Crowdfunded Star Citizen raises over $148 million, but release date has been postponed...

[davislane1]

And what did Derek Smart ever accomplish?

In game dev? More than everyone in this thread combined.

 

[JoeBlobers]

I'm familiar with Smart's history. When Star Citizen finally implodes or is severely pruned, he's going to go from being "incompetent" to "powerful Internet sith lord who single handedly destroyed Star Citizen out of jealousy."

As I've said in every thread about this game, I'd love to see it succeed as advertised. I don't believe it will because there are too many correlating indicators betraying a fundamentally unsound project. If, by some feat of tenacity, Chris Roberts and crew manage to Tom Brady this Frankenstein and turn sliding deadlines and scope creep into an overtime win, I'll happily fork over about $1,000 for the game and top of the line hardware upgrades to experience it in all of its glory. As of now, however, Star Citizen is little more than hope and about $148,000,000 in change.

Nice story man... but DS has always and I mean always failed to everything he attempted in 2 decades... including trying to destroy CR his intimate ennemy. SQ42 is coming in the next 12 months, this is fact.

 

[davislane1]

Nice story man... but DS has always and I mean always failed to everything he attempted in 2 decades... including trying to destroy CR his intimate ennemy. SQ42 is coming in the next 12 months, this is fact.

Time will tell. My money is placed on the one bet that has paid off handsomely over the past several years: Soon(TM)

 

[Puiu]

But they are focusing and Squadron 42 is out pretty soon. They have work to show for everything else.

it should have been out a long time ago and it's just a small part of the game (it won't even be feature complete when they release it - you'll just be testing an early build). don't be happy that they are giving you breadcrumbs.

 

[davislane1]

it should have been out a long time ago and it's just a small part of the game (it won't even be feature complete when they release it - you'll just be testing an early build). don't be happy that they are giving you breadcrumbs.

The only thing more sacred to a Citizen than a breadcrumb from CIG is a blessing from Christ, which is a heresy since most of them don't recognize the Christian god.

 

[Misagt]

Here is the one interesting thing about this game it's polarizing. People are passionate on both sides. Personally I hope Star Citizen is a success and I'll buy it when it's released or perhaps once it's in Beta. At this point I'll just sit back and enjoy other games for now.

As for the raging people who seem more pissed off then those people who put money into it. Just chill out, raging because you think your right is really pointless. The fact is people who like the game won't listen to you and people who didn't buy it don't care. If you want to gloat wait til the game has failed then your right. Until then your just an *** who thinks they know more then other folks.

Enjoy the ride and hope for the best!

 

[captaincranky]

...[ ]...As for the raging people who seem more pissed off then those people who put money into it. Just chill out, raging because you think your right is really pointless. The fact is people who like the game won't listen to you and people who didn't buy it don't care. If you want to gloat wait til the game has failed then your right. Until then your just an *** who thinks they know more then other folks.

Enjoy the ride and hope for the best!

Well, here's the thing, "Star Citizen", is already a rousing success........ well um, for Chris Roberts anyway. As for the hangers on, supporters, suckers, or however someone chooses to categorize them, IMHO, they have their cyber-heads so far up their cyber-a**es, it doesn't really matter what eventually happens.

Mr. Roberts is using a very similar, if not identical scam, to the ones always being perpetuated by Elon Musk. First Musk will run his mouth about starting a business, which has little to no chance of coming to fruition perhaps not even during his lifetime. Then, he starts passing the hat around. The more fools he ropes in, the more it emboldens him to ask for more money. In the everyday vernacular of grifters, this is known as, "the long con".

You hang in there though, I'm sure "Star Citizen" will be coming to a planet near you......er.....eventually.

 

[LordElfa]

"For a pledge of 45 Dollars you gain access to the Alpha" How much do you have to pledge to reach Operating Thetan Level 8?

 

[davislane1]

Well, here's the thing, "Star Citizen", is already a rousing success........ well um, for Chris Roberts anyway. As for the hangers on, supporters, suckers, or however someone chooses to categorize them, IMHO, they have their cyber-heads so far up their cyber-a**es, it doesn't really matter what eventually happens.

