Apple pressures Microsoft to cease laptop hunter ads?

By Justin · 62 replies
Jul 16, 2009
  1. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    The bottom line is there are not that many people that are undecided on what system they want to buy, so for the most part all the arguing back and forth is moot.

    Apple doesn't want to lower prices because they are still selling a lot of Macs as is, if they lower the price they might sell more, but they'd make less. They have a responsibility to their shareholders to make the most they can, I'm sure their employees that make the pricing decisions know better than the general public on what is best for Apple. I don't really think Apple cares what most of the people that bash them about pricing care.

    I've got 3 Macs and 3 PCs in my house running: OS X 10.5, WindowsME, Windows Vista, Windows 7 RC, Ubuntu 9.04, and Puppy Linux (same pc as WinME). I don't have any dislike for PCs, and I don't have any over abundance of love for Apple. This talk about open systems being superior and all (2 posts above this one) isn't 100% true, because if that was true everyone would be running some form of Linux.

    Those $400 17" laptops have incredibly shitty screens though, something like 1440x900 on a 17". Thats piss poor, so while you can get a big heavy fast 17" laptop, they have to cut corners on price somewhere, and the thing you spend looking at while you are using might not be the best place. But then again, if all you want is a big laptop for cheap, then there you go. Its all about choice, the people that spend a lot on Apple products know they are doing so, all this fighting about it is a waste of time.
  2. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,023   +2,556

    I always refer back to the prices of "Net Books", when I compare, features, price, and of course screen resolution, in a low price laptop. Fact of the matter is, most 19" stand alone monitors have 1440 x 900 resolution. So, it's difficult to condemn a 400 dollar carry around for sporting the same rez. That, coupled with the fact the new generation TN panel screens are pretty much crap by any definition of standard anyway. I actually didn't realize that we were fighting, (as a group), I'm just being my obnoxious opinionated self. My way of having fun, as it were. This thread is so far off topic anyway, you should probably re-title it anyway.

    Anyhoo, I don't know if I've mentioned this, but my son is the proud owner of a broken Mac-Mini. I gave him a Celeron 356 PC, which runs circles around the Mini in spite of the fact I didn't reinstall Windows when I changed the mother broad, just jambed the HDD back in it, and plugged it in. It's sort of typical but I really have to walk on eggshells when I discuss the Mini. Every statement must be prefaced with, "now Apple obviously offers a fine product". If not, and sometimes even if I say this, an argument ensues, thematically revolving around, you're picking on me, (again). So I guess he's the typical Mac owner, "to love me, you must also love my Mac". The kid. love him as I do, is quite a snob, went to art college and all that.
  3. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    Netbooks are insanely cheap for relatively good features, I just bought a Lenovo one for my dad. Apple doesn't have anything in that area, they have the Air, but comparing it to a netbook is perhaps unfair. It is better compared to the Sony Vaio's that are basically netbooks but with 3-5x the price.
  4. I doubt it. If you had any idea what kind of man Steve Jobs was, you'd be hesitant to say that.
  5. That's what I was referring to when I said I doubt it. Sorry for the double post.
  6. Wouldn't it be a far better excercise for both M/S & Apple be requested to produce a laptop at a given price, say $1200.00 for example, and THEN compare the product that they come out with?
    Just to make it a fair contest that we could all accept, make one of the conditions be that the laptop model must be freely available on the market to the public for a period of approx 6 months.
  7. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    That would be difficult considering Microsoft doesn't make computers.
  8. macs are made in china too...
  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    Despite my reluctance to push this back up to commented, I feel it is necessary because of solid information. Apple's complaint about the ads was indeed because of the price shown.

  10. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,023   +2,556

    Enough already with Apple complaining about disinformation with respect to their prices.When I'm going out to buy a $300.00 laptop, I don't care which brand it might be!, If there's a Apple for 3 georges, I'll buy that. But, it has to be an actual computer. I'm not settling for just an empty white case. :rolleyes: :haha:
  11. I think Apple should run a response commercial with a script something like

    "In their commercial, Microsoft claimed this computer cost $1999. Now, after a price reduction, it's only $1899. See? Macs are affordable now!"

    I think that would really clear up the issue for everyone.
  12. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,023   +2,556

    Then M$ should run the same commercial with a, "I'm a PC still, and a hundred measly dollar price rollback, doesn't really mean very much" punchline.

    Perhaps then Apple could run another ad stating that their computers are now only "almost extravagantly' overpriced, as opposed to being, "extravagantly overpriced". That'd hit M$ where it hurts....., or possibly not. :rolleyes:
  13. I was recently at a Microsoft Partner event where Steve Balmer stood on stage and with huge satisfaction and glee, announced that his best day this year was when Apple phoned him and said they wanted Microsoft to pull the adverts. He said "FINALLY! we're getting to them". And he's right, the MS adverts are great, very true to point and Apple products (great as they are) are overpriced and overhyped. I'd buy a PC any day - although I still believe there is nothing to touch the iPhone - which is fantastic.
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