EA laces C&C4 with Ubisoft-like always-on DRM

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DRM equals pass! everyone boycott!! if its got always on DRM boycott the game! use your money to show them whos boss. only buy games it does not have DRM. or only needs to quick check to see if its legal.
 

JMMD

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I'm sure more developers/publishers will try this but ultimately it will be proven to be a failure both in sales and in stopping people from pirating the games. The sad part is that if games with DRM like this do poorly in sales the companies will just blame piracy.
 

slh28

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Didn't EA learn anything from Ubisoft or Spore? I feel sorry for fans of the series...
 
And this is why I will not be purchasing this, constant internet connectivity? Are you joking? What about all the people in the Military deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan? Guess we won't be playing this.
 

compdata

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If you don't like the DRM, then just don't by the game. It isn't the end of the world if you don't get to play a game. There are always plenty more out there that are available. And worst case you can go back and play some classics :)
 

Vrmithrax

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So, once again a big publisher takes a huge title and completely screws it up with DRM, costs itself potential customers who won't (or can't) deal with their chosen restriction, and the only ones who win are the pirates who won't care and wouldn't have bought the stupid thing anyhow.

Huzzah, EA... Way to go!
 

Burty117

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TomSEA said:
Sign of the times folks. I'm not a proponent of this level of DRM. But on the other hand, considering the insane, and I mean INSANE amount of PC game theft going on, it's hard to fault publishers for going to this extreme..

For those who steal - don't do it. It's killing PC gaming. And tell your friends who do it too to knock it the hell off.

It can't get more simple than this. You don't steal, we don't get DRM.

I to a point agree but do you not see that they are actually making the situation using this kind of extreme DRM is actually making the whole situation worse?!

Its true, if everyone stopped stealing the games then it would go away but that will never happen so DRM will still be around but do you not see that going to an extreme like this has caused for more people not to buy the game and has actually stopped people without an internet connection completely simply can't play the game even if they wanted to??

I miss the old days of just having a CD key to play the game on an old laptop (Red Alert 2 ruled!) instead, i now have to get a 3G wireless dongle which might lose signal anyway and lose my game even when the part of game i'm playing. So i then get a bill for using the dongle just to simply play a part of the single player on the way to wales or on the boat to france.

This Type of DRM is not just extreme, its stupid.
 

Eddo22

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"For those who steal - don't do it. It's killing PC gaming."

I don't think that's totally true. I'd say that consoles were killing pc gaming. Everyone needs to ditch consoles and get a PC. I can pretty much guarantee that would result in lower prices for PC parts and probably games too...and people wouldn't be stuck with the same stone age machine for 4-5 years like they are with modern console machines.
 

Burty117

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Eddo22 said:
"For those who steal - don't do it. It's killing PC gaming."

I don't think that's totally true. I'd say that consoles were killing pc gaming. Everyone needs to ditch consoles and get a PC. I can pretty much guarantee that would result in lower prices for PC parts and probably games too...and people wouldn't be stuck with the same stone age machine for 4-5 years like they are with modern console machines.

I Like this guy! I've been saying that since the "Nexy Gen" consoles have been out. The more console sold the lower PC gaming seems to go.

It doesn't help a lot are lied to for example a lot of "Guest" users on this website pop in to say on the related articles that the ps3 "is the best".

But yet rarely do console games actually run at the full resolution stated and just generally playing with a controller is down right bad. So bad infact all FPS shooters use an "auto-aim" to help the fact that at the end of the day, when playing on a console your not really using any real skill.
 

sagejay

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"If your connection drops for any reason, you will be kicked from the game -- even in single player -- and the game won't attempt to reconnect, so your session is totally lost."
This is ridiculous, if I have a bad internet or if I go somewhere that doesn't have internet, I get kicked out of the game even though I bought the game legit?
 

Docnoq

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TomSEA said:
Sign of the times folks. I'm not a proponent of this level of DRM. But on the other hand, considering the insane, and I mean INSANE amount of PC game theft going on, it's hard to fault publishers for going to this extreme..

For those who steal - don't do it. It's killing PC gaming. And tell your friends who do it too to knock it the hell off.

It can't get more simple than this. You don't steal, we don't get DRM.

I don't think it is that simple, Tom. Even if everyone on the planet stopped pirating, I believe companies would still put DRM on their games 'just in case'. You have to also take into account that other countries are not as strict about copyright laws as the U.S. and do not care to enforce them, so attempting to make everyone stop pirating is a bit of a stretch. Add that to the fact that the only way to obtain certain games in some countries is through pirating since they are banned and you are pretty much guaranteed to have pirating.