Mr. Roberts is using a very similar, if not identical scam, to the ones always being perpetuated by Elon Musk. First Musk will run his mouth about starting a business, which has little to no chance of coming to fruition perhaps not even during his lifetime. Then, he starts passing the hat around. The more fools he ropes in, the more it emboldens him to ask for more money. In the everyday vernacular of grifters, this is known as, "the long con".

You hang in there though, I'm sure "Star Citizen" will be coming to a planet near you......er.....eventually.

 

[captaincranky]

"For a pledge of 45 Dollars you gain access to the Alpha" How much do you have to pledge to reach Operating Thetan Level 8?

Most likely your first born...!

 

[oranuro]

I'm easily turned off buy authors and websites that post clickbait. Please don't do this in the future Cal J.

 

[captaincranky]

I'm easily turned off buy authors and websites that post clickbait. Please don't do this in the future Cal J.

And you imagine the fact that you're "turned off", is supposed to matter exactly why?

Maybe you should see someone who can help you with those paranoid delusions of grandeur you're suffering, and take the time for some serious introspection, about why a member with 42 posts thinks he can dictate the direction of the site.

Speaking strictly for my own actions, I won't post to a thread where, I'm not interested in the topic or I don't know anything about the topic. Posting to a thread simply to complain about it, strikes me as desperate cry for attention.

The interesting thing with this thread, is someone collected close to $150,000,000.00 and his investors still have nothing to show for it. How you imagine that's "clickbait.", strikes me as irrational by any definition of standard.

Better yet, throw a tantrum and tell us "you're going to quit if things don't change.". I really enjoy trolling that type of post. (y) Keep up the "good" work.

Unless of course you were joking. In which case, I still meant every word I've posted, along with the fact you're not even close to being funny.

 

[thedrelle]

The game does NOT have a working alpha!

Um, then what was I playing on that free play week? digitally-induced delusions?

It may not be an alpha specifically, but even a pre-alpha is a indication that the game is not exactly vaporware.

They have SOMETHING to show for their effort, so your "they do not have an alpha" counter does not prove that they have nothing to show for the money given to them.

 

[captaincranky]

Um, then what was I playing on that free play week? digitally-induced delusions?

Those things are real, at least I'm pretty sure they are, or maybe not, or then again I don't remember

It may not be an alpha specifically, but even a pre-alpha is a indication that the game is not exactly vaporware.

So are you suggesting that, "not exactly vaporware", is all that could, or should, be expected at the $150.000.000.investment mark? Chris Roberts must have quite the personality, look how many he's stolen, leaving interplanetary hungry zombies in his wake.

They have SOMETHING to show for their effort, so your "they do not have an alpha" counter does not prove that they have nothing to show for the money given to them.

Oooo, "SOMETHING", (note the bold). Oh well, who knows, maybe the floppy disc will make a comeback and you can download your copy of the game, 144 MB at a time, for every additional million dollars raised.

Well anyway, here is, (ostensibly), a list (possibly incomplete), of the most expensive video games ever produced. (At least according to Wiki): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop Please do take note that "Star Citizen", is 2nd or 3rd on the list. But you know what, those games are all complete, and on the street.

And please remember two important things: 1: It's always noble to root for the underdog. 2: "A fool and his money are soon parted company". Now all you have to do, is establish your priorities.

 

[JoeBlobers]

We backers have seen prophecies of Doom (with even very precise dates...) every single year since a certain incompetent indie developer declared war against his intimate ennemy Chris Roberts. A two decades hater campaign focusing to try to hurt CR through SC Community. He failed as usual

We got so much lies and attempt to offuscate readers I even made a blog about it, listing all lies and obfuscation. All 100% proven false!

As usual, we got the basics lies: stolen cash, incompetent or new one... the floppy joke to say Chris Roberts is an hold man... this is so funny oh man... Anyway. All those "divulgation" are bullshit at large...

