Soup Stand
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Hi,
I am new to the thread but a long time reader of TechSpot.
Here is my dilemma:
I purchased pc parts about a year ago, built me a pc, all parts good quality and from highly recommended shops. Only possible suspicion has been the OS on USB bought rather cheap from a 3rd-party Amazon seller.
Everything has been finely working until early March 2021. First problem was image and video distortions, which to my eye were totally random. Thumbnail images sometimes had red fuzzy lines over them, some videos on Youtube, Twitch etc. sometimes had red or green distortions, sometimes not. Then came the browser crashes, also seemed random.
I did virus scans on my F Secure program that was installed, came without any suspicions. Uninstalled it, and subscribed to a Norton one. It found some Trojans and dealt with them. Still the problems persisted. I reinstalled Windows 10, now a brand new official Microsoft one from DVD. Also ran the USB stick version of Norton where one can boot straight from there after BIOS and choose to boot from USB. It found a "high threat" and dealt with that, curiously dating that virus' age to around the time the problems started.
Yet the image and video distortions and browser crashes stayed. Also Norton now crashed often. In Norton history tab it said "blocked by unknown process". I contacted Norton who did several Remote Access session, as of now running at three sessions. First time they thought it was Java issue. And the quick scan did work... for a day.
I contacted again. Next session they wanted to extract log files (throught their LifeLock system that can be found at their official site so I find it secure, also talked with them on phone through their official number and through emails.)
Before the third time they explained their technicians had found no sign of viruses but the last session they took some history files and such still and told me they are still on the case.
Now I've also been addressing this as possible driver issue or a hardware issue. I am open to any result, as long as it gets me to a conclusion - if I need a new GPU or a motherboard etc. I am fine with that.
I have done things like rolled back to old gpu drivers, with no drivers, latest drivers, with all the Windows Update up to date, with Windows Update paused of a new clean install...
Another aspect is that so far all video games I've tested had zero issues. I have two rather gpu-demanding games, one from late 2020, one from 2021 with details turned to maximum, still working fine without even any frame drops. This one I found would indicate at least of all the parts the GPU was fine.
Also I've tried various BIOS versions. My Aorus Ultra X570 was at F20 when this started. I flashed (with @Bios program in Windows) to F30, then the latest out since yesterday F33. Curiously in BIOS Q-Flash gave me "can't read file" - with the same file that @Bios accepted fine under Windows 10.
I have a laptop that I've used to secure all my passwords, changed email etc. I'm for now treating the desktop as "risky".
I created also a USB burn of a Linux OS, but when I tried to install it on the desktop, I got an IRQ error (this was under F30 BIOS.) and the process stopped and I had to restart the computer.
I'm now in the process of getting programs to test the hardware, as much as I can, to rule out the hardware problem. As far as I know there is no way to test motherboard?
Apologies for this lengthy post.
But as a pixel artist and would-be programmer I've just lost all my passion for now until I can figure this out.
Also I have been talking via phone and email with F Secure, the company that I'm also still subscribed for their virus protection (not currently installed since I have Norton.) They have asked me to google tech problems for my motherboard, but when I asked whether as a worst case scenario, it is possible I have a BIOS virus, they said yes, but as a worst case scenario. I also sent them some log files they requested but found nothing. There was some program they thought potentially suspicious, but I have since reinstalled Windows and don't see it listed under Windows Apps anymore.
From what I have gathered it seems to at least visually and crash-wise isolated under Windows to programs that connect to internet. Although Steam and GOG Galaxy seem to be so far exceptions.
Even Discord program has had distortions in their startup animation. NVidia Experience, when online, has crashed a few times and also had some red visual distortions on some occasion.
Some more system details:
GPU: Nvidia RTX2070 Super
CPU: Ryzen 3900
PSU: Be Quiet! Platinum 750W
CPU fans: Noctua NH-D15.
Temperatures have never gone too high as far as I have observed on any components, all have seemed fine.
Yes, so there is the core of it.
Thank you very much if there is anyone who can study this and help tackle what to do.
