In a couple of weeks he fired most of twitter staff, changed its policies, angered many, and risks having the app removed from Apple and Google stores, good job...
No. It would be enough if you or your company makes any business with China. Already some people had to apologize after saying that Taiwan is a country - not because they are in China, but because China have leverage to ensure even outside China free speech is limited and penalized.It would seem then, you would have to move to China to have it effect you..
You're absolutely right, I had initially wrong understanding of it.You don't have to pay for a subscription for that and can buy it outright at any time just like all car packages, aka that's the alternate not primary method of receiving the feature.
Never going to happen. Musk is just a blowhard who got lucky in life, that's all. He doesn't build or make anything, he just takes credit for other people's work, but it's not going to work this time.People need a viable alternative to Apple and Google OSes/ecosystems. I think Musk is the only one with enough money and balls to build one. Perhaps a Teslaphone running TeslaOS and a Tesla App Store... 😀
Perhaps, but the only issue on the table is specific to whether or not Taiwan is its own country. That's an argument that's been going on for decades. Even POTUS had to clarify the US "one country policy", toward China. (Right after he said, "we'd defend Taiwan to the death if China invaded").No. It would be enough if you or your company makes any business with China. Already some people had to apologize after saying that Taiwan is a country - not because they are in China, but because China have leverage to ensure even outside China free speech is limited and penalized.
Or, I would have to have substantial manufacturing in China for it to affect me like it would Apple/Musk....It would seem then, you would have to move to China to have it effect you..
Meanwhile, I of course, should be agreeing with you. You've already proven I don't have, "freedom of speech", if I don't.
You'll have to forgive for the "My Pillow Guy", nonsense. I just got back from reading CBS's "fake news".
BTW, are "world politics" or the CCP's censorship off topic, or not?
Before I forget, it's not your money that will be lost,now is it?
To get directly back on topic, how would you feel if the local supermarket sued you for not shopping there? That's pretty much what Musk is trying to do. In reality, he's just running his yap for attention and publicity.
What should be terrifying you is that apple has enough market control to say "you allow mean things, your apps is not allowed to exist"
No they don't. We already have such a system, it is called Windows, and it's swarming with malware. No thanks.People need a viable alternative to Apple and Google OSes/ecosystems. I think Musk is the only one with enough money and balls to build one. Perhaps a Teslaphone running TeslaOS and a Tesla App Store... 😀
Agreed. His current actions are working against him, however, he seems unable to understand this, and that is exemplified by him blaming others for his actions.Never going to happen. Musk is just a blowhard who got lucky in life, that's all. He doesn't build or make anything, he just takes credit for other people's work, but it's not going to work this time.
Pulling advertising is one thing...not allowing a Twitter app because people are free to speak their mind is a whole different thing. As long as the left leaning green haired weirdos are running Twitter, silencing conservative views and deleting true stories that would make democrats' look bad there are no problems or complaints. But holy **** take the weirdos away and all hell breaks loose because.....people might be free to have their own thoughts and share them. We just don't want that at all....hive mind for the win!You don't want to advertise on Musk's dumpster fire platform? Well, you must hate free speech then!
Is that even true? I don't use twitter but I would be curious to know what is and is not allowed now.The world's most valuable brand doesn't want to advertise on a site that allows racial slurs? Shocking!
Never going to happen. Musk is just a blowhard who got lucky in life, that's all. He doesn't build or make anything, he just takes credit for other people's work, but it's not going to work this time.
I'm not interested in your straw man argument. I don't care about Apple, iPhones, or Steve Jobs (I do not own any Apple products) so your pointless reference is falling on deaf ears. My point was that Musk is just a clown who fell *** backwards into money and now makes a LOT of noise, but actually has zero talent for anything and rarely ever follows through on any threats/promises. The only reason he even bought Twitter was because he couldn't find a way to weasel out of it like he usually does.You mean, Musk does what Steve Jobs did when "he" "created" the iPhone?!
