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Argument over video game leads teenager to shoot and kill friend

By midian182 · 136 replies
Feb 18, 2018
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  1. A 16-year-old Columbia male has been charged with murder after shooting his friend while they were playing a video game.

    Columbia police department said Cisco Knightner, 17, was reportedly playing a basketball game with three of his friends when an argument started. The suspect pulled out a gun and shot Knightner in the head. He was pronounced dead at a local hospital.

    Because of his age, the shooter has not been named. TV station WLTX19 reports that he was Knightner’s lifelong friend. Police said he turned himself in and was charged with murder and possession of a weapon during a violent crime. He was booked at the Richland County Detention Center, though authorities have not said if they plan to charge him as an adult.

    "I never thought that a friend would just do that to him," said Knightner’s 11-year-old sister, Faith Knightner-Diggs.

    Another fatal shooting incident took place on the same night in Columbia, in which a teenager and a taxi driver shot each other following an argument over a fare.

    "Three people lost their lives because of petty arguments that led to senseless crimes,” said Columbia Police Chief Skip Holbrook. "Three people lost their lives because of petty arguments that led to senseless crimes. Two of the victims and a suspect in these cases were teenagers who had direct and unlawful access to guns. Too many people are quick to settle disputes in a violent manner. We, along with our community partners are working to prevent this type of violence."

    There’s concern that video games are once again being demonized and blamed for violent crimes. The latest incident comes after 28-year-old Matthew Nicholson allegedly shot and killed his mother last month after he became upset while gaming. Additionally, Kentucky governor Matt Bevin blamed "garbage" video games on the recent Florida high-school shooting.

    “...they’re [video games] forced down our throats under the guise of protected speech. It’s garbage. It’s the same as pornography. They have desensitized people to the value of human life, to the dignity of women, to the dignity of human decency,” said Bevin.

    The World Health Organization’s inclusion of “gaming disorder” in the draft of its International Classification of Diseases didn’t help the medium’s reputation. Despite plenty of studies showing no evidence to support links between games and violent behavior, they have been blamed on shootings reaching as far back as Columbine—families of those who lost their lives in the 1999 massacre tried to sue several game companies, but the suit was dismissed.

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  2. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,648   +1,879

    this threw me off....I mean, yeah, you can commit a violent crime without a weapon but do they really need to add that to a murder charge?
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  3. Holyscrap

    Holyscrap TS Enthusiast Posts: 45   +21

    You can commit murder with your bare hands. Many fistfights have turned into murder cases.
    IAMTHESTIG and alabama man like this.
  4. ZackL04

    ZackL04 TS Maniac Posts: 406   +209

    How does a 17 yr old get his hands on a handgun?? Sounds like it was on him the whole time, just ridiculous.

    We can talk about gun control, and not get anywhere. But jesus christ if you have a gun lock the godamn thing up.
    Boilerhog146 likes this.
  5. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,665   +1,133

    That's it! My kids won't be playing these violent basketball games no more!
    GreyFoxx likes this.
  6. ZackL04

    ZackL04 TS Maniac Posts: 406   +209

    Ya, the game really has nothing to do with the aggresive violence. I would assume anything could have triggered this execution style reaction with this animal.
  7. Lionvibez

    Lionvibez TS Evangelist Posts: 1,410   +569

    And this is why I would never live in the US.

    Too many retards and access to guns way too easy.

    This same incident in Canada would have ended in a fist fight and the end of a friendship.

    Everyone lives to play again.
    qking likes this.
  8. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,235   +760

    Yeah, because Canadians have no deadly weapons /sarcasm

    Probably would've pulled out a knife and stabbed him in the neck (or head), at the least.....
    Boilerhog146, Reehahs and psycros like this.
  9. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,648   +1,879

    I know, but what's the point? He's going to do 25 to life anyway. It just seems like a dumb charge.
    Homicide due to gun violence is some of the lowest in the world. Private citizens can't own guns in Mexico but they have one of the highest murder rates due to gun violence in the world.