Soup Stand
I am new to the thread but a long time reader of TechSpot.
Here is my dilemma:
I purchased pc parts about a year ago, built me a pc, all parts good quality and from highly recommended shops. Only possible suspicion has been the OS on USB bought rather cheap from a 3rd-party Amazon seller.
Everything has been finely working until early March 2021. First problem was image and video distortions, which to my eye were totally random. Thumbnail images sometimes had red fuzzy lines over them, some videos on Youtube, Twitch etc. sometimes had red or green distortions, sometimes not. Then came the browser crashes, also seemed random.
I did virus scans on my F Secure program that was installed, came without any suspicions. Uninstalled it, and subscribed to a Norton one. It found some Trojans and dealt with them. Still the problems persisted. I reinstalled Windows 10, now a brand new official Microsoft one from DVD. Also ran the USB stick version of Norton where one can boot straight from there after BIOS and choose to boot from USB. It found a "high threat" and dealt with that, curiously dating that virus' age to around the time the problems started.
Yet the image and video distortions and browser crashes stayed. Also Norton now crashed often. In Norton history tab it said "blocked by unknown process". I contacted Norton who did several Remote Access session, as of now running at three sessions. First time they thought it was Java issue. And the quick scan did work... for a day.
I contacted again. Next session they wanted to extract log files (throught their LifeLock system that can be found at their official site so I find it secure, also talked with them on phone through their official number and through emails.)
Before the third time they explained their technicians had found no sign of viruses but the last session they took some history files and such still and told me they are still on the case.
Now I've also been addressing this as possible driver issue or a hardware issue. I am open to any result, as long as it gets me to a conclusion - if I need a new GPU or a motherboard etc. I am fine with that.
I have done things like rolled back to old gpu drivers, with no drivers, latest drivers, with all the Windows Update up to date, with Windows Update paused of a new clean install...
Another aspect is that so far all video games I've tested had zero issues. I have two rather gpu-demanding games, one from late 2020, one from 2021 with details turned to maximum, still working fine without even any frame drops. This one I found would indicate at least of all the parts the GPU was fine.
Also I've tried various BIOS versions. My Aorus Ultra X570 was at F20 when this started. I flashed (with @Bios program in Windows) to F30, then the latest out since yesterday F33. Curiously in BIOS Q-Flash gave me "can't read file" - with the same file that @Bios accepted fine under Windows 10.
I have a laptop that I've used to secure all my passwords, changed email etc. I'm for now treating the desktop as "risky".
I created also a USB burn of a Linux OS, but when I tried to install it on the desktop, I got an IRQ error (this was under F30 BIOS.) and the process stopped and I had to restart the computer.
I'm now in the process of getting programs to test the hardware, as much as I can, to rule out the hardware problem. As far as I know there is no way to test motherboard?
Apologies for this lengthy post.
But as a pixel artist and would-be programmer I've just lost all my passion for now until I can figure this out.
Also I have been talking via phone and email with F Secure, the company that I'm also still subscribed for their virus protection (not currently installed since I have Norton.) They have asked me to google tech problems for my motherboard, but when I asked whether as a worst case scenario, it is possible I have a BIOS virus, they said yes, but as a worst case scenario. I also sent them some log files they requested but found nothing. There was some program they thought potentially suspicious, but I have since reinstalled Windows and don't see it listed under Windows Apps anymore.
From what I have gathered it seems to at least visually and crash-wise isolated under Windows to programs that connect to internet. Although Steam and GOG Galaxy seem to be so far exceptions.
Even Discord program has had distortions in their startup animation. NVidia Experience, when online, has crashed a few times and also had some red visual distortions on some occasion.
Some more system details:
GPU: Nvidia RTX2070 Super
CPU: Ryzen 3900
PSU: Be Quiet! Platinum 750W
CPU fans: Noctua NH-D15.
Temperatures have never gone too high as far as I have observed on any components, all have seemed fine.
Yes, so there is the core of it.
Thank you very much if there is anyone who can study this and help tackle what to do.
Soup Stand