The team count increase by 40 more in the last 6 months... and not because some are leaving (normal turnover in industry is around 5 to 7%)

For Readers interested in numbers that explain from where SC is coming from just have a look below. To summarize, everything is fine. Squadron 42 Chapter 1 will get a schedule release later this year (release expected mid-2018 so 5 years and half a year for a AAA starting from scratch... not bad) and Star Citizen (MMO) is receiving huge patch (full moon with seemless landing and walking... in 4 K if you Graphic Card can handle it) by July this year and of course much more following.

New backers are coming by thousands every month bringing on average 2 M$ of new pledges...CIG was supposed to collapse in 2015 according to a well informed clown

In short. Great project, with a great team, fully under control with +500.000 backers and growing every single day.

– Employees count:
Nov. 2012 end of Kickstarter: Chris Roberts and around 10 people
2013: 48 (Austin: 34 – LA: 14)
2014: 161 (Austin: 55 – LA: 38 – Manchester: 68)
2015: 258 (Austin: 57 – LA: 41 – Manchester: 132 – Frankfurt: 28)
2016: 363 (Austin: 54 – LA: 64 – Manchester: 191 – Frankfurt: 54)
2017: 428 (April)

– Pledges chart:
2012 end of Kickstarter on Nov.: goal was 2M$. They got 6M$…
2012: 7M$
2013: 35M$
2014: 68M$
2015: 104M$
2016: 140M$
2017: 148M$ (April)

– Citizens count (not the Backers count which is estimated to +500.000 individual)
2012: 103.000
2013: 340.000
2014: 705.000
2015: 1.150.000
2016: 1.700.000
2017: 1.796.000 (April)

 

[thedrelle]

So are you suggesting that, "not exactly vaporware", is all that could, or should, be expected at the $150.000.000.investment mark? Chris Roberts must have quite the personality, look how many he's stolen, leaving interplanetary hungry zombies in his wake.

Chris Roberts has not disappeared, he has not stopped working on the game, nor has "robbed" $150 million from his investors. The game is being made as we speak, and as long as there are no obvious signs of failure, I'm not going to be the Pessimistic Fearmonger you enjoy being (I mean c'mon, CaptainCranky?") . I'm also not going to go out of my way to construct falsehoods just to justify what I can only assume is jealousy over Chris Robert's level of success.
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Oooo, "SOMETHING", (note the bold). Oh well, who knows, maybe the floppy disc will make a comeback and you can download your copy of the game, 144 MB at a time, for every additional million dollars raised.

where do you get this nonsense? Is this really something you believe, or are you trolling me?

Well anyway, here is, (ostensibly), a list (possibly incomplete), of the most expensive video games ever produced. (At least according to Wiki): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop Please do take note that "Star Citizen", is 2nd or 3rd on the list. But you know what, those games are all complete, and on the street.

Ok, great, the game is expensive. what's your point? that's why they crowd-funded it in the first place.

As I mentioned before, I have not put a dollar down on this game, I will be happy to when It's closer to completion (I'm not completely foolish) and when I have some spare cash. I'm not saying this game will be a success, I'm saying your just as foolish to go fully against it without any real evidence of foul play.

 

[captaincranky]

....[ ]...where do you get this nonsense? Is this really something you believe, or are you trolling me?

This is why I enjoy the internet so much. If someone has a different outlook from a poster, that person is "trolling" the aforementioned poster. The underlying context coming out of the OP is, "you only think you know it all, I actually do".

Ok, great, the game is expensive. what's your point? that's why they crowd-funded it in the first place.

Well, even someone as ancient as myself has grown up in the era of big business. Which means if you want a new car, you can saunter on down to the dealer of your choice, sign on the dotted line, then drive it away. This is opposed to listening to someone like Elon musk's perpetual line of bullsh!t, which amounts to nothing more than, "give me money for a new Tesla today, which I will gladly supply a few years hence". (Parenthetically, "if all goes well").

As I mentioned before, I have not put a dollar down on this game, I will be happy to when It's closer to completion (I'm not completely foolish) and when I have some spare cash. I'm not saying this game will be a success, I'm saying your just as foolish to go fully against it without any real evidence of foul play.

