Building a PC
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SlyMaelstrom
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Who said anything about mushkin? I think they suck, too.F1N3ST said:
As far as I'm concerned the only RAM is either Corsair or OCZ. Maybe Kingston at lower models.As for the ECS mobo... I'm sure you won't have any real problems, the only concern is that they're very lousy overclockers and that's the greatest thing about the Core 2 Duo chips. I splurged on my mobo so I could try to OC my E6600 to 3.2 or so. Wish me luck!
i would have to say go to www.newegg.com they are the best and i think that they build it for you. not sure but i think.
CrossFire851
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Update: Change the ram to 2 sticks of 512mb for dual-channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227126
and pick out a different case here
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=7
Also if you don't plan on doing any gaming then I would say get this video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814145134
it has both VGA and DVI-d outputs for your monitor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227126
and pick out a different case here
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=7
Also if you don't plan on doing any gaming then I would say get this video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814145134
it has both VGA and DVI-d outputs for your monitor.
RoknOvrclk
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I just built my first pc about 6 months ago and let me tell ya, the plugs only fit one way. it's that easy, with the help of all the wonderful people on here of course. The hardest part is sorting through the plethora of parts available, and picking exactly what you need,then finding it at the right price.
I built my entire machine from the keyboard to the monitor and everything in between for less than $700, comparable "branded" computers with comparable specs would be 1500 or so with keyboard,trackball,and monitor included. I agree with Tmagic, ecs is not good, I fried 4 power supplies before figuring out that my BRAND NEW board was a paperweight. (p4m800 I think, I try to forget). You can't go wrong with any of the Big name boards though and lot of times you can find processor/mobo combos for a substantial savings.
I built my entire machine from the keyboard to the monitor and everything in between for less than $700, comparable "branded" computers with comparable specs would be 1500 or so with keyboard,trackball,and monitor included. I agree with Tmagic, ecs is not good, I fried 4 power supplies before figuring out that my BRAND NEW board was a paperweight. (p4m800 I think, I try to forget). You can't go wrong with any of the Big name boards though and lot of times you can find processor/mobo combos for a substantial savings.
Rage_3K_Moiz
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The Antec Sonata II is an awesome case and it comes with a superb quality PSU. It will be more than enough for ur system. The glossy black finish is hard to describe. Definitely recommended.
Tmagic650
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I love Antec cases, but I just can't justify spending a lot of money on a case. I watch Newegg for specials on cases and I bought my Antec full-tower server case for $35 including power supply and shipping. I built an MSI barebones system. The case and motherboard was $65 including shipping. It went together very smoothly
I just built this computer.
https://www.techspot.com/guides/11-budget-pc-buying-guide-200608/
It was quick and easy. It runs very well and seems fast. I upgraded to the conroe processor. Seems to run very cool. I am using a 350 watt power supply. No problems with testing so far.
doug
https://www.techspot.com/guides/11-budget-pc-buying-guide-200608/
It was quick and easy. It runs very well and seems fast. I upgraded to the conroe processor. Seems to run very cool. I am using a 350 watt power supply. No problems with testing so far.
doug
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Mobo
ASRock 775Dual-VSTA Socket T
60
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
170
Sound
Diamond XtremeSound XS71DDL
55
HDD
WD Caviar SE 120GB
74
Optical
LG 16x DVD-R+/-RW
40
I'm really considering these parts for a whole new set up...
the cool feature i really like is that this mobo supports both AGP AND PCI-EX ....am i reading this wrong? too bad it wasn't SLI!or crossfire compatible!
I'm also wondering how much the price tag for video cards will drastically drop when the Dx10 cards come out
!Mobo
ASRock 775Dual-VSTA Socket T
60
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
170
Sound
Diamond XtremeSound XS71DDL
55
HDD
WD Caviar SE 120GB
74
Optical
LG 16x DVD-R+/-RW
40
I'm really considering these parts for a whole new set up...
the cool feature i really like is that this mobo supports both AGP AND PCI-EX ....am i reading this wrong? too bad it wasn't SLI!or crossfire compatible!
