Pretty sure that's a common viewpoint of triggered lefties, but I'm not here to assume political stances.
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Pretty sure that's a common viewpoint of triggered lefties, but I'm not here to assume political stances.
If I gave you a bag with 100 Skittles and said 1 of them would kill you I'm sure you wouldn't touch that bag of Skittles.
QuantumPhysics
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amstech
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Thats not an equal analogy.
Again, I agree that safeguards still need to be practiced but you can't make everything and anything completely safe. The world is never going to be a safe place, its a risk to drive down the road. People need to stop living in fear, over protecting their kids and scrubbing everything, its good for your immune system to fight germs. Anyways, back to the numbers:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...f-coronavirus-comments/ar-BB12Zsc0?li=BBnb7Kz
MSN/Dan Patrick said:
COVID 19 is very serious, and should be taken seriously.
Deathrates are overblown and 98% of folks, are fine, if you look at the correct numbers.
Both of those statements are true, and solutions can be had to accommodate both, careful what you read in the media, cnn, msnbc, fox news, ext, are all there to make money, not be truthful.
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How is that a non equal analogy? A 1% chance of dying is a 1% chance of dying regardless of whats killing you. Are you saying that you'd eat the skittles? Is it not an equal analogy because it doesn't fit with the narrative you're trying to push?
Str8Shot
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In that case you can stay home in your parents' basement and sit this one out and keep watching the CNN hype and hysteria.
People have a right to assemble, right to freedom of speech, and that goes for both sides. Somehow the freedom-lovers are always criticized when trying to exercise their Constitutional rights.
I'm sure Southeast Asia, Europe, the middle east and Australia shut everything down because they hate trump. You know, the places that shut down everything down weeks before the US did.
Str8Shot
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That's small thinking. This is organized on a global scale because you don't understand what's involved, and the absolute scope of it all - the child trafficking, the abuse, money laundering, pay-to-play schemes. Research and educate yourself.
I'd be happy to, but perhaps I need someone like you to provide some sources for your claims. Otherwise I can't be certain that the gubbermint isn't lying to me
What if I threw in a million dollar skittle...would you not eat a few? Or what if, you were starving to death, would you not take the risk?
That's a hard no on both ends. Although, I'd really like to meet the person giving out all the money for these , "would you do X for Y dollars?"
Pit1209
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You certainly don't understand numbers do you?
Pit1209
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So what a global pandemic (this being one of many over the centuries) have anything to do with all that nonsense you said like child trafficking and money laundering? in fact one can say that the pandemic has affected those things in the worst way, can you show me where to find that information? Hope is not in the same books talking about the bigfoot and area 51.
cliffordcooley
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I don't have anything against them rallying. But once they rally, I feel they should be quarantined for two weeks.
It's not necessarily about the numbers involved with the skittles. The point is, life is not guaranteed. There is a degree of probability that could be attributed to absolutely everything we do. Whether it's probability of a car accident, tripping down a flight of stairs, becoming diabetic due to a poor diet, hitting the ground at 100 mph due to a faulty bungi jump cord, etc etc. Should all activities involving such risks be eliminated or would it be better to develop best practices to lower the probability of harm? I think the point has been made abundantly clear to all, the importance of distancing/ppe/blah blah by shutting down the world. Now it's time to selectively open things back up and take what we've learned to better protect ourselves because the free skittles won't last forever. Life is a risk, and freedom makes it fun. Cheers
Yes. Like that rally in Texas that drew Alex Jones and some 100+ "protesters"
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The funny thing about this is that during the Reagan years, conservatives/republicans fought to make it the way it is by eliminating the Fairness Doctrine and in fact, did so in 1987. Democrats wanted to maintain it The conservative/republican argument at the time - it violated the first amendment rights of those who it affected - which would have been Fakebook in that time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine
And conservatives/republicans are still yelling about 1st amendment rights violations. Can't live with it; can't live without it.
Which is it? Seems like a chicken and egg argument to me.
As I see it, if the Fairness Doctrine were brought back because of conservative/republican blather, 30 or so years from now, they would want to switch it back.
It all reminds me of a famous saying about doing things over and over again and expecting different results.
It is clear to me that if conservatives/republicans do not like the way that it is, they have only themselves to blame.
