Hidden underground hydrogen reserves could power the entire Earth for centuries

Sure -- just as soon as you stop using all electricity and fuels derived from oil and gas, along with all subsidiary plastics, pharmaceuticals, and other products made from hydrocarbon mining.

Get right on that, will you?
I have solar on my roof, I drive a Ford Lightning, all of my wellhead meters use solar, all our field tools are battery operated, and my company doesn't frack. I'm doing better than you. Edit: I winterize my wells too, so I was still offering fuel to Texas energy providers during the freeze of 2021.
 
Before you go discounting batteries for cars.
Before you discount windmills and solar panels and say look these are bad for the environment too etc. etc. etc.

Be sure you really understand just how bad oil extraction, refining, storage, piping, and burning/using is for environment.

People do not get cancer from lithium or lithium processing but they do from oil refining.
People do not get asthma from batteries, but they from breathing diesel exhaust.
Downwind areas or "fallout zones" around refining plants and coal fired power plants are well known for a host of medical issues not seen further away.

And in the end, lithium mining is typically just refining salt water. Its not dangerous at all.
Nickle, chromium, cobalt etc. are definitely bad but still not as bad as coal or oil.

Coal and oil are the WORST even if climate change is not a thing and using them has no effect on the climate.
I think you and other posters here are confusing climate change denial with denial that human activity is the major driver behind climate change.
 
"As global efforts to combat climate change intensify, <---------No, such thing as Global Climate Change by human beings, to the degree these fools are talking about. NO, doubt there is climate change, which are ongoing changes by our earth.



LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT RIGHT

NONE.

ZIP.

ZERO.

NADA.

BLANK

DONUT HOLE

NIL.

NOTHING.

VOID.

ZILCH.

LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT WRONG

Here is the source for numbers 1-27. As you will see, the individual sources are not crackpots, but scientific studies and media reports on “expert” predictions. The sources for numbers 28-41 are linked individually.

1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!

UPDATE:

42. 1975: The Cooling World and a Drastic Decline in Food Production
43. 1969: Worldwide Plague, Overwhelming Pollution, Ecological Catastrophe, Virtual Collapse of UK by End of 20th Century
44. 1972: Pending Depletion and Shortages of Gold, Tin, Oil, Natural Gas, Copper, Aluminum
45. 1970: Oceans Dead in a Decade, US Water Rationing by 1974, Food Rationing by 1980
46. 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018
47. 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020
48. 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past
49.1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming
50. 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter

Search this story header if you want to read the new article. "Nolte: Climate ‘Experts" Are 0-41 with Their Doomsday Predictions *UPDATE 0-53*" It was done by the online news outlet "Breitbart"
 
It's incredibly disingenuous to compare a wild estimate (of hydrogen) to known proven reserves of oil and gas. Since 1965, we've discovered more than 5 new barrels of oil for every 3 we've consumed, a process that's likely to continue further.

It's even more absurd when one considers this hydrogen estimate comes largely from the assumption of abiotic production processes deep within the earth. If those do indeed exist, then those same processes will also produce abiotic oil and gas (an assumption Soviet scientists first proposed in the 1950s) meaning the earth's stocks of fossil fuels are hundreds of times larger than current estimates.

But by far the largest problem here isn't the estimate size, but the sheer inability to economically collect 99.9% of the hydrogen anyway. Your average square meter of topsoil in your own backyard contains many valuable elements: iron, nickel, aluminum, rare earths ... even gold, palladium, and uranium. But a few stray molecules here and there aren't anywhere near enough to make collection viable.
Even MORE ABSURD is that you think even more reserves of oil and gas is a good thing considering that is exactly what has got us into the s*** with climate change. You seem blissfully unaware of the problem.
 
That solar fusion reactor in the sky will continue to provide us with FREE ENERGY and heat for the next 4 Billion years.

We could be using solar energy to help produce hydrogen through electrolysis with regular sea water.

The move to electric vehicles makes the most sense. We can continue to install solar in as many places as possible to help the electric grid and provide shade/shelter. Then add charging stations - level 2 and level 3 where appropriate. Continue to push for nuclear power and alternative energy.

Electrical furnaces and electrical appliances.

