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FCC to vote on rule that will charge consumers to hear grievances

By Cal Jeffrey · 40 replies
Jul 11, 2018
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  1. Danny101

    Danny101 TS Guru Posts: 599   +233

    I would propose that the complainant is charged $100 if the complaint is found to be illegitimate. Then if it's legit, then the company is fined and the complainant pays nothing. Makes the complainant mind their P's and Q's. My position is that internet is a utility and should be regulated as such. ISP's complain about network congestion. Well companies like Network and Hulu that reach certain data and bandwidth thresholds, I could go along with them being charged extra. For companies that are under that threshold can escape the extra expense. ISP's should not be allowed to block sites. I see nothing wrong with a tiered speed approach. I don't need a whole lot of speed nor should I have to pay for more than I need. I don't give a damn about 4k. Honestly, I don't need more than 720p. 480p is plenty most of the time. The ISP's again do not have a First Admendment right to block websites. I say that in response to Trump's latest Supreme Court pick who thinks so.
  2. Bubbajim

    Bubbajim TechSpot Staff Posts: 569   +568

    What's the point of an investigation and arbitration service if the outcome is already known? How do you define an 'illegitimate' complaint? What if someone's been treated incredibly unfairly and underhandedly, but the company's conduct is just inside the letter of the law - would the person complaining about that be charged for their illegitimate complaint?

    The whole point of schemes like these is to keep huge, rich, powerful entities in check so that the average citizen doesn't get screwed. If the FCC is having such money woes, start a levy or a case charge on the businesses, not a charge on the people it's meant to protect and represent.

    Here in the UK (and other EU countries) we have 'Alternative Dispute Resolution' services, like Ombudsman schemes or other regulatory bodies. The system isn't perfect, but it works, and doesn't screw the common citizen for daring to complain about shoddy service or malpractice.
    Danny101 and wiyosaya like this.
  3. Berty Boy

    Berty Boy TS Rookie

    Baaaaahhh only sheeple will worry about this **** ..... why im on a path to become suis juris and govern my own affairs
  4. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,337   +1,751

    Given his history of buckling, he would probably agree after some pressure and then come back and say something like, it's all locker room antics, who cares! ;)
  5. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,337   +1,751

    Claims of First Amendment violations do not apply to public/private companies, so they can block any web site they want. This is also well-known and easy to research.
  6. OutlawCecil

    OutlawCecil TS Guru Posts: 571   +411

    Spoken like somebody who thinks people governing themselves makes a good society. Anarchy FTW!
  7. Wizwill

    Wizwill TS Enthusiast Posts: 95   +39

    The US Treasury sends this guy a check but I'd bet his real income comes from the vested interests he is a lapdog for.
    GirlDownunder likes this.
  8. agb81

    agb81 TS Booster Posts: 79   +38

    You might be right.

    I think the issue here is that the fee equals the amount of money an ISP can charge you before you decide to issue a complaint to FCC. And that sucks.

    Basically those $250 are fees that an ISPs could pull out their *** "safely" before someone stands up against them.
  9. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 2,060   +1,457

    I would not be surpised
  10. Danny101

    Danny101 TS Guru Posts: 599   +233

    To allow ISP's to block websites would violate the websites free speech. Now I submit to the point that nefarious websites can pop up and need to be blocked, so maybe their needs to be some kind of authentication within zones so as long as a website went through that, then it can't be block. The internet is a necessity for certain transactions being that corps are requiring it often for applications and even payroll. That in my view makes internet access a public utility and should be regulated. If companies remove the internet requirement to operate and a person can manage without it then I will rescind. Like I said, some jobs cannot be applied for unless one is on-line.
  11. JamesSWD

    JamesSWD TS Maniac Posts: 289   +169

    He killed the Internet? Really? Then how are you reading this article and commenting?

    (shaking head)
  12. GirlDownunder

    GirlDownunder TS Booster Posts: 102   +30

    Thank Trump, for the dismantling of the net-neutrality law:

    "Passing the plan is a major victory for Pai, a Donald Trump appointee and former Verizon lawyer who has been a long-term critic of the net neutrality rules brought in under Barack Obama in 2015."

    Trump is a wrecking ball with no real brains, being used by Putin. Trump's been destroying & cheating good people ever since he was handed his first millions from daddy:

    "Fred Trump died in 1999 with an estimated net wealth between $250 million and $300 million according to a New York Times article at the time of death. While the specific amount Trump inherited from his father has not been revealed, a January 2016 article from the New York Times shows that Trump's will divided $20 million after taxes among his living children including Donald. Further, in 2003, it was reported that Donald and his siblings sold a portion of their father’s real estate holdings for around half a billion dollars. In addition to this inheritance, Trump’s father helped the mogul financially throughout his lifetime by giving him loans and access to trust funds, and establishing a wealth of real estate and political connections for his son."

    If only Trump had been born without money...We'd never have heard of him or Pai.
  13. JamesSWD

    JamesSWD TS Maniac Posts: 289   +169

    1) Trump was a successful billionaire before his parents died.
    2) <looking out window> Yep...Internet still there.
    3) Get your TDS under control.
    davislane1 likes this.
  14. GirlDownunder

    GirlDownunder TS Booster Posts: 102   +30


    You're one of those who've apparently never heard of the "frog in the pot", I'm taking it-- going by your comments here.

    Perhaps you've heard of the expression, "death by a thousand cuts"?

    You might not agree that things, re: net neutrality, are in a downward spiral and have a right to say that-- but you do NOT have a right to condescend to others here.

    PS: it's becoming harder to shock the American people as they are becoming less able to react to their loss of civil rights and liberty. You seem to be a supporter of a treasonous president. We'll see how that works out. A four hour "private" meeting with Putin. If you can't see how bad that is, no one can help you. Btw, TDS is a sane reaction to your country's downfall. If only it could stay contained within your own borders.
    gusticles41 likes this.
  15. Danny101

    Danny101 TS Guru Posts: 599   +233

    The U.S. has been on a downfall for a long time. Ever since Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act.
  16. GirlDownunder

    GirlDownunder TS Booster Posts: 102   +30

    I'd say it was more Nixon and end of the gold standard, followed by Reagan's BS-trickle-down lie which has never been slapped back as it ought to have been. That, and deregulation of banks, were the biggest downfalls, imho. It allowed the top-tier-sociopaths to begin their OCD-acquisition of everything. For them, there's never enough. They'll be sliding into an end-of-the-world crevice and will still be straining to reach a final coin in the dirt. Oh, and say hello to POTUS Putin for me....looks like I called that one right, unfortunately.

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