Early PS5 Pro shipments reveal massive upgrades: 16.7 teraflops GPU, 2TB SSD, and more

67% perf gain is not massive, or what is it you're trying to say?
People call a CPU gain of 30% massive... but we won't call a 67% the same? People even upgrade over 15-20%... Ofc, I wait until I can get a PC thats 200-300% better, so yeah. At least 5-10 years. Still, 70% is really big, so PS6 should be even better. A 700 bucks console is already doing things my PC for 2500 can barely do now. They can price the PS6 a cool 1k and I still think its a good deal compared to my PC, or the PC of the future. PC is stupidly expensive, so much so that a 1K console seems like a good deal. Which shows how bad the PC market has become.
 
People call a CPU gain of 30% massive... but we won't call a 67% the same? People even upgrade over 15-20%... Ofc, I wait until I can get a PC thats 200-300% better, so yeah. At least 5-10 years. Still, 70% is really big, so PS6 should be even better. A 700 bucks console is already doing things my PC for 2500 can barely do now. They can price the PS6 a cool 1k and I still think its a good deal compared to my PC, or the PC of the future. PC is stupidly expensive, so much so that a 1K console seems like a good deal. Which shows how bad the PC market has become.
Agreed, I've been building PCs since the 90s and the PC component market has never been so terrible. I guess that's true for a lot of markets these days, but the price of building a PC was becoming ridiculous long before covid and massive inflation hit. Add to that diminishing performance gains year over year due to Moore's law slowing. We are now paying way more for performance increases that used to be considered pathetic. All this makes the performance to price ratio of the PS5 and PS5 Pro relatively good, even if a lot of the PS5 Pro's performance gains come from PSSR.
 
Honestly disappointed the CPU didn't get the 3D Cache treatment, Zen 2 was not known for its gaming performance. Zen 3 is where AMD started to really shine.

That is a shame but that would not make economical sense as the PS4 Pro does not have the GPU power to bottleneck the X3D CPUs, not even the slowest AM4 model. The focus is also more on fidelity 4K gaming which further negates the benefits of the 3D V-Cache.

These console systems are built for all-round economical performance not peak performance.
 
Esports Evolution And How it All Began?
Esports, short for electronic sports, has become a huge part of the billion-dollar gaming industry. Here is a look at how it all began and evolved over time.

Origins of Esports
It is well-known that competitive gaming has existed since the early days of video games. When classic games such as Pong became increasingly popular, people organized tournaments and the term “Esports” began to gain popularity in the late 20th century, especially as home gaming consoles became more popular. A big moment came in 1980 with the first nationwide Space Invaders competition, followed by the first Donkey Kong tournament in 1981.

Esports Evolution
Rise of Competitive Gaming
During the 1990s, competitive gaming was at its peak, with games such as Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, and GoldenEye being among the most popular. These games laid the groundwork for esports that we know today, making the way for such legendary series as Starcraft, Warcraft, and Halo. During 1998, the Starcraft 2 tournament attracted millions of online viewers, contributing to the growth of esports.

Momentum in the 2000s
In the mid-2000s, esports gained mainstream attention. It was in 2006 that Halo 2 was featured on the USA Network as the first televised esports event. However, it was the launch of Twitch in 2011 that marked the beginning of the esports boom. Due to Twitch’s interactive platform, players were able to interact directly with their audience, resulting in a substantial increase in viewership.
The Reign of League of Legends
There is no doubt that League of Legends has become one of the most popular esports titles. In 2011, the first League of Legends World Championship was an impressive event that attracted a lot of attention. By 2013, the event was so popular that tickets for the Staples Center in Los Angeles sold out within minutes.

Types of Esports Tournaments
A variety of games across different genres are included in the realm of esports. Here are some examples.

First-person shooters (FPS)

Examples: Call of Duty, Apex Legends
Multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) games

Examples: League of Legends, Dota 2
Fighting games

Examples: Mortal Kombat, Super Smash Bros
Sports games

Examples: Madden, NBA2K
Other genres

Examples: Card games, real-time strategy games
Despite its early beginnings, esports has grown and continues to attract millions of fans worldwide.
What does this have to do with the article? Are you just a spammer? I'd avoid clicking any links this user posts.
Edit: Is there a way I can delete my post? This was just a reply to a spammer account that now appears to have been banned.
 
