Graphics cards could become even more expensive following GDDR6 price rise

yRaz

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People have no choice. If your card breaks down you're hosed.
They do have a choice, they could not play videogames. Yeah, this sucks, but there isn't anything they can do about it. Raw materials for manufacturing are sky high, there is a labor shortage thus increased labor costs and there is the supply and demand issue.

It sucks but get over it. Go outside if your graphics card breaks, goodness knows people need to if they get this worked up when they can't play videogames
 

B5S46M

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Hmmm only 2? I think you should consider getting a third just in case, never hurts, and you can then start commenting you have 3 of them, it really seems to get to some people, maybe leave the third one in it's box and have it on display. I've grown to expect and enjoy these comments, GPU articles wouldn't be the same without the mandatory brag post.

Just stop feeding the troll. Blocking trolls is basically the only reason I stay logged in.
 

duckofdeath

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They do have a choice, they could not play videogames. Yeah, this sucks, but there isn't anything they can do about it. Raw materials for manufacturing are sky high, there is a labor shortage thus increased labor costs and there is the supply and demand issue.

It sucks but get over it. Go outside if your graphics card breaks, goodness knows people need to if they get this worked up when they can't play videogames
All lies. Smoke and mirrors to deflect from TSMC's big con. The volumes are similar so why is there suddenly a shortage of raw materials and personnel? Another lie to help their price gouging keep going.
At some point, the ecosystem will collapse when the lack of supply strangles the demand. Then you have an economy that will collapse in on itself.
 

yRaz

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All lies. Smoke and mirrors to deflect from TSMC's big con. The volumes are similar so why is there suddenly a shortage of raw materials and personnel? Another lie to help their price gouging keep going.
At some point, the ecosystem will collapse when the lack of supply strangles the demand. Then you have an economy that will collapse in on itself.
Source?
 

duckofdeath

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There was a report last week that the total sales of dedicated graphics cards only went up 7% year over year, in the first quarter. Both AMD and Nvidia have re-issued legacy cards to be able to sell something. It's easy to see that there's virtually no supply of current generation cards.
I have personally reached out to several retailers and they all say the same, "there's no supply because they get little to no deliveries from manufacturers".
 

yRaz

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There was a report last week that the total sales of dedicated graphics cards only went up 7% year over year, in the first quarter. Both AMD and Nvidia have re-issued legacy cards to be able to sell something. It's easy to see that there's virtually no supply of current generation cards.
I have personally reached out to several retailers and they all say the same, "there's no supply because they get little to no deliveries from manufacturers".
How are sales up 7% in there aren't any cards to sell?
 

duckofdeath

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I did read what you wrote, nothing you said made any sense and you didn't provide anything you said with a source
Since you spend so much time arguing on the internet, how about spending a bit of that reading the news instead?
 

captaincranky

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The sales volumes of cards using high performance memory has most likely dropped the last year. The total sales of dedicated graphics cards have gone up a measly 7% year over year. This includes sales of previously legacy budget cards.

It is high time for governments to stop this price gouging of consumers with all sorts of lies about mining and scalping.

Wow, a conspiracy theorist,with paranoid delusions of being the best reader ever..! Just what this place needed to lighten the mood, (or not). :rolleyes:
 

duckofdeath

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Wow, a conspiracy theorist,with paranoid delusions of being the best reader ever..! Just what this place needed to lighten the mood, (or not). :rolleyes:
It's now a conspiracy theory that retailers haven't had any stock for a year now? How delusional are you TSMC huggers?
The last time your computer store had this few graphics cards in stock was in the early 80's, when they didn't exist.
 

captaincranky

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It's now a conspiracy theory that retailers haven't had any stock for a year now? How delusional are you TSMC huggers?
There are two "patent statements of the obvious" that you're apparently unable to grasp.

Video cards are not in stock, because they've all been sold. That's patently stating the obvious.

TSMC, is not a government agency, and certainly not a wing of the US. That's an obvious truth.


Now if you want to say, "foreign corporations, are conspiring to create an environment where price fixing is possible", I'm on board with that.

How about if I throw in another truth free of charge? While you have tried to use, "big words", to cloak a basic concept, which is, "what's the matter, can't you read". I understand you in context. I, "catch your drift", so to speak However you choose to express that sentiment, it's rude, condescending, ignorant, and uncalled for, as well as being patently untrue.

As far as all the horsesh!t you're blowing up about us "having poor reading comprehension", and the government, (which government, or is it all governments?) is/are behind these shortages, that's where we get into the realm where you're just making things up, or, "entertaining conspiracy theories", as it were.

So, did Mitch McConnell buy up all the VGA back stock, or is someone else higher up involved? Or might there be a naval blockade in force preventing shipments of video cards reaching US soil? Or is it possible you've merely confused yourself with a methamphetamine overdose?

