FDA advises people not to use THC vapes, black market vaping products

[captaincranky]

Well, nicotine in and of itself, is extremely toxic. Even with being slanted and spun by vaping concerns, the lethal dose is at most a gram to kill a full grown human. http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/blog/nicotine-high-toxicity-myth-destroyed.html

Here's what Wiki says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

The odd and counter intuitive facet of this topic id the fact that Vitamin E is toxic. It's actually a fat soluble alcohol. But, it's toxicity apparently varies wildly in regard to the route and manner of ingestion. So, putting into vape fluid as a solvent, most likely, "seemed like a good idea at the time". You can after all, smoke, inject, or administer intra-nasally, ("snort"), any number of opiate compounds without wild swings of toxicity.

In any case, y'all need to take a break. Relax, listen to some nice music.

So, in a desperate attempt to at least circle the topic, I'm presenting a music video, to highlight the paradox of perception presented in these posts. (That didn't start out to be alliterative, but what the hell, I went with it that way, if only to prove I can be as annoying as anyone else in this thread).

The Scottish great highland bagpipes are often considered annoying. But, under numerous circumstances they are nothing if not anthemic and majestic.

Here's Mark Knopfler *(Dire Straits guitarist), and the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, performing "Going Home", a film score song composed by Knopfler for the movie "Local Hero".

@wiyosaya Enjoy, it's very close to your favorite meter

 

[MaXtor]

Well, nicotine in and of itself, is extremely toxic. Even with being slanted and spun by vaping concerns, the lethal dose is at most a gram to kill a full grown human.

A lethal dose of caffeine is 10g. A Starbucks Blonde Roast contains 475mg. You'd pass the LD50 if you chugged down 21 of them. However unlikely, people have died from caffeine overdoses.

A lethal dose of nicotine is 1g. A high nicotine JUUL contains 50mg/ml in a 0.7ml pod = 35mg. You'd have to vape 29 pods in rapid succession. Luckily a JUUL is simply incapable vaping through the liquid anywhere close to quick enough to deliver enough nicotine for it to be lethal.

The only lethal risk is intentional misuse. You could physically break 29 pods open and drink the liquid. You could also drink a 60ml bottle of 20mg ejuice. Either way is purposely not using the product as intented and essentially a deliberate attempt at suicide.

 

[captaincranky]

A lethal dose of caffeine is 10g. A Starbucks Blonde Roast contains 475mg. You'd pass the LD50 if you chugged down 21 of them. However unlikely, people have died from caffeine overdoses.

A lethal dose of nicotine is 1g. A high nicotine JUUL contains 50mg/ml in a 0.7ml pod = 35mg. You'd have to vape 29 pods in rapid succession. Luckily a JUUL is simply incapable vaping through the liquid anywhere close to quick enough to deliver enough nicotine for it to be lethal.

The only lethal risk is intentional misuse. You could physically break 29 pods open and drink the liquid. You could also drink a 60ml bottle of 20mg ejuice. Either way is purposely not using the product as intented and essentially a deliberate attempt at suicide.

So, by your own admission, nicotine is times times as poisonous as caffeine.

Actually, I wan't interested all in that crap, which is why I didn't "entertain" joining this >yet another long winded vaping debate< in the first place. The pro vaping set is endlessly trying to defend it's POV, in a place where it can't possibly accomplish anything.

I guess it's much easier to annoy the living crap out of your Techspot brethren, than it is to organize a rally and go march on the Capitol.

My intended motive was to entertain @wiyosaya with the bagpipe piece, so I wrapped it in a pseudo-post on this ad nauseum discussion.

I guess somebody with COPD could kill themselves playing the bagpipes if they truly put their heart into it <(Pun intended)l.. But I really wasn't trying to start a suicide clinic either.

 

[MaXtor]

I guess it's much easier to annoy the living crap out of your Techspot brethren, than it is to organize a rally and go march on the Capitol.

There have been many rallies, though the media doesn't like to cover them.

A big rally is coming up on Saturday, November 9th, 2019, 12pm to 4pm.
At the Eclipse: 1450 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington DC
www.unitedvapersalliance.org

I guess somebody with COPD could kil themselves playing the bagpipes if they truly put their heart into it <(Pun intended)l.. But I really wasn't trying to start a suicide clinic either.

lol

 

[wiyosaya]

@captaincranky I saw Local Hero in the theater when it came out.