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I don’t think Sony biggest issue will be the price of the new console - Rather the fact that Gamepass -> PS+ atm, especially Gamepass Ultimate which grants you crossplay functionality with your pc and streaming
 
People call a CPU gain of 30% massive... but we won't call a 67% the same? People even upgrade over 15-20%... Ofc, I wait until I can get a PC thats 200-300% better, so yeah. At least 5-10 years. Still, 70% is really big, so PS6 should be even better. A 700 bucks console is already doing things my PC for 2500 can barely do now. They can price the PS6 a cool 1k and I still think its a good deal compared to my PC, or the PC of the future. PC is stupidly expensive, so much so that a 1K console seems like a good deal. Which shows how bad the PC market has become.

Or they celebrate the 5-10% Zen 5 gains. I can't wait for Nvidia to start making CPUs.

I'm a PC gamer. In the past, I used to have a PS3, PS4, and PS4 Pro. This gain is very nice. I will have to get a 5080 or 5090 in the Spring for my PC to be able to use my 4k screen to it's fullest. That alone will be double or triple the PS5 Pro. Then add in the entire AM5 platform I have to migrate to.
 
I haven't used a console since the 360, but if this 67% power increase, extra memory etc all proves to be true. It's impressive, and silly to say otherwise.

I'll be sticking with PC, but will look forward to proffessional reviews.
 
Tons of GPUs have more than 20 TFLOPS.
TFLOPS is a terrible metric anyway.
Also, you can't really compare Nvidia and AMD on TFLOPS when it comes to gaming performance.

The real improvement with PS5 Pro is not just better specs but PSSR. Delivering DLSS-like upscaling, which is far better than FSR and PSSR can be tweaked to perfection since its a console. PSSR and DLSS delivers way better image quality than FSR especially in motion. Much less artifacts and jitter. Close to nothing.

PS5 Pro is a pretty huge upgrade in raw GPU power as well. So like 50% more GPU power (67% more cores, 28% higher bandwidth) + PSSR makes a huge improvement for 4K/UHD gaming.

I have already seen PS5 Pro running on a QD-OLED TV and it delivered vastly better image quality than base PS5. No other console even comes close and you need a fairly good PC to get image quality and performance like this. 4070/7800XT level. That is 500 dollar GPUs on their own and then you need everything else on top. So 700 dollars is not really that steep of a price.

Lets see if Microsoft will one-up the PS5 Pro or they just don't care about Xbox anymore. Seems like they rather want to sell game passes.
The post I was responding to was suggesting that modern GPUs are around 50TFLOPS. I was just pointing out that only a few high-end GPUs can achieve that.
 
I haven't used a console since the 360, but if this 67% power increase, extra memory etc all proves to be true. It's impressive, and silly to say otherwise.

I'll be sticking with PC, but will look forward to proffessional reviews.
I will be sticking with PC as well, as main platform, however people say 700 dollars is crazy for PS5 Pro. It is really not when you think about it. A PC with the same power would cost way more, GPU is 500 dollars alone and then you need everything else.

PS5 Pro reviews are looking good also. Not for me, but I know tons of people prefer console gaming and it is always good with options.
 
That is true. I don't own a console, and I don't feel as though I am really missing out. Games take so much more development time and cost so much more to make, that I don't feel there are really enough titles being launched on console to make it worth while. I don't even care if I have to wait a few years to wait for Sony titles to come to pc before I can purchase and play them either. But I am 43 and I've learned patience.
On the contrary, I feel this is precisely why I do not want a PC because of the poor price to time availability ratio for me. A console gets the job done on day one haha. I've realized that at 30 years old, things quickly lose their shine these past few years and its important to enjoy while there's hype.

I hated the PS5 since it offered minimal selection of games which one could argue were debatable as to their graphics in comp to Ps4 pro. Consequently, I love the PS5 pro since now I can actually upgrade to something worthwhile. The only game I honestly missed out on is Cyberpunk for the ray tracing. Oh and no GTA 6 at launch as usual for PC smh.
 
On the contrary, I feel this is precisely why I do not want a PC because of the poor price to time availability ratio for me. A console gets the job done on day one haha. I've realized that at 30 years old, things quickly lose their shine these past few years and its important to enjoy while there's hype.

I hated the PS5 since it offered minimal selection of games which one could argue were debatable as to their graphics in comp to Ps4 pro. Consequently, I love the PS5 pro since now I can actually upgrade to something worthwhile. The only game I honestly missed out on is Cyberpunk for the ray tracing. Oh and no GTA 6 at launch as usual for PC smh.
As I mentioned. I don't care having to wait a few year for titles. By that time its "hopefully" more polished. There's too much games and not enough time to get through everything nowadays. I am not all hyped for most titles nowadays. I never pre-order anything anymore, learned from getting burned by Cyberpunk. But to each his own. Enjoy your ps5 pro. It definitely seems like a worthy purchase if you do not already own the base ps5. I also like tinkering, which I guess the consoles are poorly designed for. So I'll stick with pc.
 
