Here's how to bypass Windows 11's TPM and CPU requirements

BSim500

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If TPM will be used to curb cheaters in games, I'm all for it.
I doubt it will be used for that. Secure boot has a better chance of doing it than TPM since it could potentially stop cheats that load before the OS's kernel.
And all the cheaters will do is move onto the new stuff - Take two PC's. PC A is used for gaming whilst PC B is setup like a streaming rig. Connect PC A via HDMI to PC B's dedicated HDMI capture card. Insert a special device into PC A's USB port that presents itself to PC A purely as a genuine USB mouse / controller with correctly faked HID / HWID's, etc, whilst having a low-latency passthrough to a real mouse / controller plus a priority input for aim-assistance input commands via a USB connection to PC B (invisible to PC A). Use software on PC B (which could be running W7-10 or Linux) to visually analyse the HDMI input, apply low-latency pattern recognition (what you want to aim at), then feed commands down the USB cable to the fake mouse / controller "auto-aiming". Commands can be varied enough so that it enhances aim just enough to win but not look like it's doing so at the same rate / way every time. And absolute zero software is installed on PC A (the only PC the game / anti-cheat software sees).

^ Completely undetectable, also works for cheating on consoles (in place of PC A) and already in use (link)... So TPM has already failed at stopping cheaters because the new advanced cheats just use an invisible 2nd PC that works without TPM, SecureBoot or even Windows (actually a preferable method since they can then now sell the new undetectable stuff to console players).
 
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Puiu

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And all the cheaters will do is move onto the new stuff - Take two PC's. PC A is used for gaming whilst PC B is setup like a streaming rig. Connect PC A via HDMI to PC B's dedicated HDMI capture card. Insert a special device into PC A's USB port that presents itself to PC A purely as a genuine USB mouse / controller with correctly faked HID / HWID's, etc, whilst having a low-latency passthrough to a real mouse / controller plus a priority input for aim-assistance input commands via a USB connection to PC B (invisible to PC A). Use software on PC B (which could be running W7-10 or Linux) to visually analyse the HDMI input, apply low-latency pattern recognition (what you want to aim at), then feed commands down the USB cable to the fake mouse / controller "auto-aiming". Commands can be varied enough so that it enhances aim just enough to win but not look like it's doing so at the same rate / way every time. And absolute zero software is installed on PC A (the only PC the game / anti-cheat software sees).

^ Completely undetectable, also works for cheating on consoles (in place of PC A) and already in use (link)... So TPM has already failed at stopping cheaters because the new advanced cheats just use an invisible 2nd PC that works without TPM, SecureBoot or even Windows (actually a preferable method since they can then now sell the new undetectable stuff to console players).
TPM was never meant to stop cheaters, it's for encrypting data :)
And Secure Boot only works if the user doesn't intentionally bypass it.
 

Nestea

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TPM was never meant to stop cheaters, it's for encrypting data :)
And Secure Boot only works if the user doesn't intentionally bypass it.
yea. seems like SB or TPM won't be able to do much.
while looking for the articles that talked about TPM and cheating:
one of the many https://www.techspot.com/news/91177-microsoft-details-why-windows-11-faster-than-windows.html

I ran into this https://www.reddit.com/r/CODWarzone/comments/oiqzm2 starts with BuntStiftLecker.

@BSim500 not sure if what you're describing is that AI thing that runs on another PC but console players already have certain devices. zenimax cronos or w/e it's called. AFAIK it doesn't have autoaim but you have advantages.

I really wish there was something for the PC that verifies the whole machine with the games server maybe. like a pcie card or usb device.
 
I have a 32 GB / 9th gen processor. I'm not upgrading until it's end of life, because these requirements interfere with my dual boot. F U microsoft, just keep your windows 11 BS I will find another OS.
 

Dimitrios

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I have a 32 GB / 9th gen processor. I'm not upgrading until it's end of life, because these requirements interfere with my dual boot. F U microsoft, just keep your windows 11 BS I will find another OS.
It's like they just don't care anymore. Almost like they are doing this on purpose. Reminds me of SOUTHPARK with that CABLE episode.
 
Microsoft has officially announced that Windows 11 will be available on October 5, 2021.
I bought Windows 11 Pro from Keyingo.com at a good price and it works normally
 

tonylukac

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We have tollways in Illinois & lifeless creatures that bring good luck to some but bad luck to me as a rideshare driver like at the Morton arboretum (the salt company owns it) & at these bingo games. What you're installing here is a bypass trollway. I swear the tollway wasn't there one day thus you have a throw away tollway (like throw away cars due to no chips nor mechanics.) Trolls (people living under bridges like in r. r. tolken) seem to be homeless people. High tech parts of this system photograph you if you miss a toll (no longer takes coins tho; there for scofflaws) & you have 10 days to pay the toll(s) on the web or you get a notice mailed to you with a fine of about $5. The chicago tribune wanted the fine to be $100 & it was for a while. Open road tolling detects a transponder in the car & deducts the toll eventually from your debit/credit card installed by a governor who went to jail, rod blagojevich. I heard lots of people don't pay suffering no penalty to crowding rush hour traffic pretending the roads to nowhere prove the area is more prosperous than it is. Quit crowding the traffic, making pollution, & burning valuable fuel.
 
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ZipperBoi

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Why do I get the feeling that Windows 11 is going to go the way of Windows 8 and 8.1? An OS nobody wanted or asked for and was ultimately designed for a smaller subset of Windows users as opposed to the general user base. Will be an after thought in 2 to 3 years.
 

Tantor

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Why do I get the feeling that Windows 11 is going to go the way of Windows 8 and 8.1? An OS nobody wanted or asked for and was ultimately designed for a smaller subset of Windows users as opposed to the general user base. Will be an after thought in 2 to 3 years.

I agree. There's no point in adopting 11. Most likely 12 will be the real LTS version.
 
I did a clean install of W11 Pro on an 8 year old laptop with an i5-3437U, Secure Boot Enabled, UEFI mode but TPM disabled. And guess what? It installed just fine. No warnings, remarks, hardware checks or anything. It just went straight through. And all updates were also working, no problem. Don't know if the will keep working, but if they do a clean install seems to be the simple solution to a problem thats presented as a lot more complex on a lot of sites.
 

ddferrari

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With Windows 10 still being supported until 10/2025, I'll just kick back and see how 11 goes. I'm not seeing any compelling reasons to upgrade right away, from what I've read.

I'm keeping Updates set to Paused, not Auto, as always. Then I can select what MS puts on my rig. But you have to remember to check often for security updates, etc!

Everything I've read indicates this will NOT be a mandatory (or sneaky) update. You will have to give it permission, for now.
 
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So how about this. I have a 2017 Intel NUC running a 7th Gen i5 processor, but has TPM 2.0 and UEFI Secure boot enabled.
Using the Microsoft PC Health Check Tool, it failed the Windows 11 upgrade test due to an unsupported processor as I expected.
Imagine my suprise when a few days ago, I turned on my PC to see a Windows Update message that Windows 11 was installing on my PC!
After about 30 minutes, Windows 11 was downloaded and installed and my machine booted up perfectly sporting Windows 11..!
In the last few days, Windows 11 is working fine with several updates already issued and installed and no problems at all so far..
Has anyone else been automatically issued a Windows 11 update unexpectedly on a 7th Gen Intel processor?