EA won't be bringing its high-end sports engine to the PC

By Shawn Knight · 47 replies
Jun 20, 2013
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  1. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Brace yourselves. Expect this as an excuse from every developer, on why every game doesn't use DX11 and doesn't look damn fantastic.

    Oh, I knew there was a reason you haven't posted your specs in a while! You were upgrading!

  2. Is it just me, or wouldn't EA have been better served by saying, "we just don't see the demand in the PC market," instead of insulting PC gamers' rigs? I mean enthusiasts spend serious money on their rigs, far more than console gamers, so to basically call what we're running a POS next to a console is ignorant at best and deliberately insulting at worst.
  3. Darkshadoe

    Darkshadoe TS Guru Posts: 571   +113

    This is the reason. All this talk about their engine not running on a PC is Bull$hit. They used a PC to program it. With EA ,it is lie after lie with them.
  4. I could agree with EA decision with this.They never said the engine couldnt run on the pc. Just most pc's are not capable of running it. I can agree with this. Like the top 1% of the pc croud that can is actually gonna buy this game thats gonna be a profit for EA. No way.

    I think once these new consoles are released and games start flowing in its gonna make the average pc more obsolete than it already is. I could see this reason used by other companies in the future. "Pc not getting a game average pc to slow" . Better start planning to upgrade.
  5. Ean Mogg

    Ean Mogg TS Enthusiast Posts: 38   +16

    PCs are scalable ,, duh up,, and down to the new console level , I always read the side of the box for min and max but I always seem to be above max .. Does that mean I can't run FIFA till it gets to my level of computing,, lol any I don't know any PC gamer that would buy a game they couldn't run.
  6. Pc's are scalable yah. But what happens when the bar is raised once the new consoles are released. Will there be so much scaling in these new games that a old "average" gaming pc compared to the new consoles that the game will be playable and look as good or better. I doubt it. Pc gaming is all about making the game scale above the console...the "bar higher" not lower.
  7. I wouldn't completely agree, but at the same time, don't be surprised if some games designed for next gen consoles run slower on your high-end $3,000 gaming machine, despite it having significantly more theoretical horsepower.

    There are several reasons for this. Both of the new consoles use a Unified Memory Architecture (UMA). That means that the same memory is accessible to both the CPU and GPU. That means that techniques involving the use of both processors on the same data could be significantly faster on the consoles than they are on your PC. It also means that game developers can use a large portion of the available system memory for storing high-res models and textures if they choose. Even high-end PC graphics cards don't usually have more than 3GB of memory today. So there could be issues with running out of video memory in the PC versions of games.

    The second factor is resolution and image quality expectations. A lot of people who buy an expensive gaming PC don't want to play at 1080p, and they want to run with higher levels of AA and other settings to enhance the image quality. That doesn't apply to 1080p TVs however that are significantly further away from the player. So while it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, you may need more graphical horsepower to drive your PC display that's 30 inches away than your TV that's 10 feet away.

    And then finally of course there's the oft-stated issue of overhead. Because PC hardware can be combined in a variety of configurations, access to the graphics is provided through a compatibility layer like DirectX or OpenGL, which in turn interfaces with the drivers for the videocard, before finally getting to the hardware. That allows the game code to - for the most part - not have to worry about exactly what hardware the game is going to run on. You can play most games regardless of what CPU or GPU you happen to have. However, the existence of those layers also introduces overhead, reducing performance.

    On a side note, why doesn't the comments section on the article page itself support paragraphs? It removes all of the line spacing, making long posts look like a wall of text. You have to go to the forum-type interface if you want line spacing.
  8. I couldnt agree more. The new consoles are gonna be the new "average" for gaming. Which is way above the "average" gaming pc at the moment. EA thought so.....so pc will play catch up for awhile.
  9. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,725   +3,700

    Thats still no excuse for not releasing a game for PC's, when there could still be a market for it. Games are great for helping entice people to upgrade their machine.
    Darkshadoe likes this.
  10. Hammayon

    Hammayon TS Enthusiast Posts: 67   +14

    Ok first and foremoust, you can buy a high end pc card for something like $250 off ebay. A 660 ti or a 7950. That will run circles around xbox and ps3 and be just as good (if not better) than the crap they are putting into the XBOX ONE and PS4. OMG folks, $250. Most of you should have I5 or equivalent with at least 2 GB of RAM (average is 4 GB). What else do you freakin need?

