China will use aging chips while its semiconductor industry catches up

[gamerk2]

Actually, not so much - China is producing just under twice the amount of co2 emissions of the US, and just under 5 times the amount of pollution than the 3rd heaviest polluter, India.

They're by far the world's leading polluter. Not sure why everyone forgets this fact..

/E: Google search for proof....

World's biggest CO₂ emitters 2023 | Statista

Combined, the world’s two biggest polluters were responsible for almost 50 percent of global carbon dioxide emissions in 2021.

www.statista.com

Right, twice the emissions, despite having four times the amount of people living in it. Likewise, China has invested quite heavily in green technology.

So yes, China has a ways to go, but it's reduced it output tremendously, unlike the United States.

 

[gamerk2]

USSR collapsed because USA convinced/blackmailed Saudi Arabia into overproduction and supply of oil in the end of the 1980's that destroyed one of the biggest sources of USSR to obtain foreign currency. They literally got pennies for times bigger amounts of exported oil and this killed them shortly. Even now a major part of Russia's economy is based on exporting oil and gas to almost anywhere so it is highly dependent on the price of oil at international markets. When it goes down, they economy goes down times more...

The USSR collapsed mainly for political reasons. Yes, their economic system had *serious* issues, but at the end of the day before the August Coup the majority of the Soviet countries (all but one I believe) voted to accept the New Union Treaty and re-organize the USSR in a way that *might* have worked. But after the coup all the other countries bailed, afraid it would happen again if they didn't leave immediately.

It's also worth noting that a major reason so much of eastern Europe is moving back in that direction is because how badly they have fared under Capitalism. For most of the former Soviet republics, GDP is still less then it was under the Soviet regime.

 

[Hexic]

Right, twice the emissions, despite having four times the amount of people living in it. Likewise, China has invested quite heavily in green technology.

So yes, China has a ways to go, but it's reduced it output tremendously, unlike the United States.

China does have a significantly higher population - however their emissions have actually been increasing annually, by just shy of 1% consecutively on average, just over the course of 2015-2019.

They haven't reduced output in the slightest, they've increased it. Population variable has nothing to do with this statistic. At no point in the past 25+ years have their emissions decreased.

 

[gamerk2]

Had it not been for the pro-China policies the world had fostered, communist China would have collapse like the Soviet Union. So. What does that tell you about the globalists and their goal? The private western central bank system is pro-communism and that is just a fact. The private western central bank system starting with America's Federal Reserve needs to be eliminated before freedom can prosper.

Yeah no.

China fixed it's own economic problems post-Mao by leaving behind the planned economic system that frankly failed, and adopting Capitalistic principles with state oversight. Yes, foreign investment has certainly aided China's growth, but that's Capitalism in a nutshell.

As for the Fed, if you got rid of it, how exactly would you prevent the Dollar from IMMEDIATELY deflating in value? And don't say "go back to the gold standard"; the US doesn't control enough to keep prices under control. Case in point: The leading producer of gold is CHINA, so under such a system the price of the US dollar would be directly influenced by China. Likewise, since everything would have to be backed by gold, you'd immediately choke off economic growth.

 

[EdmondRC]

prove me wrong, but most of world pollution comes from USA.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=most+...ig=2edddacfeab242bcb6d3bfbc27646c35&mkt=en-us

 

[deckdoc]

Avoid buying china crap.

You're making me laugh.
Do a web search yourself. Look up "avoiding chinese food products nearly impossible"

You are what you eat, and you eat "china crap"... Guess what does that make you?

Also, what makes you so sure that what you're using to read this message right now doesn't contain "china crap"? How about checking it again? Hilarious.

 

[Knot Schure]

prove me wrong, but most of world pollution comes from USA.

You are proven wrong - (I work in China).

 

[Knot Schure]

So pretty much everything?
Too late.

I praise my Chinese overlords. Tiananmen Square was a hoax (it was not)

Hardly a laughing matter...

 

[Amisgohome]

Actually, not so much - China is producing just under twice the amount of co2 emissions of the US, and just under 5 times the amount of pollution than the 3rd heaviest polluter, India.

They're by far the world's leading polluter. Not sure why everyone forgets this fact..

/E: Google search for proof....

World's biggest CO₂ emitters 2023 | Statista

Combined, the world’s two biggest polluters were responsible for almost 50 percent of global carbon dioxide emissions in 2021.

www.statista.com

Considering 1.4 billion people live there the per capita pollution of the US is twice as high as China

 

[Amisgohome]

10 years,.... No I guess that will be max 5 years

 

[TempleOrion]

https://www.bing.com/search?q=most+...ig=2edddacfeab242bcb6d3bfbc27646c35&mkt=en-us

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/10296/economics/top-co2-polluters-highest-per-capita/

China 47th, USA 11th (Oct 2019).

 

[Hexic]

Considering 1.4 billion people live there the per capita pollution of the US is twice as high as China

When you consider that 40% of China's population lives in rural areas - this doesn't make the "per capita" argument entirely accurate.

If we're talking "Per Capita" only, US is #4 in the world of emissions per capita - Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, and Australia being the first three as of 2019. China is, per capita, less than half than that of the US if you throw raw population numbers at it. But external variables (I.e. urban vs. rural rates, manufacturing processes, coal dependency) make the key difference in context.

As per my original statement that they are largest producer of emissions by a long shot, as well as the fact that they're annually increasing said rate holds the same.