Beedi/Bidi legal to buy for kids under 18?

By BnX ยท 58 replies
Jan 3, 2007
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  1. beef_jerky4104

    beef_jerky4104 Banned Posts: 822

    You know. Weed isn't bad for you. Infact tests prove that even heavy weed smokers don't lose lung health.

    The most dangerous thing abou weed is getting caught with it.
  2. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,975   +9

    It's still a recreational drug that can get you "high", which can lead to accidents and/or death from an accident.
  3. ambivolent

    ambivolent TS Rookie Posts: 67

    but so is drinking, i have alot of friends that smoke weed , and to tell you the truth i would rather be around a stoner than a drunk, stoner's are less prone to aggressive behavior to their addiction than drunks are
  4. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,975   +9

    I know, that is the flaw. I feel that alcohol is a terrible thing. The only reason that we have it is due to the bootlegging issues with the mafia during prohibition.
  5. tomrca

    tomrca TS Rookie Posts: 1,000

    where on earth did you get that information from.
    apart from having to use tobacco with it, go seek out information on mental health problems, driving under the influence, violence and sexual assaults.
    the only good weed does, is to give relief of pain to sufferers of MS and alike. its no wonder why kids are drawn to drugs with remarks like that.
    couldn't disagree with you and your like more!
  6. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    Yeah, marijuana smoking helps patients with terminal cancer with their pain too. But this is a debatable topic and according to my professor, research proves that legalizing it wouldn't make teens etc. worse off at all. In fact, it would have little, if any, effect on this strata of society. I don't know what to believe so I leave it to you to make up your mind and do your own research.

    Just for my 2 cents though, I believe it shouldn't be made legal, coz teens (like Tom said), just need a reason to smoke it. I should know, I'm friends with some of those puffers-of-white-death-sticks!
  7. tomrca

    tomrca TS Rookie Posts: 1,000

    just a few points hi-lighted.


    Marijuana is not a completely benign substance. Marijuana is a powerful drug with a variety of effects. However, except for the harms associated with smoking, the adverse effects of marijuana use are within the range of effects tolerated for other medications. The harmful effects to individuals from the perspective of possible medical use of marijuana are not necessarily the same as the harmful physical effects of drug abuse. When interpreting studies purporting to show the harmful effects of marijuana, it is important to keep in mind that the majority of those studies are based on smoked marijuana, and cannabinoid effects cannot be separated from the effects of inhaling smoke from burning plant material and contaminants.

    For most people the primary adverse effect of acute marijuana use is diminished psychomotor performance. It is, therefore, inadvisable to operate any vehicle or potentially dangerous equipment while under the influence of marijuana, THC (delta-9 tetrahydrocannibinol), or any cannabinoid drug with comparable effects. In addition, a minority of marijuana users experience dysphoria, or unpleasant feelings. Finally, the short-term immunosuppressive effects are not well established but, if they exist, are not likely great enough to preclude a legitimate medical use.

    The chronic effects of marijuana are of greater concern for medical use and fall into two categories: the effects of chronic smoking and the effects of THC. Marijuana smoking is associated with abnormalities of cells lining the human respiratory tract. Marijuana smoke, like tobacco smoke, is associated with increased risk of cancer, lung damage, and poor pregnancy outcomes. Although cellular, genetic, and human studies all suggest that marijuana smoke is an important risk factor for the development of respiratory cancer, proof that habitual marijuana smoking does or does not cause cancer awaits the results of well-designed studies.

    Numerous studies suggest that marijuana smoke is an important risk factor in the development of respiratory disease.

    Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit medicament most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first. In fact, most medicament users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana-usually before they are of legal age.

    In the sense that marijuana use typically precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use, it is indeed a "gateway" drug. But because underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, "gateway" to illicit drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs. An important caution is that data on drug use progression cannot be assumed to apply to the use of drugs for medical purposes. It does not follow from those data that if marijuana were available by prescription for medical use, the pattern of drug use would remain the same as seen in illicit use.

    Finally, there is a broad social concern that sanctioning the medical use of marijuana might increase its use among the general population. At this point there are no convincing data to support this concern. The existing data are consistent with the idea that this would not be a problem if the medical use of marijuana were as closely regulated as other medications with abuse potential.