As far as this game, I purchased the last C&C but I never finished playing it. I got bored with the hour long missions with little variability. I guess I won't be buying this one either especially with that type of DRM and my unstable internet. I would rather not spend 45 minutes building up my army to have it instantly vanish because my net spiked. Pass.
 
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Guess I won't be buying many more games if this keeps up. I deploy in the military a lot and have no internet. Oh well. Guess they don't want my money.
 

FrostBolt

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The most popular and best selling game on the PC (World of Warcraft) requires an always-on connection. I think that if the game is good enough, people will accept it. It is an annoyance because the Internet goes out sometimes, servers crash, and you don't really own the game. Instead, you pay to access it until they decide to shut down the server. Once they release Command and Conquer 5, they can stop supporting this one and you have to upgrade or find a new hobby. You don't own it they way you use to. You get less and pay the same, so it's kind of equivalent to a price increase. However, if the game is worth the money, people will still pay to play.
 
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I definitely pick one up this summer when assembling my new computer.

On a side issue, I wouldn't underestimate the skills of certain video gamers that play at an elite level compared to others on their consoles. The US military is aware of what they do online and actively recruits them to into various roles.
 
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My apologies. The part 'I definitely pick one up this summer when assembling my new computer.' was supposed to be posted on a different article.
 

Vrmithrax

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frostbolt said:
The most popular and best selling game on the PC (World of Warcraft) requires an always-on connection. I think that if the game is good enough, people will accept it.

Good point, but completely irrelevant. If people want to play a game that needs an internet connection, they can go play WoW. This game is not WoW. Not in the same genre. Not the same game mechanics. There is absolutely nothing about this game that deserves comparison to WoW, yet people keep using that as some kind of justification, which is completely off the mark.

The big issue is that this is not an MMO we are talking about here, it is a game with SINGLE PLAYER modes, yet requires constant connection to the internet to... well, to just play by yourself. That is what people are upset about. Those with slow or metered connections avoid internet-connected games. Those who travel and like to play on the road can't rely on constant net connections. This ridiculously short-sighted DRM robs many people like that, who would actually like to play the game, of the chance. It's honestly one of the stupidest moves I've seen in a long time to attempt to fight piracy. All it does is annoy and limit honest customers. Period.
 

drasho

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i hope this is not the new way to go for hte gaming industry... This just mean that ppl will stop buying game and everybody will download/crack it... This is the type of thing that would push the ppl that knows how to crack their game but decide to pay the game into the downloader side...
 

PanicX

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TomSEA said:
Sign of the times folks. I'm not a proponent of this level of DRM.
You might have more sanity than I credited you for.

TomSEA said:
But on the other hand, considering the insane, and I mean INSANE amount of PC game theft going on, it's hard to fault publishers for going to this extreme..
Uh oh, maybe I spoke too soon.

TomSEA said:
For those who steal - don't do it. It's killing PC gaming. And tell your friends who do it too to knock it the hell off.

Wow... completely off the deep end here. How can you honestly say that "piracy" is killing PC gaming when the most pirated game of 2009 also grosses over $1 billion? If you think making incredible profits regardless of theft will deter game publishers, then you need your head examined.
TomSEA said:
It can't get more simple than this. You don't steal, we don't get DRM.
In what light can you possibly believe this statement or even assume its a possibility? There is NO chance that the "piracy problem" will stop. DRM is not a solution for any current problem, ergo, removing a current problem doesn't equate to the removal of DRM. Please show 1 example where DRM has actually helped any where or a game where piracy was the sole cause of its demise.
 

Deathstar17

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TomSEA said:
Sign of the times folks. I'm not a proponent of this level of DRM. But on the other hand, considering the insane, and I mean INSANE amount of PC game theft going on, it's hard to fault publishers for going to this extreme..

For those who steal - don't do it. It's killing PC gaming. And tell your friends who do it too to knock it the hell off.

It can't get more simple than this. You don't steal, we don't get DRM.
More like, you get DRM regardless and the pirates get the cracked version without it. This will get cracked like everything else and the status quo will remain.
 
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If you can't afford the Internet, you shouldn't be buying the game Mr. Cracker.
 

Puiu

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They are hoping that it will become a multiplayer hit so in which you already need to have a constant internet connection.
BTW wouldn't it be easier to do something similar to steam? They should have the money and man power to do that.
 
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