Computer doesn't turn on after a power outtage at my house.

By Zurro ยท 34 replies
Jun 23, 2006
  1. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    hmm.. i just thought of an idea.. have you tried to flash the bios again? as in download the latest one onto a floppy etc. and installing that over the old bios?

    Well taken that you actualy can boot up to windows i'd say most of those parts are still working so most probably fixing the motherboard aspect (or that fasttrack thing) of the pc is pretty much giving new life to it..

    what type of sound is it? beep, high pitched etc? just curious..
  2. Zurro

    Zurro TS Rookie Topic Starter

    i didnt try to install new bios cuz i dont know where to get them.

    The sound isn't a beep but its like the regular sound it makes when windows loads up but the sound is alot deeper.

    But whenever i turn on the computer it runs longer and i can open up more programs. I restarted the pc and now a message came up saying that a file is missing or corrupt, to setup windows.

    So im guessing i should use the windows xp cd to fix it.
  3. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    next time you do load into windows, use a hardware reader such as SIW to find out the model and make of your mobo, then google or go to the manufacturer's website to find the updated bios' files..
  4. HPCE_Larry

    HPCE_Larry TS Rookie Posts: 132

    Would a simple surge protector be sufficient for protecting a computer? Brown outs aren't an issue where I live, and I rarely get power outages but I want to be sure my computer doesn't get fried. I'm using an Thermaltake 700w psu.
  5. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    Personally, and strongly, i would NEVER, ever plug a pc into a wall socket via anything. I always use a UPS. There is a reason they are made and used. They are needed and they work!
    Personally, before i started using a UPS i lost hard drives, mobos, vid cards, you name it. Since then, one hard drive, and i live on the net and on my pc. I learned the hard way and i try and help people to learn the easy way, thats why i have responded here!

    As well, all my customers who have a UPS never lose any hardware. But my customers who dont have a UPS, tadda, they lose hardware, as in fried, gone, broken, kaput, etc.

    Another thing, when i started buying them, the cheapest UPS was about $400 or so. Now they can be had for well under $100. The nice thing is that often you dont have to buy the biggest and best UPS out there. You have 2 things to consider. How long a shutdown time you need, and how much wattage you need. You can find that out at any place that makes UPS's. Personally, i would go one lower than they reccommend, but thats only me. Put another way, for a standard, home, non-networked unit you can get a decent UPS for as low as $50 these days.
    But learn about them, as there are 2 types of plugs on them. One type has total protection, the other has only surge suppression. Surge suppression simply is not enough and i bet that applies to all of North America, but thats an argument i wont get into, its your choice what you want to believe.
    Do you think that the power grid that was built 100 yrs ago had pcs in mind, pcs with their very stringent needs?
    The answer is no. Part of the fix is using a UPS to clean your incoming power for you. I learned the hard way, which way do you want to learn?

    I forgot to congratulate you on the Thermaltake 700!!
    A great start to protecting your pc! A power supply is supposed to do more than just run your pc, its supposed to die to save your pc and even prevent problems. But cheap power supplies only barely run your pc and they DONT provide any or little thermal protection! So its not just, well, will this power supply run my pc. Thats why i said its a great choice, your power supply that is. Any good power supply has built-in thermal protection. But dont think you dont still need a UPS, you do, in my opinion, we all do.
  6. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,002   +15

    you're right. surge supression is not enough. I lost a computer on a surge protected strip during a storm. I now have a double surge protected system and an UPS.
  7. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    Tedster, thanks for replying and being honest. If more people would post their experiences like this then maybe others would heed the advice given.
    I already said it, but i lost similar equipment twice before i got wise. I was new and figured a UPS was an extra that i didnt need. And i also figured that motherboard, hard drive, and video card just failed, duh on me.

    Its NEVER an extra. If fact, if there were a law that all pc sales must include a UPS i would be all for it. Of course, thats not likely to happen.

    Simply stated, never plug a pc into a wall socket, always have a UPS in between. That is, unless you dont care if you lose your pc or most of its parts.

    It just cant be stressed enough!

    Funny, though, since i started using a UPS i have lost one hard drive and i always have at least 3 systems on the go, one system 24 hrs a day. Maybe its the UPS.
  8. dgard821

    dgard821 TS Rookie

    I know this is an old discussion, but a good one - A UPS is invaluable, but want to remind that alot of home users don't realize that a phone line left plugged into the pc when there is a danger of a lightening surge can do quite a bit of damage to MOBO as well - Still a big problem in rural areas that rely heavily on dial-up internet.
  9. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,188   +470

    There are surge protectors for telephone lines as well. Some are built into regular electrical surge protectors.
  10. AlbertLionheart

    AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,026

    Drastic Measures!

    First, read all this through so you understand what I am suggesting. The idea is to try and find out if there are any other fried components - power surges can come down phone lines as well as mains supply.
    Take the whole thing to pieces so that you have the motherboard outside the chassis with nothing connected to it other than the CPU and the cooling fan. No RAM, no cards but connect the speaker if not on-board.
    Connect the PSU and power up by shorting the power button jumper. You should get multiple beeps, perhaps 2 short and 1 long depending on the make of the motherboard. Beeps are good. No beeps indicates a bad board so stop here. Power off.
    If you get beeps, fit the RAM, you should get 1 beep. This is good but not conclusive if you have on board VGA. Power off.
    Connect the monitor to the on board VGA and reboot - 1 beep and something on the monitor is good. Power off.
    Connect the graphics card (prop the m/board underneath) and reboot - 1 beep and something on the monitor is good. Power off
    Now take it all apart and refit the m/board to the chassis
    Repeat the the same process as above, hopefully without a change in what you find.
    Reconnect all other items of hardware one at a time, rebooting as you go after each piece.
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