    $250 for a PCI video card! Most gamers, who play games, HAVE a decent video card in their rigs. If you don't, then upgrade sillies..
  11. TheinsanegamerN

    TheinsanegamerN TS Rookie

    oh really? like fifa 14, which runs at 400 fps on a gtx 670 at 1080p with maximum detail settings? please. fifa is not demanding, ea is just lazy.
  12. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TS Evangelist Posts: 820   +344

  13. yukka

    yukka TechSpot Paladin Posts: 861   +67

    Whoever said PC owners don't have game pads hasn't used the 360 game pads for PC CIA that brings console style gaming straight to your tower. Also steam has a new big screen mode designed for console style controller games with profiles for the most popular controllers.

    I think this is marketing BS to be honest. I looked at a couple of articles about the ignite engine and its meant to do amazing things like animate the crowd properly and make players react differently at different times during the game depending on the story of the game ie whether they have 1 minute to score and start pushing up quicker etc or if they are shockingly out of their depth and getting beaten 10-0 ie Spain vs Haiti.

    That sounds like a lot of useless stuff they won't get right the first time. Who wants the AI to make your players **** their pants and play ****. Who cares about the crowd being more crowd like. Crowd reaction to stuff in the game is already there anyway so could you tell the difference. FIFA 12 had the player impact engine but it was a bit silly. FIFA 13 improved it. FIFA 14 on next gen consoles will have these extra features that could screw up the gameplay and as Ignite is meant to do AI then the PC version will have different AI too. I think EA are headed into deep water. Certainly Fifa 14 isn't making me think I need a £400 console.
  14. Lurker101

    Lurker101 TS Evangelist Posts: 820   +344

    That was a brilliant match to watch
  15. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    You're right. I've seen a lot of worse specced PC's than that.
  16. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    I couldn't care less what the hell EA does nowadays. I avoid their titles like the plague. I for one, wouldn't be sorry to see them turn out the lights for good one of these days.
  17. yukka

    yukka TechSpot Paladin Posts: 861   +67

    The comments appear correctly formatted on iPhone...
  18. Fbarnett

    Fbarnett TS Booster Posts: 210   +30

    Wrong they know that people don't have money to keep upgrading pc's. They would rather people spend money buying more games for consoles. You buy a game for a xbox and put it in and play no upgrade needed.Then you buy another game etc
  19. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,725   +3,700

    But yet you suggest that the same cannot be done with a PC. I'm sorry but; just because there are upgrade options on PC, doesn't mean one must upgrade. Must you purchase a console which doesn't allow upgrades, to rid yourself of the desire to upgrade?

    I am a PC fanboy. Other than buying a console to keep your kids off the PC, I don't see any pros to a console that a PC doesn't have as well. And its getting to where a console is just as capable software wise, but yet limited by hardware capabilities. Allot of people bi_ch about Apple, but yet support the very foundation of which Apple stands with every purchase of a console.
  20. dynomike

    dynomike TS Rookie

    This is just Lies
    Fifa 14 will be available for playstation 2!!

    So saying PC gamers can't run this is just ridiculous!
  21. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Addict Posts: 439   +86

    I love how NBA 2k12 and 2k13 you could make a team with classic players. I made kobe the point and jordan the shooting guard on a triangle offense. Fun times!
  22. The O

    The O TS Rookie

    Doesn't bother me, FIFA 13 looks pretty good already, I much rather have gameplay improvement than graphics improvement. like the damn referee that won't get out of the way, c'mon, how hard is it to program him to get out of the way?
  23. The O

    The O TS Rookie

    Personally I'm sure, because I don't think it's crappy and love playing it on PC.

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