But none of that changes the fact that when you have less expensive energy, it drives human population growth and its possible some people don't want that.
I think one of the biggest issues is government red tape along with EV manufacturers (and specifically the cheap ones) that are both deliberately preventing V2H and V2G when every electric vehicle made these days easily has this capability already. But it's blocked for no reason whatsoever, and pay-walled behind EV's that cost over 6 figures, when this bidirectional tech should already be every EV owner's right.

Most households use half their energy during the 16 hours of no solar sunlight. All EV batteries are usually around 40-80kWh which can run most houses at night for several days easily.

Anyone with a cheap EV should be able to have free electricity from their own rooftop solar, and be allowed to freely store it in their own vehicle's battery, and freely use it at will. And then you'll find they'll often have plenty of excess, which they can send to the grid to share around with other heavy users who can't export, or with daytime drivers who can't charge from their solar on weekdays.

Everyone would be incentivised to have a low-end cheap EV, because not only will their fuel be free, but their electricity would also be free, or almost. Power plants would literally not have to do anything, except just keep a little coal reserves for emergency occasions or whatever, but essentially the population themselves would be generating/storing the entire world's energy usage all on their own, just from their own roof solar and own EV.

And it would be almost 'free'. Since the EV would replace the car, the battery is essentially free. Solar panels last 25 years and are fairly cheap. Inverters often run for 10 years. And the EV battery if auto-implemented with a 10-20% reserve and proper cooling, should last 20 years with minimal degradation. Some 10-year old teslas still have 80-90% battery capacity after 100k miles, simply because they were actually made properly, and not like the older non-cooled nissan leaf batteries that were easily abused into scrap after just 10 years.

Also, the government should increase the allowable household solar limits from 5-10kW up to about 20kW in my opinion. This way weekday workers can charge their EV just on sunny weekends and still get up to about 200kWh of energy just from those two days alone.

If electricity was free like this, more charging stations would open up everywhere, meaning more EV ownership, and the whole global energy system would very quickly just end up being entirely free with so much excess energy left over every day, that the power companies will have no way of using it all.

But it all boils down to EV manufacturer greed, plus government red tape, along with energy giants complicity, that has been preventing this free electricity for nearly a decade. It's just sad really. And yeah, sure we have new tech like hydrogen, nuclear, plasma, solid state batteries, etc., but my point is, we don't actually even need any of these, because we can already get almost free global energy and free global fuel right now with just rooftop solar and EV batteries right now, but we simply choose not to.
 
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This discovery is truly amazing! Finding such a vast amount of hydrogen beneath the Earth's surface could revolutionize the energy industry. Not only would it help reduce reliance on fossil fuels, but it also provides a pathway to achieving global carbon reduction goals. Especially considering that this natural hydrogen can be easily accessible without the need for storage concerns. With this great potential, it truly brings hope for a cleaner and more sustainable energy future.
We were talking about AI bots , spotted. Who would write this lol ?
 
However, the exact locations of these hydrogen reserves remain unknown,...

Well, if that wasn't just a buzz kill?

Too bad mining, transportation & production of hydrogen is extremely dangerous and expensive. Around 30% of hydrogen's energy content is lost to the liquefication process. And around another 10+% is lost to storage as boil-off (depending on storage time).
 
The use of any fuel depletes the oxygen content of the atmosphere, with one exception: hydrogen produced from water.

No worries, we have PLENTY: The most abundant element in the Earth's crust is oxygen, making up 46.6% of Earth's mass.
 
Before you go discounting batteries for cars.
Before you discount windmills and solar panels and say look these are bad for the environment too etc. etc. etc.

Be sure you really understand just how bad oil extraction, refining, storage, piping, and burning/using is for environment.

People do not get cancer from lithium or lithium processing but they do from oil refining.
People do not get asthma from batteries, but they from breathing diesel exhaust.
Downwind areas or "fallout zones" around refining plants and coal fired power plants are well known for a host of medical issues not seen further away.

And in the end, lithium mining is typically just refining salt water. Its not dangerous at all.
Nickle, chromium, cobalt etc. are definitely bad but still not as bad as coal or oil.

Coal and oil are the WORST even if climate change is not a thing and using them has no effect on the climate.

That you Xi Jinping?
 