I'm also wondering how much the price tag for video cards will drastically drop when the Dx10 cards come out
Rage_3K_Moiz
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That mobo isn't a very good choice since a PCI-E x16 card will work at only around x4 speeds in the slot. This will severely degrade performance. Consider another one.
Rage_3K_Moiz
Posts: 5,403 +43
What processor do u have? I need to know the socket type so I can suggest one.
Tammy
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right now I am running a P4 2.8 ghz on an Asus 800 deluxe. I would like to change my board and cpu and memomory. Now I have 1 gig. and would like to go with 2. I would also like to keep my hard drives 1 seagate barracuda 250 and maxtor 60 gig. I have a liteon dvd rom and a sony dvd r/w. I want to keep all that. I would keep my board if I could get a faster processor. But it only suppoerts 3.0 g.
Rage_3K_Moiz
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Is that the P4P800 Deluxe? If so, then it supports a 3.2GHz processor with an 800MHz FSB, which is quite an improvement over ur current one. Check it out here.
Also, regarding ur wish to upgrade, ur really limited since the only better upgrade than the P4 would be the Pentium D line, which tend to get really hot. I would recommend against them but if u really want them, then try this one. It's normally difficult to find LGA775 mobos supporting DDR RAM and the Pentium D line, since most of them need DDR2.
I would recommend going with AMD's Athlon 64 Socket 939 line though. They're dirt cheap ATM and are much, much better in performance compared to any Intel processor except the Core 2 Duo line. It will be difficult to find one supporting AGP though. Check on www.tigerdirect.com and www.zipzoomfly.com for them.
Also, regarding ur wish to upgrade, ur really limited since the only better upgrade than the P4 would be the Pentium D line, which tend to get really hot. I would recommend against them but if u really want them, then try this one. It's normally difficult to find LGA775 mobos supporting DDR RAM and the Pentium D line, since most of them need DDR2.
I would recommend going with AMD's Athlon 64 Socket 939 line though. They're dirt cheap ATM and are much, much better in performance compared to any Intel processor except the Core 2 Duo line. It will be difficult to find one supporting AGP though. Check on www.tigerdirect.com and www.zipzoomfly.com for them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157097
AGP, PCI-e and socket 939. Get an Athlon 64, which are way better than P4's. here are all the 939 athlon 64's. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...39&Subcategory=&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
AGP, PCI-e and socket 939. Get an Athlon 64, which are way better than P4's. here are all the 939 athlon 64's. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...39&Subcategory=&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103622 Is a great deal, 4$ off requalr price, and it has 1mb cache.
MetalX
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Did you notice SlyMaelstrom that the cheapest Core 2 is still around $200? I am talking about a REAL budget system like an AMD 3200+. They are around $70 while the only thing intel has to offer at that price is a celeron which is about 1/3 the speed of the 3200. I won't make any big statements about the RAM because I'm a newb when it comes to RAM but let him buy what he wants. It's probably a fine brand of RAM and it's obviously not going to fry his system or anything. My whole system is (please don't get pissed at me everyone) no-name RAM and it has no problems besides the lack of dual channel because one stick is 2 sided and the other one is one sided. Anyway back to the point, you cannot simply force your opinions upon other people. You have to offer advice and let them choose what they want to choose .
If that's what you said to SlyMaelstrom, I SO agree!F1N3ST said:Umm you suck
Tammy
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I would really like to go back to Athlon processor. I like them so much better then this P4 I have now. And yes the board is a P4P 800 deluxe.
If I go up to another gig or memory will that increase performance. And get the faster processor. My memory now is dual channel. I could go with another duel channel kit if that would help.
Thanks for answering all my questions.
If I go up to another gig or memory will that increase performance. And get the faster processor. My memory now is dual channel. I could go with another duel channel kit if that would help.
Thanks for answering all my questions.
Rage_3K_Moiz
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More memory will help to load games faster, since there are less transitions invioving the hard disk and dual-channel will give it a nice boost as well. It wouldn't hurt to sell of ur current mobo+CPU and get new ones for a bit more. That mobo posted by F1N3ST looks great. I recommend pairing it with an FX-55 San Diego or, if ur capable of spending some more cash, an Opteron or for even better performance an X2 Manchester/Toledo whichever u can afford. Ur video card will still work in that mobo so no problems there. Give it a thought.
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