Elon Musk blames DDoS attack for delay in livestreamed Trump interview, but X employees say he's lying

[havok585]

How would someone DDoS Twitter, really? Do you have any idea how big the infra is? When did you last hear about a successful DDoS against Twitter, Twitch, or YouTube?

When it's currently BLACK OPS government funded.

 

[Plutoisaplanet]

Another day, another anti-Musk hit piece. The only lie here is the article itself. During the first 30 minutes of the outage, Musk stated "there appears to be" a DDOS attack on X. But within a few hours -- before the above story was even printed -- Musk stated that "unforced errors" by X employees contributed to the outage.

Thanks for mentioning this. Here's the relevant X post:
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823255905502437775

 

[axiomatic13]

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make. Are you suggesting it's possible to DDoS physical servers in a building with an X logo, but not on AWS or Google?

No, I am saying that Twitter would fare exactly the same as anyone else on AWS/Google cloud services in a DDoS attack, and that there is no special infrastructure advantage that Twitter has over anyone else.

 

[bclaymiles]

No, I am saying that Twitter would fare exactly the same as anyone else on AWS/Google cloud services in a DDoS attack, and that there is no special infrastructure advantage that Twitter has over anyone else.

But your premise is faulty. 'exactly the same as anyone else on AWS/Google' is objectively false.

I have infrastructure in AWS, Google, and Oracle cloud. If any of my tiny servers were hit with a DDoS, they'd go offline instantly, and it would take ages to recover, since I don't pay for support and I have a very limited budget to address it. Twitter almost certainly has infrastructure into the thousands of servers, an unlimited budget, and likely pays for high level support. In a DDoS, they would have significant "advantages" for addressing a DDoS, as evidenced by the relatively short time to recover. At the same time, with thousands of servers, isolating a DDoS is much more complex, so rather than a five minute disruption, it was forty minutes.
Beyond that, there are many different mechanisms for deploying a DDoS. There's TCP SYN flooding, Smurf attacks, UDP flooding, DNS amplification, and more -- and they can be deployed serially or in parallel, and be directed to subsets of servers, then when mitigated, move to other subsets.
DDoS's occur all the time. You just don't hear about most of them, because most are to smaller destinations. When determined malefactors marshall their resources at a large target they are deeply motivated to disrupt, then you hear about it. TDS is widespread, so bad actors are plentiful.

 

[axiomatic13]

But your premise is faulty. 'exactly the same as anyone else on AWS/Google' is objectively false.

I have infrastructure in AWS, Google, and Oracle cloud. If any of my tiny servers were hit with a DDoS, they'd go offline instantly, and it would take ages to recover, since I don't pay for support and I have a very limited budget to address it. Twitter almost certainly has infrastructure into the thousands of servers, an unlimited budget, and likely pays for high level support. In a DDoS, they would have significant "advantages" for addressing a DDoS, as evidenced by the relatively short time to recover. At the same time, with thousands of servers, isolating a DDoS is much more complex, so rather than a five minute disruption, it was forty minutes.
Beyond that, there are many different mechanisms for deploying a DDoS. There's TCP SYN flooding, Smurf attacks, UDP flooding, DNS amplification, and more -- and they can be deployed serially or in parallel, and be directed to subsets of servers, then when mitigated, move to other subsets.
DDoS's occur all the time. You just don't hear about most of them, because most are to smaller destinations. When determined malefactors marshall their resources at a large target they are deeply motivated to disrupt, then you hear about it. TDS is widespread, so bad actors are plentiful.

Such an elegant description of my point. Thank you sir, truly. Take a bow.

 

[bclaymiles]

Such an elegant description of my point. Thank you sir, truly. Take a bow.

Yeah, no, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[saladbarsmash]

Musk knows his audience is gullible and stupid being trump supporters so he knew they would believe his lies.

And Harris stating the cloud isn't anywhere physical, and is up there in the cloud and to have TDS strong enough to believe this and support Harris says everything we need to know. C'mon man!

 

[Kashim]

Projection is a helluva drug, eh?

I don't know, ask the Orange Clown running for president. He's an expert at it.

PS. - The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 

[Kashim]

That is not even remotely true. I know of many people who like Musk (many are space junkies), and exactly none of them are "rabid far right MAGA clowns".

Every heard of exaggeration as a literary device? You know, hyperbole? I find it interesting that it's the only part of my post you disputed though.

And Trump is gonna claim that there were so many people trying to get on X, or Y or whatever stupid name you want to call it.

Actually, Musk is already claiming that their "interview" (which was really just two clowns having a phone conversation) generated nearly a BILLION views. It's hilarious the way Musk counts views. If you simply scroll by a tag or mention of it then it counts as a view. If you scroll by it 50 times without actually listening to any of it, it counts as 50 views.

Trump is already celebrating it as the most views conversation on the internet ever.

 

[bclaymiles]

lol Twitter files. Bunch of nonsense. You clowns never heard a conspiracy theory you didn't love. What about Hillary's e-mails, Obama's birth certificate, and Hunter Biden's laptop? I bet your opinion on those would be long enough for a novel.

Twitter files: verified evidence that the Biden administration was "collaborating" with Twitter staff to delete and ban legal speech that they didn't like. Anyone who loves their country should be mortified at government doing an end-run to censor legal speech.

Hillary's emails: It's undisputed that - in violation of even the most basic security standards and of law, that she maintained an unsecured email server at her home that received classified and higher documents. That's reckless disregard for national security.

Obama's birth certificate: yeah, I'm with you on that. Bunch of idiocy.

Hunter Biden's laptop: FBI knew the laptop and contents were legit, but stayed silent as a bunch of statist spooks (CIA largely) claimed - with careful wording - that it was "russian disinformation". HB's obvious illegal activity, as well his influence peddling, has resulted in tax evasion and firearm charges and convictions.

These aren't opinions, you can verify the details yourself. Assuming you're interested in facts.

None of this, however, has much to do with the topic of the article.

 

[dirtyferret]

And Harris stating the cloud isn't anywhere physical, and is up there in the cloud and to have TDS strong enough to believe this and support Harris says everything we need to know. C'mon man!

Pathetic cult by pathetic conman for pathetic people

 

[Jerry in WA]

Another day, another anti-Musk hit piece. The only lie here is the article itself. During the first 30 minutes of the outage, Musk stated "there appears to be" a DDOS attack on X. But within a few hours -- before the above story was even printed -- Musk stated that "unforced errors" by X employees contributed to the outage.


Musk was loved by the soft-minded Left until he released the Twitter files, revealed an illegal conspiracy between the FBI and Twitter/Facebook et al to silence true, but politically damaging stories and authors -- a violation of constitutional rights so severe that a federal judge barred the Biden Administration from further contact with social media firms.

Nope. The day he went full assclown on the divers in the cave was when the pendulum swung. No one actually cares about made up fantasy scenarios coming from the people covering up for blatant fascists.

 

[bclaymiles]

Nope. The day he went full assclown on the divers in the cave was when the pendulum swung. No one actually cares about made up fantasy scenarios coming from the people covering up for blatant fascists.

2024 definition of "fascist": Anything two inches to the right of Karl Marx.