All you're doing is regurgitating the baseless propaganda you watch on Fox News everyday. Oh boo-hoo, poor conservatives are getting silences all over the internet. All the "left leaning green haired weirdos" (whoever those are) are out to get you and Musk is your digital savior that will bring back free speech! This is akin to Trump bringing back Christmas, because apparently the liberals stole Christmas before Trump took office.Pulling advertising is one thing...not allowing a Twitter app because people are free to speak their mind is a whole different thing. As long as the left leaning green haired weirdos are running Twitter, silencing conservative views and deleting true stories that would make democrats' look bad there are no problems or complaints. But holy **** take the weirdos away and all hell breaks loose because.....people might be free to have their own thoughts and share them. We just don't want that at all....hive mind for the win!
Is that even true? I don't use twitter but I would be curious to know what is and is not allowed now.
You people are hilarious. Musk owns Twitter and it's a private company, so he can do whatever he wants. On the other hand, Apple can't do whatever they want. They must keep paying Musk's dumpster fire ad dollars and they're not allowed to remove Twitter from their app store, right? Guess what genius, Apple can remove any app for any reason (or no reason at all) at any time. PERIOD. I don't generally like Apple and don't own a single Apple product, but on this matter I agree with them 100%. Musk wants to turn Twitter into a free-for-all hate platform? That's great, but they wont' be getting any advertising dollars from big players like Apple or be welcomed on any mobile platform.Why would Apple care about Twitter having moderation? I don't remember Apple saying anything when it came out that Twitter crushed a true story about Hunter Biden. Truth....who needs it I guess....
It's not like people are forced to use Twitter. If you find it to be toxic then stay away from it, it's just that simple. No reason for Apple to jump in and try to look like the political correctness hero.
I didn't think it was possible but it makes me hate Apple even more than I already do.
How about hate-speech?Of course Apple isn't going to take free speech seriously, they have the bulk of their best factories in China (and have a lot to lose). They've already shown that they don't care about anything else but making their shareholders happy, and appearing to be the good guys (with their effective PR).
Heck, I'm still not convinced Musk is fully on board with free speech, considering Tesla also has factories in China...
It's simple, twitter was OK when only the "right people" were targeted, harassed, doxed, or silenced. Now that those on "the right sid eof history" can be criticized, it must be shut down NOW NOW NOW!Why would Apple care about Twitter having moderation? I don't remember Apple saying anything when it came out that Twitter crushed a true story about Hunter Biden. Truth....who needs it I guess....
It's not like people are forced to use Twitter. If you find it to be toxic then stay away from it, it's just that simple. No reason for Apple to jump in and try to look like the political correctness hero.
I didn't think it was possible but it makes me hate Apple even more than I already do.
All you're doing is regurgitating the baseless propaganda you watch on Fox News everyday. Oh boo-hoo, poor conservatives are getting silences all over the internet. All the "left leaning green haired weirdos" (whoever those are) are out to get you and Musk is your digital savior that will bring back free speech! This is akin to Trump bringing back Christmas, because apparently the liberals stole Christmas before Trump took office.
Considering how much whining conservatives are doing about being silenced on the internet that's all you see on every message board and social media platform. How is that we see that everywhere if they're being silenced like you say?
Being able to criticize ideas and people without being silenced, deplatformed, and threatened. It's not that hard to understand.What is "free speech" to you exactly? You people throw that phrase around when your lies, propaganda, bullying, and hate speech get deleted. That's what this is about, right? You want to be able to spread your vile lies and soak the whole internet in it without any accountability, because hey it's free speech!
Why wasnt it an issue when twitter addicts where hurling slurs at dave chapelle, a Black man? Why is it only an issue now that musk says people shouldnt be banned for wrongthink?The world's most valuable brand doesn't want to advertise on a site that allows racial slurs? Shocking!
Interesting that you should bring that up. Jobs stole many of "his ideas" from Xerox PARC. He even admitted doing so in https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2104994/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3 and it is not unlike what Musk is/has doing/done.You mean, Musk does what Steve Jobs did when "he" "created" the iPhone?!
Pulling advertising is one thing...not allowing a Twitter app because people are free to speak their mind is a whole different thing. As long as the left leaning green haired weirdos are running Twitter, silencing conservative views and deleting true stories that would make democrats' look bad there are no problems or complaints. But holy **** take the weirdos away and all hell breaks loose because.....people might be free to have their own thoughts and share them. We just don't want that at all....hive mind for the win!
Is that even true? I don't use twitter but I would be curious to know what is and is not allowed now.