In any event, how about if you curtail the ad hominem insults and lashing out for no apparent reason, other than we don't fully agree with you?
 
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duckofdeath

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There are two "patent statements of the obvious" that you're apparently unable to grasp.

Video cards are not in stock, because they've all been sold. That's patently stating the obvious.

TSMC, is not a government agency, and certainly not a wing of the US. That's an obvious truth.


Now if you want to say, "foreign corporations, are conspiring to create an environment where price fixing is possible", I'm on board with that.

How about if I throw in another truth free of charge? While you have tried to use, "big words", to cloak a basic concept, which is, "what's the matter, can't you read". I understand you in context. I, "catch your drift", so to speak However you choose to express that sentiment, it's rude, condescending, ignorant, and uncalled for, as well as being patently untrue.

As far as all the horsesh!t you're blowing up about us "having poor reading comprehension", and the government, (which government, or is it all governments?) is/are behind these shortages, that's where we get into the realm where you're just making things up, or, "entertaining conspiracy theories", as it were.

So, did Mitch McConnell buy up all the VGA back stock, or is someone else higher up involved? Or might there be a naval blockade in force preventing shipments of video cards reaching US soil? Or is it possible you've merely confused yourself with a methamphetamine overdose?

In any event, how about if you curtail the ad hominem insults and lashing out for no apparent reason, other than we don't fully agree with you?
Your lies are, again, easily debunked by any source. Contact any retailer and ask them why they don't sell current generation graphics cards. Specifically current generation AMD cards. If they're selling like hot cakes, they'd be visible high up on Steam's GPU charts. Not one single, current AMD card even registers on anything else than laptops.

This has been going on for a year, not a month, not a launch window but a full product cycle year. TSMC has severe manufacturing issues that they're trying to cover up by spamming all sorts of lies on the internet.

I truly hope TSMC will get heavily fined and sanctioned over their greedy behaviour the last year, as this is at risk cause severe damage to the global economy as it doesn't only affect your gaming rig.
 

captaincranky

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I truly hope TSMC will get heavily fined and sanctioned over their greedy behaviour the last year, as this is at risk cause severe damage to the global economy as it doesn't only affect your gaming rig.
"TSMC" is NOT a government agency, get that through your thick head.
 

captaincranky

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It is high time for governments to stop this price gouging of consumers with all sorts of lies about mining and scalping.
Do you see where you're suggesting that government is "colluding with TSMC" . "Overlooking, ignoring, turning a blind eye", etc

If you're Jonesing for a video card that badly, why don't you hit up the dark web, and see if you can buy yourself a scalper bot? It's gotta be cheaper than paying double MSRP from a scalper.

Nobody expected the way the new AMD line would take off. After all they were an industry joke, for the better part of a decade. So, did TSMC knowingly "bite off more than they could chew"? Perhaps, but perhaps not. After all, with the mining sales, where you used to have one video card per customer, now you might have dozens ordered per customer

As for the "lies, lies, and more lies", part of your argument, TSMC will obviously spin the situation to their advantage as best they can. It's just not the bizarre, "web of lies conspiracy", you're hysterically making it out to be.

But yes, AMD or whoever, will cater to their OEM partners first, before sating one whiny gamer, who they're well aware, will make everyone's life they contact a living hell, if they don't get a new video card. That's just the way it is. Does any of this register with you?

You should call TSMC, and tell them to get their sh!t together, because you know what's what. After all, they're probably not aware of just how important of a person they're screwing over.
 
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Cycloid Torus

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@captaincranky "The total sales of dedicated graphics cards have gone up a measly 7% year over year. This includes sales of previously legacy budget cards." Still makes me wonder. The supply chain mess is probably the root cause and that based on errors in forecasting, but you would think that this is nearly straightened out by now.

So, are the dire forecasts real - or, fluff to excuse and maintain artificially high prices?
 

captaincranky

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@captaincranky "The total sales of dedicated graphics cards have gone up a measly 7% year over year. This includes sales of previously legacy budget cards." Still makes me wonder. The supply chain mess is probably the root cause and that based on errors in forecasting, but you would think that this is nearly straightened out by now.

So, are the dire forecasts real - or, fluff to excuse and maintain artificially high prices?
Well, price fixing, as well as low wafer yields due to the extremely narrow process widths, have both likely "conspired" to keep prices artificially high.

Keep in mind the "7% YoY number", can only by counted by the number of cards actually sold and delivered. A which point, the demographics of those lucky individuals managing to get a card, are still under activescrutiny and debate.

TSMC's overall output of wafers, in turn, has to be proportioned between product type. After all, if you can't buy a CPU, what earthly good is a having GPU going to do anyway? I would have to imagine that AMD's meteoric rise in CPU sales, has to be factored in as well.
 
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