Driverless cars to have a tremendous impact on our cities

By Shawn Knight · 43 replies
Jul 8, 2013
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  1. Many experts believe self-driving cars will become the norm within the next decade. It’s not as far-fetched as it might seem when you consider Google is already testing driverless cars on the roadways of California. Such vehicles will no doubt...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,724   +3,697

    When everyone else has one, I will consider buying. Until then I will maintain my skepticism. After all, I don't want to be the guinea pig in this futuristic innovation.
  3. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,736   +3,757

    I must be a minority among my peers (20-25yr olds), because I find the lifelessness of most modern vehicles and an "always connected" culture to be the furthest thing from appealing. The prospect of a vehicle that further cements those things is just depressing.
  4. yukka

    yukka TechSpot Paladin Posts: 861   +67

    So will we have to have driverless cars or can we choose to drive one. And will a driverless car know I'm actually looking for a space and fget out of the £&@&ing way?
  5. 'Extension to the home...' I don't think so!
    The real revolution happens when we no longer need to own cars or take taxis, trains or busses. When you tell an app where you want to be picked up, and where you want to go and for arrival at what time.

    No need to park. No need to buy. No need to maintain. No need to insure. And no need to waste time sitting behind the wheel anymore than needful. That'll be a really big revolution.
    The only thing better would be the Star Trek transporter
  6. SirGCal

    SirGCal TS Maniac Posts: 365   +136

    Guess I'm weird. Being disabled, and seeing all of the @#$%&*^%$ out there with a hangnail that get a parking permit and/or illegally use someone elses placard. This way at least I wouldn't have to deal with it. Take me to the door, let me and my wheelchair out, go do your 'car' thing. Plus I could get stupid when I'm out and not have to worry about finding a ride home. Drinking & driving should be punishable by death IMHO. No joke... I will never do it and because of that I don't imbibe when I'm out. This would solve that problem very nicely.

    Personally, I'm all for it. But only when they are 100% auto. I don't want to be responsible for when it messes up, etc. It's all on the car. Not "well you were behind the wheel, or the only one in the car, so it's your fault". None of that crap...
  7. General Sam

    General Sam TS Enthusiast Posts: 62   +13

    This is really revolutionary, imagine an 18 wheel hauler which never gets tired and can transport goods all day and night! They would always be on time too (except for traffic/road works).

    It's a big prospect for hauling companies.

    What if people keep walking in front of this car though? Obviously it will stop, or if its obeying the law, will it obey it's right of way and knock the poor granny right off her zimmer frame because the lights turned red as she was crossing?
  8. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,352   +293

    Self driving cars may become fairly common within a decade, but they certainly won't be the norm on the roads. Unless, of course, somebody is going to make cars incredibly inexpensive and/or foot the bill for retrofitting or replacing the 200+ million cars on the roads today... Or are they just supposed to suddenly become obsolete, and everyone forced to somehow afford to buy a brand new car? It's going to be a much harder and more involved changeover than most of the techie dreamers realize.

    On the plus side, I think ride sharing and other ingenious methods of reducing the number of cars on the roads might see a boost. And smart self-driving cars should be able to mitigate much of the rush-hour gridlock we suffer through today. Also, wouldn't the cost of car insurance plummet if the cars are all state-of-the-art and driving is automated? Although, then accidents would be the fault of the manufacturers or coders, not the drivers, right? Anybody else think those big auto manufacturers are going to be racing forward to take on that liability?
  9. SirGCal

    SirGCal TS Maniac Posts: 365   +136

    TBH, I'm for running her over for not following her rules and using a crosswalk. People just let rules go willy-nilly till it suits them... So many have no clue it's illegal to change lanes in an intersection... They turn left and go to the far right lane in the process without signaling, etc after the turn... Just 'poof', they're there... Sad...
  10. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Do you even drift bro???

    On another note: automatic cars won't work until the entire environment is automatic. Outside unaccounted-for occurrences ( e.g. a bird) are no easy task to navigate with AI.
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,724   +3,697

    Warning, this day is coming!!
    Driverless Tesla Cars spending 24 hours a day, watching for people texting/talking and driving. All made possible by people paying insurance, making the highways a safer place to be.
  12. Check and see how much of America's GNP is insurance (auto and health). Also, the size of the auto body repair industry (multiple billions). Oh, and how many cities rely on parking tickets (indirect taxes) to keep politicians well-fed!