I think one of the biggest issues is government red tape along with EV manufacturers (and specifically the cheap ones) that are both deliberately preventing V2H and V2G when every electric vehicle made these days easily has this capability already. But it's blocked for no reason whatsoever, and pay-walled behind EV's that cost over 6 figures, when this bidirectional tech should already be every EV owner's right.

Most households use half their energy during the 16 hours of no solar sunlight. All EV batteries are usually around 40-80kWh which can run most houses at night for several days easily.

Anyone with a cheap EV should be able to have free electricity from their own rooftop solar, and be allowed to freely store it in their own vehicle's battery, and freely use it at will. And then you'll find they'll often have plenty of excess, which they can send to the grid to share around with other heavy users who can't export, or with daytime drivers who can't charge from their solar on weekdays.

Everyone would be incentivised to have a low-end cheap EV, because not only will their fuel be free, but their electricity would also be free, or almost. Power plants would literally not have to do anything, except just keep a little coal reserves for emergency occasions or whatever, but essentially the population themselves would be generating/storing the entire world's energy usage all on their own, just from their own roof solar and own EV.

And it would be almost 'free'. Since the EV would replace the car, the battery is essentially free. Solar panels last 25 years and are fairly cheap. Inverters often run for 10 years. And the EV battery if auto-implemented with a 10-20% reserve and proper cooling, should last 20 years with minimal degradation. Some 10-year old teslas still have 80-90% battery capacity after 100k miles, simply because they were actually made properly, and not like the older non-cooled nissan leaf batteries that were easily abused into scrap after just 10 years.

Also, the government should increase the allowable household solar limits from 5-10kW up to about 20kW in my opinion. This way weekday workers can charge their EV just on sunny weekends and still get up to about 200kWh of energy just from those two days alone.

If electricity was free like this, more charging stations would open up everywhere, meaning more EV ownership, and the whole global energy system would very quickly just end up being entirely free with so much excess energy left over every day, that the power companies will have no way of using it all.

But it all boils down to EV manufacturer greed, plus government red tape, along with energy giants complicity, that has been preventing this free electricity for nearly a decade. It's just sad really. And yeah, sure we have new tech like hydrogen, nuclear, plasma, solid state batteries, etc., but my point is, we don't actually even need any of these, because we can already get almost free global energy and free global fuel right now with just rooftop solar and EV batteries right now, but we simply choose not to.

You talked yourself right into that, huh?
 
You talked yourself right into that, huh?
I'm all for gas guzzling over solar, but one will always cost, while the other can easily be almost free. That is until multiple countries strike the motherload of oil, causing gas prices to drop by 90%, then it would be on par with the potential of solar/EV. Most people can't see it, but the real math is there, and math simply doesn't lie.

Over 20 years, why would someone pay 40k for home electricity, plus 40k for gas in their car? When instead they can pay 5k for solar/inverter, plus zero for gas in their EV? The math of 80k versus 5k is really a no-brainer if I'm being honest.
 
Oops! This fallacy is based on the fact that, while we've been studying the dangers of hydrocarbons for centuries, lithium mining is new and little researched. But not wholly unstudied:

Journal of Occupational Medicine and Toxicology:

"...The results of this review suggest that occupational and environmental exposure to mining metals used in [lithium ion batteries] presents significant risks to human health that result in both acute and chronic toxicities....Lithium mining has been shown to increase the concentration of other heavy metals, such as arsenic, in surrounding surface water....."

Journal of Environmental Pollution:

"... soil contamination with Li can reach the food chain due to its mobility in surface- and ground-waters and uptake into plants. High environmental Li levels adversely affect the health of humans, animals, and plants....."
NYTimes:
"...the [proposed Nevada mine], known as Lithium Americas, has drawn protests from Native American tribes, ranchers and environmental groups because it is expected to use billions of gallons of precious ground water, potentially contaminating some of it for 300 years, while leaving behind a giant mound of waste....Production of raw materials like lithium, cobalt and nickel that are essential to these technologies are often ruinous to land, water, wildlife and people....":
I think the most objective thing would be to agree that all ways to get power could result in problems for human health and nature.
I only want to be able to see the objective info presented from both sides.
People pick a side and ready to swear it is best safest and the one we must choose right now.
Absolutes are usually mistaken.
 