I will be sticking with PC as well, as main platform, however people say 700 dollars is crazy for PS5 Pro. It is really not when you think about it. A PC with the same power would cost way more, GPU is 500 dollars alone and then you need everything else.

PS5 Pro reviews are looking good also. Not for me, but I know tons of people prefer console gaming and it is always good with options.
I agree. We DO have a choice.
The spanner in the works is Cost of decent GPU with matching CPU Memory etc is huge.

I may get a new PS5, if I find spare funds. Seeing as upgrading to an LG 48" 4k OLED TV soon, I reckon it may be worth it. Then I can sit on the couch.

TBH, I am out of date with console gaming but used to love the 360 all those years ago.
I know it's early days (re: new improved PS5) but what do you guys reckon?

Would I be disappointed? Would I be extatic with joy?
I am on the fence so any general opinion would be great!

EDIT: I would not use said TV for PC gaming. Due to location, and 48" for a PC monitor except gaming is OTT! I use an quantum dot Acer 1440p 27" for PC. (Gaming, work, mail etc etc.)
 
Funny how neither article nor user comments point out the problems of PS5, instead focus is on TFLOPS. Sony did a nice marketing (brainwashing) I see... It's simply the worst console they ever made, hands down one of the worst consoles in history.

Anyone buying PS5 pro or not pro, should get their heads examined.
 
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Funny how neither article nor user comments point out the problems of PS5, instead focus is on TFLOPS. Sony did a nice marketing (brainwashing) I see... It's simply the worst console they ever made, hands down one of the worst consoles in history.

Anyone buying PS5 pro or not, should get their heads examined.
Why?
 
Everything is paywalled. The console doesn't even let you back up your save files without PS+ subscription for life - pay till you drop dead. Still you can't acess them even then.

They have a web browser but prevent use of the app. I have never seen anything like it in my life, Microsoft, Google or Apple would have been fined millions of dollars for even lesser than this!!

They can do BC but refuse to do it, so you can rebuy old games on digital store. Competition does BC flawleslly.

They have built in planned obsolescence, so you can't preserve your console for retro gaming one day or if you ever wanna hand it over to someone special. It's was designed this way by making ssd drive soldered in mobo. First three PS consoles where future proof, not 4 & 5.

PS3 was thier masterpiece. First three consoles where all perfect. PS5 doesn't even have the functionality of PS1 released in 1995 which I can to this very day use to play audio-cds. PS2 was a DVD player, and PS3 was a Blue-Ray player and a linux HTPC masterpiece that will never exist again.

But hey PS5 Pro is cool bro it has these TFLOPS you should care much about, so let's rush and buy it!!! Like I said, too much brainwashing.
 
Everything is paywalled. The console doesn't even let you back up your save files without PS+ subscription for life - pay till you drop dead. Still you can't acess them even then.

They have a web browser but prevent use of the app. I have never seen anything like it in my life, Microsoft, Google or Apple would have been fined millions of dollars for even lesser than this!!

They can do BC but refuse to do it, so you can rebuy old games on digital store. Competition does BC flawleslly.

They have built in planned obsolescence, so you can't preserve your console for retro gaming one day or if you ever wanna hand it over to someone special. It's was designed this way by making ssd drive soldered in mobo. First three PS consoles where future proof, not 4 & 5.

PS3 was thier masterpiece. First three consoles where all perfect. PS5 doesn't even have the functionality of PS1 released in 1995 which I can to this very day use to play audio-cds. PS2 was a DVD player, and PS3 was a Blue-Ray player and a linux HTPC masterpiece that will never exist again.

But hey PS5 Pro is cool bro it has these TFLOPS you should care much about, so let's rush and buy it!!! Like I said, too much brainwashing.

Thank you. I’ve been primarily a PC gamer since I first got into computers as a kid in the late ’80s, though I also own all of the current consoles and many from past generations. You’ve made some excellent points, and I share your concerns. It’s frustrating how Sony has fully embraced the “games as a service” model, where everything requires a subscription, ownership is fleeting, and planned obsolescence is baked into the experience. Unfortunately, this trend isn’t unique to Sony; it’s a direction that much of the gaming, entertainment, and even other industries are rapidly moving toward. While PC gaming is not immune to these shifts, it still offers more flexibility and control by comparison.