    It's a big ripple...
  13. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,736   +3,757

    I was going to bring this up, but "lost revenue" from automated vehicles is an excellent platform from which to launch a far more lucrative milage tax.
  14. I heard that in America when people started driving more economic cars such as the Toyota Prius, for the obvious reasons of a cleaner footprint and saving money, the American Government, in their infinite wisdom, felt that if these new age hippy types were going to not buy fuel, and thus not pay enough tax as with their previous weekly fuel bills, then they would have to undergo some kind of extra tax to make up for it.

    Which should be frankly illegal for them to do, as it comes under the who the f--- do you think you list of all douchey rules set by those in power.

    Anyways I love the fact that this as pointed would be a collosal lost of money in some respects, so, what super tax will have to come into place ? And in the article it mentions how roads can be narrower and more space can be used for businesses. Wow, how moronic. Seriously if that happens which it probably would, seeing as the human race is moronic. So you design something thats going to lose a lot of money, meaning a loss of revenue, businesses will probably go under taxes will increase to pay for all the extra doll benefits not to mention the huge hike in governmental wages for they have just introduced a huge cleaner smarter traffic system into the world so they deserve this futuristic pay increase to go with their new future. Well who is going to pay that ? At best you will want to use the extra space for homes and housing for all the refugees your government will let in, the more people they let in the more taxes come in right ? Well no the refugees cant find work you just shut down plenty of income areas in the job market so more taxes to pay for the refugees hands outs on top. So rich and poor classes get further apart and then a civil war breaks out as things need to change.

    Good luck tho with this idea, all the best
  15. What about people who like driving and cars?
  16. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,473   +126

    So post to be driving FCV by 2030 and at this rate what going to happen self-drive option in the next gen of vehicles or more of the same with current Gas Engines. We have NGV some 100% Electric roaming around not a lot of but some and the rest are Blue Drive by Hyundai (aka Hybrid Gas/Electric motor).

    Where is the Power by Fusion System so we can throw anything waste by-product into to power the vehicle.
  17. Timonius

    Timonius TS Evangelist Posts: 647   +58

    Bring out the pedestrian insurance. Seriously, I am concerned about the law-abiding pedestrians who will get 'nicked', run-over, or killed.
  18. In the next decade? The next 10 years. Not the next century. What are you talking about. Why am I even reading this?
  19. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    I'd rather have a surrogate (like the movie) and never leave home.
  20. spencer

    spencer TS Addict Posts: 202   +22

    Government controlled transportation....Orwellian??? Michael Hastings was murdered by his car...he said he had a newsbreaking story and said he was being followed next thing you know he "crashed" as if it was normal for the entire engine to fly 100 feet from the crash.
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  21. Clearly the perfect place for a large scale pilot program would be: New Jersey. The whole state. Then expand it to completely replace Jersey drivers in other nearby states.

    Finally, for the most successful implementation nationwide possible, let Google cars replace all women drivers. These two steps will remove 90% of all traffic accidents, parking lot collisions, hit and runs and fender benders.

    (ducks for cover)

  22. Sunny87

    Sunny87 TS Enthusiast Posts: 115   +11

    Very good point, but you do realise getting drunk and operating a wheelchair is also illegal and classed as a type of drink driving, same thing with a bike you cannot operate a bicycle while drunk it's illegal.

    I can't see how they think it's going to improve the environment, 95% of electricity comes from burning oil, burying expired plutonium underground, drilling for gas act, so renewable energy will also need to take a leap into the 90% range in the next 5 years to make any impact on the environment changes and see this claim of self driving cars hit any environment fruition , and I can't see that happening as too many people make too much money out of selling fuel to you, we could be using the hydrogen powered car today without it costing too much as the technology is there we have proved that, but it get's put to the side as too many oil sellers pay off big car companies to not develop a car thats hydrogen powered.

    Insurance companies will have to be disbanded by the government and be paid for by the government by use of road tax(finally road tax will have a use) for the self driving car to hit off, as too many crook insurance companies won't update their policies for self driving cars but will pretend to insure you anyway until you crash a self drive car.
  23. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,335   +843

    There is not glamour when you are not driving a car. Same with automatic transmission.
  24. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    Those people in my experience usually think they are great driver & untouchable.
  25. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    I could get so used to this so quickly. I hate driving because of other ill mannered pigs of a drivers who think they own the road that makes driving a miserable chore. If they show so little respect for other road users what respect do they have for themselves? The worlds a better place without them.
  26. ETF Soldier

    ETF Soldier TS Evangelist Posts: 463   +136

    I wonder if this will change laws on sight requirements for driving, I'm albino and I'm not allowed t D=

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