Even MORE ABSURD is that you think even more reserves of oil and gas is a good thing considering that is exactly what has got us into the s*** with climate change. You seem blissfully unaware of the problem.
What's most absurd of all is that you're using a computer powered by fossil fuels, using an Internet powered by fossil fuels, to claim they're a bad thing for mankind. Your desk, computer case, and the chair you're sitting in likely have parts made from petrochemicals -- the very food you're eating is grown with fertilizers produced with petrochemicals. Your clothes are washed with detergent made from it, along with things ranging from rubber tires to aspirin and toothpaste to enamel paint and many drugs. Go virtue signal elsewhere.
 
What's most absurd of all is that you're using a computer powered by fossil fuels, using an Internet powered by fossil fuels, to claim they're a bad thing for mankind. Your desk, computer case, and the chair you're sitting in likely have parts made from petrochemicals -- the very food you're eating is grown with fertilizers produced with petrochemicals. Your clothes are washed with detergent made from it, along with things ranging from rubber tires to aspirin and toothpaste to enamel paint and many drugs. Go virtue signal elsewhere.
It's easier to parrot the party line than to actually research something. The "end drilling now" fools are the epitome of ignorance and stupidity.
 
What I don't get is when they say quit logging and save/plant trees and for net zero emissions or whatever, but then when a fire wipes out half a forest, or a tornado/hurricane vaporizes thousands of homes/goods that have to be entirely re-manufactured, letting off a million times more emissions from a single day, they suddenly go silent about how much emissions they have been unable to prevent regardless of their tiresome efforts all throughout the year which have just been shattered in one day with a single disaster.

And then they say quit plastic, but there is more plastic within the paint on the walls of their unecessarily oversized holiday home, than a lifetime of disposable plastic usage of someone whose life can actually geuinely benefit from the time-saving and convenience of bags. Maybe more concern should be focused around improving landfill containment, rather than over the 0.001% of aquatic life that fancy shiny plastics before they become a shark's meal next week.

And they end up using thicker bags or paper bags which get thrown out fairly quickly anyway but cost double the amount of fossil fuel burning to manufacture because they're thicker. It's all just pretense, because at the end of the day, human nature is always all about convenience and comfort, and nothing is going to change that. But if they think they're kind to the environment at least they can sleep better at night while living large (even though the math entirely disagrees).
 
I'm all for gas guzzling over solar, but one will always cost, while the other can easily be almost free. That is until multiple countries strike the motherload of oil, causing gas prices to drop by 90%, then it would be on par with the potential of solar/EV. Most people can't see it, but the real math is there, and math simply doesn't lie.

Over 20 years, why would someone pay 40k for home electricity, plus 40k for gas in their car? When instead they can pay 5k for solar/inverter, plus zero for gas in their EV? The math of 80k versus 5k is really a no-brainer if I'm being honest.
There is no such thing as a free ride. Solar systems break and the repairs are costly. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for solar but the cost is too high. I was quoted $60k for a REAL system on my house. Our utility bill averages ~$175/month. That's almost 30 years of electricity and I didn't have to worry about or pay for maintaining a solar system - which most definitely would have went through 3 rounds of battery replacement and also the replacement of panels and other parts that failed over 30 years.
 
What I don't get is when they say quit logging and save/plant trees and for net zero emissions or whatever, but then when a fire wipes out half a forest, or a tornado/hurricane vaporizes thousands of homes/goods that have to be entirely re-manufactured, letting off a million times more emissions from a single day, they suddenly go silent about how much emissions they have been unable to prevent regardless of their tiresome efforts all throughout the year which have just been shattered in one day with a single disaster.

And then they say quit plastic, but there is more plastic within the paint on the walls of their unecessarily oversized holiday home, than a lifetime of disposable plastic usage of someone whose life can actually geuinely benefit from the time-saving and convenience of bags. Maybe more concern should be focused around improving landfill containment, rather than over the 0.001% of aquatic life that fancy shiny plastics before they become a shark's meal next week.