    Look at the Boston bombing, you don't need a firearm to commit acts of terror and mass murder.

    I get it that to people who don't understand guns look at them and think they're scary and in the wrong hands they can be. It's easy to point to this object and blame it but if you don't address the root cause of the problem then taking away guns won't do anything. Using basic cleaning products in your house you can make bombs(boston bombing) or chemical weapons. Other countries like to point at the US and scream guns while ignore stabbings and acid attacks.

    Yeah, we have a higher rate of gun deaths than England but our crime rate is far lower.
    Boilerhog146, IAMTHESTIG and psycros like this.
  10. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,351   +1,133

    Did you even Google crime rates over the last 10-15 years and compare? This, this is too much. Do you happen to live in the south side of America? (just out of curiosity)
  11. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,648   +1,879

    Crime rates in the US have been going down since 1992 and are at some of their lowest in history. Meanwhile, in Europe, crime rates have been going up considerably over the last 10 years.

    But if you have a point you want to make I'd be more than happy to read it. Your post didn't really say anything

    Edit:. And, no, I live in Pittsburgh, the north east
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  12. pit1209

    pit1209 TS Rookie

    I understand the point on some of this replys but they're incorrect about the matter at hand, the problem is not just whats hes done to his friend with a handgun, he could have used any other method but the fact that because it is so easy in the US to get one and its also so easy to lose control as a teenager (specially in the US, where violence can be so common in some places) and just pull a trigger, the damage has been done, its not the same as if he just punched his friend once or twice and then got sorry, now there's not turning back and to have the nerves and deliberately plan ahead a violent act its by far not the same.
  13. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 10,797   +4,605

    I wholeheartedly agree.
    dms96960 likes this.
  14. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 2,321   +1,935

    Truth has been spoken. Up until the mid-1980's, Americans had far easier access to firearms than they do today and a higher percentage of the population owned firearms. Yet mass shootings were practically unheard of. Prior to the 1970's *all* gun crimes were relatively rare as well. Could it be that people did a better job raising their kids then, or perhaps it was the lack of access to cheap mind-melting drugs? Perhaps it was the fact that the Great Society led to a burgeoning welfare state where many children never knew what it was to have pride in an honest day's work. In any case, nobody was particularly afraid of a firearm unless it was in the hand of someone wearing a mask. Some high schools had target shooting as a competitive sport and boys kept their rifles in their lockers, and in many rural areas it was common for kids to bring a gun on the first day of hunting season. They could head for the woods as soon as class let out. Guns were never the root problem in America where gun violence was concerned. There were two exceptions in US history where gun violence escalated dramatically, however. During the Old West period occurrences of gun violence were comparable to what they are today, but only in frontier areas that attracted the get-rich-quick types and those running from authorities. The other abnormality was the Prohibition era where gangsters tore up the big cities in their wars over turf and control of the smuggling industry - again, it was all about getting rich fast by any means possible . In neither case were average citizens the ones using firearms to commit acts of terror and murder. Its always the criminal minded or unhinged who commit atrocities outside of a war zone. The statistics are pretty clear: a civilized society that expects its citizens to maintain a higher standard of behavior and which doesn't allow the growth of a huge underclass will rarely have a gun problem. The policies of America's corporate-government "leaders" over the past 50 years have achieved exactly the opposite effect because, like the train robbers and mafioso, their all about money and power. The worst of them pick and choose which demographic groups to hold accountable for their actions, based on cold calculations about potential votes and influence. Until this changes the situation will only get worse. Astoundingly, the "blame guns" crowd fails to comprehend one basic fact: if gun laws were the solution then we'd already have eradicated gun crime. Bear in mind these are usually the same people who say that drug laws won't stop illegal drugs so they actually DO understand this type of reasoning! They simply choose to apply it selectively in order to prop up their delusions. This kind of fantasy thinking solves NOTHING. You can't un-invent the firearm, either. A well maintained gun will last for generations. If all US gun makers closed up shop tomorrow we'd still have plenty of guns around for a couple centuries. And, since its obvious we can't stop illegal drug imports, what do you think the NEW hot item would be coming across the border? Guns, of course..their made all over the world, including South America. Curtailing the ammo supply might be somewhat effective but that would create an even bigger smuggling industry than if you outlawed guns entirely. Plus you can reload ammo at home with a pretty modest set of gear, which would allow for a *domestic* underground industry that would be virtually impossible to police. Ban gunpowder, you say? Typically easier to make than meth, and once again the lure of easy money would insure a massive illegal supply.