It is too bad we cannot look into alternative time and see if the numbers changed due to not having a lockdown. There would almost certainly be far more cases, and it does not affect just the old or immunocompromised. Here's a story about an Iron Man competitor that nearly died because if it - https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-man-is-an-ironman-covid-19-nearly-killed-him/569761222/
Whatever side of the aisle you are on, you have conservatives/republicans from Reagan's administration, circa 1987, to blame/thank for that.
Panda218
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Freedumb lovers do quite enough criticizing when the left assemble for peaceful protests outside of a global pandemic (Hoax if you will /s). See the post above from TheInsaneperson...
Jules Mark II
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Even if you survive COVID 19 you will most likely to get serious lung damage. Best not getting infected.
COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function
Researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19. Scans suggest sustained organ damage.
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-recovered-patients-have-partially-reduced-lung-function/a-52859671
"In some patients, lung function could decline by about 20 to 30% after recovery," says Dr. Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the Infectious Diseases Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Hong Kong.
COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function
Researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of those who were infected by COVID-19. Scans suggest sustained organ damage.
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-recovered-patients-have-partially-reduced-lung-function/a-52859671
"In some patients, lung function could decline by about 20 to 30% after recovery," says Dr. Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the Infectious Diseases Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Hong Kong.
I'm in the camp that says Facebook can do what they want and are not liable for any American constitutional rights regarding freedom of speech. Facebook is a forum run by a private company. It has rules and it has administrators. Much like Techspot. If you break their rules, your posts get deleted and you could be banned. I've had posts deleted by Techspot. I agree with their decisions and I now have a greater understanding of their forum rules. I didn't go crying to my nearest lawyer or the local press. If you don't like how Facebook treats what you post, then go somewhere else. At least you have the freedom to do that.
In general, 80% of people recover on their own. 14% of people need general hospitalisation. And 6% of people need emergency ICU care. There are also reports of recovered people suffering long-term damage, whether from the virus itself or from the treatments they were given (such as choloroquine). So, saying that 98% of infected people are fine seems too far a stretch.
An interesting recent article on how a trial involving chloroquine was halted as it was killing as many patients as the coronavirus: https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/emerging-diseases/news/online/{8be32d78-16b7-45d8-a093-19869415cc6a}/high-dose-chloroquine-trial-for-covid-19-halted-due-to-increased-fatality-rates
The coronavirus death rate is probably somewhere between 2% and 6%. But it is still working its way around the globe with the potential to wreak havoc in poorer countries that are slow to get it as they don't do much international trade. Many countries are not testing as high as they should. Also, many countries only report deaths in hospitals - those that die at home or in nursing homes are often not counted and we know how devastated many elderly nursing homes have been.
The problem with statistics is that they are often wrong. They are especially wrong when the event is still happening. For example, in my country (Ireland) the statistics are so wrong that a week ago we were showing a 96% death rate. The UK was the same. Currently, the US has a 35% death rate. At least I hope they're wrong! https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
In general, 80% of people recover on their own. 14% of people need general hospitalisation. And 6% of people need emergency ICU care. There are also reports of recovered people suffering long-term damage, whether from the virus itself or from the treatments they were given (such as choloroquine). So, saying that 98% of infected people are fine seems too far a stretch.
An interesting recent article on how a trial involving chloroquine was halted as it was killing as many patients as the coronavirus: https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/emerging-diseases/news/online/{8be32d78-16b7-45d8-a093-19869415cc6a}/high-dose-chloroquine-trial-for-covid-19-halted-due-to-increased-fatality-rates
The coronavirus death rate is probably somewhere between 2% and 6%. But it is still working its way around the globe with the potential to wreak havoc in poorer countries that are slow to get it as they don't do much international trade. Many countries are not testing as high as they should. Also, many countries only report deaths in hospitals - those that die at home or in nursing homes are often not counted and we know how devastated many elderly nursing homes have been.
That study has been debunked: https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlie...ould-be-far-lower-than-believed/#5dba39881517
I find it absolutely amazing that the people supporting the rallies are apparently living on a virtual island.
Have you never heard of Italy? or other countries that did not lock down fast enough and now have so many corpses they literally cannot cremate them fast enough and are running out of storage space?
Try to look past the fence of your own yard once in a while before making outright stupid statements.
Have you never heard of Italy? or other countries that did not lock down fast enough and now have so many corpses they literally cannot cremate them fast enough and are running out of storage space?
Try to look past the fence of your own yard once in a while before making outright stupid statements.
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