Fire-damaged ship carrying $401 million worth of luxury vehicles sinks into the Atlantic

[VitalyT]

 

[ZedRM]

I'm wondering as to why THIS news is on a TECH website? Seems out of place..

That last sentence speaks volumes.

True! This is one of the reasons EV's are so dangerous. Not a fan myself.

 

[gamerk2]

EV's are full of more toxic chemicals than any combustion engine vehicle. It's insane to think they are anything related to being environmentally friendly.

*sigh*

The total environment cost of an EV over the course of its lifetime has been studied time and again, and have been found to be an order of magnitude less then corresponding gas powered ones.

 

[gamerk2]

I'm wondering as to why THIS news is on a TECH website? Seems out of place..


True! This is one of the reasons EV's are so dangerous. Not a fan myself.

Shame Ford sold the patent for Nickle based batters to Aramco all those years ago; more promising (and less reactive) battery chemistry that can't be used or studied.

 

[lazer]

Crap, now I have to wait longer to buy my Bentley.... woo hoo!

 

[captaincranky]

They sunk it in water 10,000 meters deep!

I think you're confusing metric with imperial measurements. "10,000 feet", was the depth given, or about 3200 meters.

After all, the ship didn't go down in the Marianas Trench.

 

[mbk34]

"Oh the humanity!"

 

[scavengerspc]

True! This is one of the reasons EV's are so dangerous.

Since you obviously know, are EVs any more dangerous than gasoline vehicles?

 

[RF Match]

Since you obviously know, are EVs any more dangerous than gasoline vehicles?

I know, still sticking with my horse here....not leaving the 19th century.

 

[Sausagemeat]

I think you're confusing metric with imperial measurements. "10,000 feet", was the depth given, or about 3200 meters.

After all, the ship didn't go down in the Marianas Trench.

Ah yes so I did. Still it’s too deep to dive on.

 

[captaincranky]

Since you obviously know, are EVs any more dangerous than gasoline vehicles?

Dem danged 'lectrics is worse at settin' dey selfs afire den gittin' hit in the backside drivun a Pinto.

 

[merikafyeah]

Lithium battery fires are extremely persistent and if a bunch of similar EVs are next to each other, one vehicle catching on fire can ignite the adjacent cars setting off a chain reaction that would basically be unstoppable without a special foam or a crapton of sand, neither of which would have been available on a ship not designed for that contingency.

 

[Nintenboy01]

Them fish gonna have some sweet rides

 

[captaincranky]

I know, still sticking with my horse here....not leaving the 19th century.

They can be a whole lot prettier than a Bentley too:

I'm pretty sure they only got their bad reputation when Gypsies sold them second hand.

 

[dirtyferret]

They can be a whole lot prettier than a Bentley too:

I'm pretty sure they only got their bad reputation when Gypsies sold them second hand.

Are you kidding me? A Gypsy Vanner? You know the kind of green house gases that horse emits? You will get far more miles per oat out of a Shetland Pony, help save the environment, and stick it to the Quaker Oats Company!

 

[captaincranky]

Are you kidding me? A Gypsy Vanner? You know the kind of green house gases that horse emits? You will get far more miles per oat out of a Shetland Pony, help save the environment, and stick it to the Quaker Oats Company!

Not to go "too far off topic", but when I was looking for photos, I ran into articles about people breeding miniature vanners. They have gotten them down to about 10 hands. I think one breeder was putting ponies into the mix.

Although, (by "word of internet", no personal experience), the draft breeds are supposed to get more "miles per oat", than other. breeds. That could be measured in pounds per day as a percentage of weight though..

Back to topic, lithium mining creates a huge environmental impact, as opposed to one pet farting horse

 

[netman]

The ship looks nothing but a giant ferry...! From the photos it appears it was hit by a missile...!

 

[koblongata]

That and the EV that probably caused the fire.

 

[Irata]

View attachment 88235

I am not claiming that combustion engine powered cars do not catch on fire. The question is: What‘s the percentage of new(er) vehicles that catch on fire while parked / doing nothing.

The leading causes of vehicle fires were mechanical failures or malfunctions and electrical failures or malfunctions. Older vehicles accounted for three-quarters of the highway vehicle fires caused by mechanical or electrical failures or malfunctions. Maintenance is important throughout the vehicle’s years of use.
Collisions were the leading cause of vehicle fires that resulted in death.

https://www.nfpa.org/-/media/Files/News-and-Research/Fire-statistics-and-reports/US-Fire-Problem/osvehiclefires.pdf

 

[captaincranky]

Shame Ford sold the patent for Nickle based batters to Aramco all those years ago; more promising (and less reactive) battery chemistry that can't be used or studied.

I hope none of this refers to nickel cadmium tech. Because were the most finicky, ornery, self shorting, charge memory retaining, pieces of sh!t that ever were.

As for lithium batteries , "Li-Po" are the worst for starting fires. Used mainly in drones and RC aircraft, you're supposed to do any quick charging, inside a fireproof bag.

OTOH, just be thankful that nobody has ever developed a battery electrolyte based on phosphorus.

 

[captaincranky]

How about if we wrap this up with a soundtrack?
This is a tune I've always wished I was in a cover band, so I could play it at children's birthday parties.

 

[gamerk2]

I hope none of this refers to nickel cadmium tech. Because were the most finicky, ornery, self shorting, charge memory retaining, pieces of sh!t that ever were.

As for lithium batteries , "Li-Po" are the worst for starting fires. Used mainly in drones and RC aircraft, you're supposed to do any quick charging, inside a fireproof bag.

OTOH, just be thankful that nobody has ever developed a battery electrolyte based on phosphorus.

It's a higher capacity version of what Toyota uses in the Prius; they got some sort of exception so long as their battery capacity remained below a certain threshold (I forget the details offhand).

 

[scavengerspc]

What‘s the percentage of new(er) vehicles that catch on fire while parked / doing nothing.

Great. Now they want to parse when they burn.

Here is the article from the picture above.

Study: Hybrids, ICE Cars Far More Likely Than EVs To Catch Fire

The data says hybrids are the most prone to catching fire, while EVs are the least prone, although when they do catch fire, they are harder to put out.

insideevs.com

Here is a government study for you to ignore.

Government data show gasoline vehicles are up to 100x more prone to fires than EVs

Aside from the argument that gasoline vehicles operate via combustion, a study shows how prevalent gas vehicle fires are compared to EVs.

electrek.co

BUT, it should be mentioned that even though water will put them out, it takes a lot of it and patience because they put up a fight. When I bought my EV (Focus) to play around with, I also bought a few copper based extinguishers. Just in case.

 

[captaincranky]

Great. Now they want to parse when they burn.

You're remiss if you don't supply the make, model, model year, time of day, month, year, and GPS location, of each vehicle fire...

 

[DAOWAce]

Yet more ocean pollution, just what we didn't need.

I expect another oil rig/pipe fault this year too.