That said, I think saying console gamers should “get their heads examined” is a bit over the top. For many, the upfront cost, complexity, and technical skills required for PC gaming are significant barriers. Consoles remain the gold standard for “plug and play” simplicity. Companies like Valve are making strides toward bridging that gap and making PC gaming more accessible, but there’s still a long way to go.

It’s true that, over time, console gamers often spend more money than PC gamers, especially due to the higher price of console games. However, many console players only buy a handful of games, often exclusives that aren’t available on PC. For these players, the convenience and ease of consoles outweigh the long-term costs.

Consoles are undeniably more convenient and have a much lower barrier to entry. They’re designed for people who either lack technical expertise or simply want to avoid the hassle of maintaining a gaming PC. While consoles require occasional software updates, these are typically automated and require little effort or knowledge. In contrast, PC gaming demands familiarity with desktop operating systems, software installation, managing multiple game launchers, storage management, driver updates, hardware compatibility, tweaking in-game settings, troubleshooting bugs, and more. This flexibility is what makes PCs so powerful, but it also makes them far more time-consuming and complex to use effectively.

While I agree that many would benefit from switching to PC gaming in the long run, doing so requires substantial prior knowledge, patience, and a willingness to deal with far more frustration than most are willing or able to handle.
 
Don't forget, PC is only more expensive initially. Consoles go over the price of PC gaming during the 6 year console run, paying for 80€ games and subscriptions. Also guys playing competitive games over consoles, their controllers don't go longer than 6 months. New controller is 70€. On PC keyboard and mouse can go for a decade
 
Everything is paywalled. The console doesn't even let you back up your save files without PS+ subscription for life - pay till you drop dead. Still you can't acess them even then.

They have a web browser but prevent use of the app. I have never seen anything like it in my life, Microsoft, Google or Apple would have been fined millions of dollars for even lesser than this!!

They can do BC but refuse to do it, so you can rebuy old games on digital store. Competition does BC flawleslly.

They have built in planned obsolescence, so you can't preserve your console for retro gaming one day or if you ever wanna hand it over to someone special. It's was designed this way by making ssd drive soldered in mobo. First three PS consoles where future proof, not 4 & 5.

PS3 was thier masterpiece. First three consoles where all perfect. PS5 doesn't even have the functionality of PS1 released in 1995 which I can to this very day use to play audio-cds. PS2 was a DVD player, and PS3 was a Blue-Ray player and a linux HTPC masterpiece that will never exist again.

But hey PS5 Pro is cool bro it has these TFLOPS you should care much about, so let's rush and buy it!!! Like I said, too much brainwashing.
2nd informative post I read by you today, man!

I actually know something about this and what you say is spot on.
BTW: I STILL have my PS3 slim. I use it for Blu-ray at 1080p - Still as good as gets for blu ray up to 1080p.

I also have the wonderful Rez like game, "Child of Eden," which I give play on occaison. Uncharted 2, too!

I bought t at the same time approx as my third Xbox 360. My last 360 red ring of deathed years ago.

I never needed to replace my PS3 and still use it. Also years back I left it on for a month as it used be function as a F@H client. Thats alot of on time. Folding, games, Blu-Ray. I got my moneys worth 10 times over.

I've decided I will never buy another console. A lot of it is for the reasons you mentioned.

P.S. Been building and using PCs since 2009, and do 95% of gaming on PC. 5% for nostagia on the PS3, Child of Eden.
 
2nd informative post I read by you today, man!

I actually know something about this and what you say is spot on.
BTW: I STILL have my PS3 slim. I use it for Blu-ray at 1080p - Still as good as gets for blu ray up to 1080p.

I also have the wonderful Rez like game, "Child of Eden," which I give play on occaison. Uncharted 2, too!

I bought t at the same time approx as my third Xbox 360. My last 360 red ring of deathed years ago.

I never needed to replace my PS3 and still use it. Also years back I left it on for a month as it used be function as a F@H client. Thats alot of on time. Folding, games, Blu-Ray. I got my moneys worth 10 times over.

I've decided I will never buy another console. A lot of it is for the reasons you mentioned.

P.S. Been building and using PCs since 2009, and do 95% of gaming on PC. 5% for nostagia on the PS3, Child of Eden.
Yeah PS3 generation was pretty much last time you could own anything. Games as a service where just getting started then, Sony had a shooter called MAG on PS3, that game ended just like Concord, sign of coming of modern times
 
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