That would be a start, but he won't win my respect with that alone. An apology from Musk means little if he turns around the next day and starts all over again.
Another Musk moment: Tesla CEO's 'pedo guy' case is going to trial
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If you do not see that Musk's actions are not at all founded in ethics, then perhaps it would help if you take a hard look at Musk and his companies. To start with, Tesla has been profusely bleeding money since day one, and there is typically some SpaceX launch a few days before a Tesla earnings report to distract from the fact that Tesla lost money.
That did not work out for Musk this time when his dragon capsule started breathing fire from some place that fire should never come out.
Knot Schure
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You can't simply apologize for such defamatory remarks, ESPECIALLY after you email the press, re-iterate, and propose a wager on said comments. The only thing Musk didn't do was carve these remarks into stone.
Let us say nothing for the hypocracy of trying to have the case thrown out of court, after throwing down the proverbial guantlet, eh?
I for one, am very pleased to see Musk get his day in court on this matter.
Words have consequences.
Knot Schure
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Please tell me what a paedophile looks like, so that I may avoid when seen.
I can only assume you have encountered enough of them to have adopted a mental physical appearance, and we feel you should share us that information.
Knot Schure
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I'm glad someone else pointed out that 'signed dollar'. I wouldn't want a 20 someone I hated dropped on the floor.
This displays Narcissism at its best.
I especailly like your 'wipe your arse with it' comment.
captaincranky
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No, Musk needs to pay off the person he defamed in cash. My perception of, "poetic justice", would be forcing Musk to pay off the settlement with a few million dollars in cash, all in ones, with each and every one hand signed personally by him.
captaincranky
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Tell me something, why do so many of Musk's groupies imagine themselves to be on a first name basis with him?
By displaying characteristics like his, my bet is that they are hoping for an audience with his Royal Muskness and then employment among his minions as they would get that golden shower from above in reward.
gusticles41
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Just force a public apology and move on...These money-extorting court cases are a ridiculous waste of time. No one actually believes the guy is a pedo because of that stupid tweet.
Don't forget, this is Musk. No, no one in their right mind would think that just because Musk says that this guy is a pedo, that he really is.
However, Musk might think twice about doing something similar if there is a financial penalty involved. As I see it, without that penalty, Musk will just do the same thing again and again.
In some respects, I don't think Musk can help himself. His businesses, despite what some think, are not doing well (losing $700M a quarter from Tesla really ought to convince even Musk worshipers of that fact), and Musk is under a great deal of stress to perform. So, instead of taking personal responsibility for the fact that not everyone worships him, he vents in a fashion that really only tarnishes his reputation. Giving Musk a good spanking might knock some sense into him, IMO.
Knot Schure
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Whether or not you think someone actually believes it, the damage is done.
Musk used that comment as a first-strike weapon, and was entirely out of order in doing so.
gusticles41
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Knot Schure
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If not a fine, how then, do you propose Musk be punished? Hung? Slapped on the wrist?
Pray tell.
captaincranky
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So what? Isn't that what Musk's entire life has been about, getting a chunk of everybody else's money?
gusticles41
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You're mistaking this as me defending Musk. Idgaf about his reputation or whatever, I'm just over seeing these waste of time and resource court cases clogging up the system and making headlines.
Public apology? Take him out for lunch? I don't really care. When I said something mean to my sister as a kid our parents would make me apologize. There was nothing more humiliating and that was a quick way to curb stupid behavior.
Knot Schure
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I'm sorry to say, but you are waaaaay off on this one pal. I'm happy you are able to resolve your family disputes so well, but this was a very public incident, with nuclear-grade insults given.
You can't shake hands after this one, and I am usually oh-so-forgiving in life.
But it does sound like you care...
captaincranky
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Well, Musk isn't you and your baby sister fighting and saying rude things to each other in the privacy of your parents home, and it's is a far cry from (a supposed), world leader, trashing people on a world stage.
"When I was a child, I spake as a child". and apparently you and Musk still do.
The dive team leader will have hoards of lawyers willing to take Musk on a contingency basis.
Whereas Musk, OTOH, will have to spend his, (really his stockholder's), money to defend himself.
Not to wander too far off topic, but when you were a child,did you have the power to manipulate the stock market just by running your yap? (I didn't think so).
Musk doesn't open his mouth unless he feels he can gain a financial, tactical, or prestige advantage by doing so.
I vividly remember the time he was holding a press conference, showing "the space suit", he was going to have commissioned for his "Mars colony". Which, (oddly enough), was held at the same time as Tesla's quarterly "earnings report", (actually a quarter billion dollar loss) was released,. He's the smoke and mirrors douche of the business world.
So, please stop insulting our intelligence by comparing Musk's public outcries with you and you little sister's private squabbles.
Let him waste the court's and his own time, so that we don't have to listen to his fantasy nonsense ad naseum, at least for a while..
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gusticles41
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You take every opportunity on this forum to rant about Musk and how his companies aren't profitable. Yes, quite off topic.
Sibling squabble is obviously a small scale analogy. My very simple point and opinion is how often mountains are made out of molehills when it comes to a sue-happy society given an opportunity to make a quick buck off of a rich 1d10t.
Now...If I were the diver and had this opportunity to grab money out of Musk's pocket, would I? I'm hard pressed to say I wouldn't. But that's only because the courts process incidents like this as if the person is actually going to live through years of hardship and emotional turmoil after being insulted on Twitter.
captaincranky
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No , not really. I'm outnumbered by his groupies on the site by a pretty much fair margin. Are you suggesting, I fall into the ranks, or just keep my mouth shut?
Well, we are a sue happy society. Trust me, I suffer what seems like an endless stream of personal injury lawyer's ad on TV, all day, and all night.
What you're not considering is that the specificity of Musk's accusations could have life long ramifications for this person. If two bulls are sparring, and one calls the other a "douche bag", (or worse), no harm is done. But when Musk calls someone a pedophile, a lot of eyebrows go up, in many different parts of the community..
Now since you've pointed out how I take every opportunity to revile Musk, there are, (IMO too many), hoards of people in the world who revere him. You have to admit, if he can alter stock prices with a simple tweet, then many people may or do, take him seriously as, "knowing a child molester when he sees one"
But you never know do you? Perhaps he runs a school for young divers. Suppose his prospective students or their parents are huge fans of Musk, and decide not to send their children to his classes?
So, being called a "child molester", leaves a stink which doesn't wash off very easily, if at all..
OTOH, I've been called an, "old haid, piece of sh!t white m*th*er f*cker" for the past at least 30 years, and I haven't shot or sued anybody for it yet.
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