Well, as far as I"m concerned, Musk and Roberts seen to be cut from the same cloth. Musk has made his billions running his mouth, as opposed to delivering actual product.

This game seems to be on the same path. Every time it nears "completion", it needs more time and more of someone else's money.

And since you, "haven't put any of your own money down on this game", if if does fail, you should take part ownership of the responsibility for the failure, along with me asking you, "are you trolling me because you don't like my opinion". There still is such a thing as "The First Amendment". Unless of course you're not from here, here being the USA. So, although I didn't actually predict failure, it would seem that Mr. Roberts is benefiting from a "get rich before you build your invention, and never do today that which you can put off until tomorrow", business model.

In any case, "millenials" seen to be more at risk for scams than even old people, as borne out by this story: https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/the-ftc-cracks-down-on-tech-support-scammers.235256/

Notice too that I spelled the verb contraction "you're correctly", instead of "your".

 

[thedrelle]

I salute you!

out of context replies, nonsense piled on top of nonsense, and you even managed a bit of Grammar Nazi at teh end.

You are a true master!

 

[captaincranky]

I salute you!

out of context replies, nonsense piled on top of nonsense, and you even managed a bit of Grammar Nazi at teh end.

You are a true master!

Why thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! (y)

Try and keep in mind though, one person's analogy, may, for the sake of another person's convenience, be "off topic".

 

[Malibutomi]

I really like when people bring up the " they only have an alpha / they have nothing to show" flags.
They have things to show week by week more and more. With 3.0 the game will grow bigtime.
Also it's stupid to bring this up at all, you can argue about that when it's released. I don't think any game had much to show at alpha state at about 2/3 of their dev times.

 

[captaincranky]

I really like when people bring up the " they only have an alpha / they have nothing to show" flags.
They have things to show week by week more and more. With 3.0 the game will grow bigtime.
Also it's stupid to bring this up at all, you can argue about that when it's released. I don't think any game had much to show at alpha state at about 2/3 of their dev times.

The "only an alpha release", is not the only concern, nor the most serious, as far as I'm concerned.

It's this:

"labourer is worthy of his hire, the. labourer is worthy of his hire, the someone should be properly recompensed for effort. The saying, first used by Chaucer, is recorded from the late 14th century, and is originally of biblical origin (Luke 10:7").

There isn't enough information in the article to fully illuminate the extent of the purchases in the way of, "cars and houses", made from game development funds.

I would want to know how much Roberts paid for said houses and cars. Also, if they were bought for cash. Crowd funding and donations are rife with the possibility for abuse. Knowing whether Roberts paid $400,00 for a home he financed, or a $1,000,000 for a home in cash, would, and should, make a great deal of different in the perception we have of him, and conclusions we draw about him.

 

[JoeBlobers]

The "only an alpha release", is not the only concern, nor the most serious, as far as I'm concerned.

I would want to know how much Roberts paid for said houses and cars. Also, if they were bought for cash. Crowd funding and donations are rife with the possibility for abuse. Knowing whether Roberts paid $400,00 for a home he financed, or a $1,000,000 for a home in cash, would, and should, make a great deal of different in the perception we have of him, and conclusions we draw about him.

Do not ask why company Finance are mostly never provided unless they are on share market..... so much "expert" on internet your conclusion to draw a line based on what CR pay in cash or credit clearly his a mark of total uneducated understanding and very little capacity to draw lines...

 

[captaincranky]

Do not ask why company Finance are mostly never provided unless they are on share market..... so much "expert" on internet your conclusion to draw a line based on what CR pay in cash or credit clearly his a mark of total uneducated understanding and very little capacity to draw lines...

The only thing that's clear from your reply, is that English is likely your 4th language, or you dropped out of 4th grade.

It's called "follow the money", and it's how the police catch people embezzling, along with other sundry financial crimes.

Does the guy put the money from the game into the game, or into his pocket? Anybody with any common sense should be asking that question.