    Present data on drug use progression neither support nor refute the suggestion that medical availability would increase drug abuse. However, this question is beyond the issues normally considered for medical uses of medicaments and should not be a factor in evaluating the therapeutic potential of marijuana or cannabinoids. NEW STUDY
  8. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    Is it just me or do those two statements seem to contradict each other?
  9. tomrca

    tomrca TS Rookie Posts: 1,000

    it think that it is because of the selection of hi-light. it needs to be viewed as a whole picture.
  10. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 7,241   +10

    High school pressures ? Sheesh !
    All it takes to quit is the will to do so, and the recognition that you are not really quit until three years have passed... and any smoking at any time afterwards in your life puts you back on the slippery slope. Quitting is a lifetime committment. Nothing less.
    1 person likes this.
  11. mowsey

    mowsey TS Rookie Posts: 16

    my grandma used to be a heavy smoker and she gave up on pure willpower, not a single cigarette while she was quitting, now she only has 1 to be sociable but only very rarely, i'm really proud of her :)
    anywho, i think that if people want to smoke, they should be able to, but if it harms other people it should be stopped, smoking only areas are fine because people don't have to go in them
  12. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,975   +9

    The smoking only areas are now diminishing, making smokers mad, and revolting at congress. I have no idea how you are able to sell something that kills your clients and have a clean conscious.
  13. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    Well that's what makers of "fine spirits" like Johnny Walker do. That's why movies like The Insider are made.
  14. twite

    twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 937

    Personally i think all drugs should be legal to posses. If someone really wants to do drugs, they will do them anyway whether there illegal or not. The only difference is, when there illegal, alot of people get hurt in the process of them trying to get those drugs. Of course they would be more available if they were legal, but if your stupid enough to do them in the first place, what would it matter if they were legal or illegal? It wouldn't. So why get in their way?

    If someone decides to use drugs..I could care less. When someone decides to use drugs, and harm or effect another person in anyway, thats when i care.

    That is my opinion.
  15. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,090

    hummmm....Both alcohol and "weed" are proven to be bad for you. We all can agree. Why was alcohol illegal, and prohibition created? Because the government couldn't tax it. They found a way to tax it, now its legal. Reason weed is not legal? The government can't find a way to tax it. Because they know it they legalize it, we will stop growing tomatoes in our gardens and replace it with good 'ole weed. That is the bottom line here folks! Take moonshine for instance. It was and is illegal to make it, but there is a distillery in Virginia. That makes shine legal!!! It must not be under 98 and not over 100 proof. And why they can make it? Because the government says they can as long as they keep paying the tax on it!
  16. mowsey

    mowsey TS Rookie Posts: 16

    exactly, as long as the government can make money off it they don't care, hell they let people go nuts with stuff they can tax, like alcohol when you see someone staggering down the street on a weekend screaming and shouting, then getting arrested <_<
  17. AtK SpAdE

    AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,495

    Here is an interesting read why weed is illegal, it has very little to do with taxes.

    My viewpoint on drugs are that if you can keep it in moderation, there is nothing wrong with it. If you smoke to much cigs, drink to much beer, eat to much food its all going to be bad for you.
  18. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,090

    Yeah that was rather interesting. The second paragraph I think explains really what my point was. :D
  19. zephead

    zephead TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,569

    alcohol was taxed before prohibition. prohibition was a moronic attempt to stop people from drinking in a day and age when marijuana and opium were legal and generally used.
    i agree, for "natural" drugs (cannabis, psychoactive mushrooms). good link, BTW

    most people don't realize just how much money the federal government spends on marijuana law enforcement. cannabis and hemp are naturally occurring plants that commonly grow in certain parts of the country, and the DEA spends millions of taxpayers money on finding and destroying these wild plants, which grow in remote areas and are not cultivated for human use. in my opinion, the government should use these resources fighting dangerous drugs, such as heroin and amphetamines.
  20. twite

    twite TechSpot Paladin Posts: 937

    Alcohol, yes, weed, no. Trust me, i have seen living examples.

    Exactly, they spend all this money, and get almost NOTHING done. Either way those who wish, are still going to do what they wish.
  21. AtK SpAdE

    AtK SpAdE TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,495

    As a underage college student i can tell you it is MUCH easier to get weed than it is alcohol. A guy in the dorm across the way is growing his own shrooms. If you want drugs you can get them.

    Drug control is a joke.
  22. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,273

    Drugs are for losers and Hypnosis is for Losers with Big eye brows! ;)

    Well anyways, I dont think i'd do drugs or smoke cigs or drink alcohol because it's pretty lame... I mean if I smoked weed or drank some alcohol i'll end up deleting some **** on my computer that is required to boot or something :haha:
  23. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    Thats what I thought until I was 20 TimeParadoX, well except for thinking I'd screw up my computer. Then at 20 I discovered how fun it was to drink. Although now I don't drink anymore...
  24. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,273

    Still, it's just a waste of money... $4 for a pack of cigs is alot
  25. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,443   +38

    $4? At least cigs are that heavily taxed there. Here, you can get a pack of Dunhill Fine Cut (which, according to my fellow "puffers" is the "connoiseur's choice", whatever that means) for only Dhs. 7.50, which is around $2. (considering the exchange rate of Dhs. 3.65 for $1)

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