 2000 caught up to XP with SP4. Even then though, you still had to do a lot of tweaking of 2000 to get some games to work. I remember Per Hasson on these forums used to write guides on how to get whatever game working on 2000.

I mean this isn't relevant as to this recent direction of the thread. But I suppose I can force it that way.... Why would you bother worrying about installing 2000SP4 to play a game in 2021, as noted above you can get around the activations now. If you were going for wanting it to run on lower hardware (only advantage of running 2000SP4 over XP AnySP) there isn't going to be a noticeable improvement over XP in a VM.
 
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defaultluser

Posts: 182   +133
My recollection was that 2000 was on like SP2 when XP came out, This is important, because XP was playing those games right then, it would take a few more years before 2000 caught up to XP with SP4. Even then though, you still had to do a lot of tweaking of 2000 to get some games to work. I remember Per Hasson on these forums used to write guides on how to get whatever game working on 2000.

I mean this isn't relevant as to this recent direction of the thread. But I suppose I can force it that way.... Why would you bother worrying about installing 2000SP4 to play a game in 2021, as noted above you can get around the activations now. If you were going for wanting it to run on lower hardware (only advantage of running 2000SP4 over XP AnySP) there isn't going to be a noticeable improvement over XP in a VM.


Whatever lies you want to tell yourself to make you sleep better at night (I'm sure at most there might be a 2% performance difference between the two- lost-in-the-noise, but whatever floats your boat?)

- signed, the man who did Windows gaming from 2000 to 2005 on his Windows 2000 system.

I only upgraded to XP in 2006, because I sold my old Win 2k system to a friend, and after seeing Vista, I took advantage of a $20 copy of XP to get me through the next four years.
 
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wizardB

Posts: 203   +78
Windows 7 x64. XP x64 was a huge failure, and though the driver support is good now, why buy the old? MS has stopped support for XP anyway. E.g., Halo 4 won't run on XP, x32 or x64. And future games will follow that example.
Windows 7 x64 is better than XP x64 in all terms, performance, stability, compatibility, etc.
So go for Windows 7 x64.
Actually, Windows 64 was an excellent OS working smoothly, worked well with all x64 processors and other hardware but Intel's advertising worked overtime to convince people that they had no need of an inferior OS because they had dropped the ball and let AMD create an x64 processor while the Intel shills were trying to tell you that you had no need of a 64-bit processor. Microsoft actually colluded with Intel and held back the release of XP64 for over 6 months so that intel could try and catch up with AMD.