    If we really want to stop the violence, what's required is consistency of reason. If we really believe that Jihadist hatred on the Internet can radicalize people then music and other entertainment that glorifies the worst kinds of human behavior can have a similar effect. If we believe that being bullied damages self-esteem then constant brainwashing by educators is damaging to critical thinking ability. Until all of us stop cherry-picking our positions based on rigid ideology, nothing will get better. Our politicians aren't going to save us..we have to save ourselves. That starts with setting aside generations of indoctrination and thinking clearly.
    Boilerhog146, Halcyon and Lurker101 like this.
  15. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 10,797   +4,605

    Kids are protected from being adults until they are of age to join them. This makes them ignorant of consequences to their actions, even after they become adults.
  16. Gars

    Gars TS Booster Posts: 238

    coz he cheated ofc, with bare hands, will be a different story
    Reehahs likes this.
  17. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 3,192   +2,428

    "Another fatal shooting incident took place on the same night in Columbia, in which a teenager and a taxi driver shot each other following an argument over a fare."

    Whelp, there goes the argument that adding more guns will solve the gun problem. Big surprise, more guns = more deaths.

    Do you have any data to support that?


    From what I see, it's much easier now to get extremely deadly weapons without a background check or permit. Heck, in Texas you don't even have to be 18 to buy an assault rifle.

    Also your second statement is completely false

    "Americans had far easier access to firearms than they do today and a higher percentage of the population owned firearms"


    America has more than double the guns per capita compared to 1968.


    The data is extremely clear, gun deaths have increased as guns per capita have increased. You seem to be convinced it's impossible to stop people from getting guns yet so many other 1st world countries managed to do just that. And just a heads up, if the republicans truly believed that mental health was the true issue they would not be trying to make massive cuts to medicaid and healthcare in general to fund the plutocracy. It's pretty bad when you aren't even doing proper scapegoating.
  18. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 10,797   +4,605

    Only if you don't account for future kills, the kid can no longer commit.
  19. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 3,192   +2,428

    Well first, that doesn't change my point. Second, that's supposition.
  20. senketsu

    senketsu TS Guru Posts: 821   +553

    So what do we make of countries, like Switzerland that have compulsory military service. Every male has an assault rifle in their house with the rest of their gear. Israel as well except the women get to join in the fun,.
  21. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 3,192   +2,428

    Switzerland has about a quarter of the Guns per capita compared to the United States. Israel has about 1/10th


    The training likely helps as well. Zero training is required for gun ownership in the US.

    In addition, Gun control laws are more strict than in the US

  22. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 10,797   +4,605

    Yes it does.
    That can be said for both sides.
  23. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 3,192   +2,428

    Unless you can pull up an example of that happening with any sort of regularity, you submitted an assumption with zero basis in fact or reality.

    "That can be said for both sides."

    This would be the case for your argument. The facts are present for mine.
  24. qking

    qking TS Booster Posts: 48   +28

  25. Kenrick

    Kenrick TS Evangelist Posts: 630   +403

    Must be a violent kid from the start so avoiding this incident is a lottery if you are friends with him. Serves him right early to prevent him from sprouting. You need to have no conscience to be able to pull a trigger over a video game competition especially if that was your friend.
    Boilerhog146 likes this.

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