And they end up using thicker bags or paper bags which get thrown out fairly quickly anyway but cost double the amount of fossil fuel burning to manufacture because they're thicker. It's all just pretense, because at the end of the day, human nature is always all about convenience and comfort, and nothing is going to change that. But if they think they're kind to the environment at least they can sleep better at night while living large (even though the math entirely disagrees).
Embarrassingly, California has released far more "carbon" from fires than they have "saved" with their misguided initiatives. Yet they refuse to build firewalls in the name of saving an obscure toad. The insanity is next level!
 
There is no such thing as a free ride. Solar systems break and the repairs are costly. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for solar but the cost is too high. I was quoted $60k for a REAL system on my house. Our utility bill averages ~$175/month. That's almost 30 years of electricity and I didn't have to worry about or pay for maintaining a solar system - which most definitely would have went through 3 rounds of battery replacement and also the replacement of panels and other parts that failed over 30 years.
That's precisely the issue. The $60k number is a direct result of government/energy red tape plus EV manufacturer greed.

Half of that $60k would be the battery and battery management/integration, which is easily abused into a 10 year lifespan. Whereas today's EVs already have a 3x larger battery with a 20 year lifespan, or at least 125k miles, because battery system standards in vehicles are higher, due to vehicle output requirements and constant road vibrations.

The other half of that $60k would be a massive switchboard containing multiple hybrid inverters/controllers/switches/wiring and setup labor, which have a 10 year lifespan indoors. Most of it is an unnecessary result of safety regulations to combine grid power use, plus backup generator, plus grid export, plus your solar. At least half of it ($15k) is entirely unnecessary, because bidirectional EVs already have their own charging/discharging inverter, and you don't need a connected generator when the EV battery is 3x larger. Simply use a 3-5kW generator offline to run critical loads like freezers, on the rare occasion that everything is flat after a week of constant rain clouds.

Without the red tape regulations, all you need is a single 5kW inverter (like a $600 Growatt SPF5000) to charge the EV with your solar panels, and that's it. The EV already has it's own bidirectional inverter to give power to the home at any amount of amps if you have a thick enough cable. Surplus goes straight through the Growatt's bypass if you want to run a load like air-con all day from excess solar.

Government and energy red-tape regulation makers need to take a serious look at these off-grid inverters like the SPF5000 and implement just a couple of simple safety mechanisms and beefier wiring to allow them to be grid connected so you can also sell excess solar power to the grid as well, all on the same unit. If there's only one unit, not much can go wrong, in terms of maintenance. If the unit fails after 5 years, swap with a new one. They're 600 bucks. And they daisy chain if you want more power.

Also keep them indoors out of rain/sun and air moisture, set your limits so they're never overloaded, and you'd be suprised just how long they last. Usually inverters will last at least twice their stated warranty periods when treated nicely like this.

$175/month of electricity is $63k over 30 years, with no worries or hassles, sure. But if 10k can also give minimal hassles, why not. Plus another $60k saved on fuel.
 
Hydrogen pulled up from the depths and used for energy would combine with oxygen in the atmosphere to increase the amount of atmospheric water. Would we then have speculation about "global dampening"? (Water vapor is also just as much of a 'greenhouse gas' as CO2.)

The carbon we've put back into the atmosphere after having been sequestered underground (and in limestone) for eons is tiny in atmospheric percentage but it's had a great effect in greening the earth -- increasing plant growth and life in general. Hydrogen would not be a re-introduction of something sequestered (as far as I know) so it would differ from carbon in that respect. Might it turn deserts green? Might it cause flooding? But it would, of course, only add a tiny percentage to overall water.

The huge mistake that's being made is to regard human technological activity as being an aberration of the natural progression of evolution. Of course it's not, because it's just as much a response to the overall system as any adaptation of animals or plants.
 
Over 20 years, why would someone pay 40k for home electricity, plus 40k for gas in their car? When instead they can pay 5k for solar/inverter
Why not learn math? You won't power the average home and car for even a $100,000 solar array, much less $5K. And that even assumes you have the physical space to put such a large array.

The other half of that $60k would be a massive switchboard containing multiple hybrid inverters/controllers/switches/wiring to combine grid power use, plus backup generator.
Um, you won't get such a system with a backup generator for anywhere near that price. And the inverter isn't needed simply for grid power use, but to turn the DC output from the cells into the AC your home requires.

The EV already has it's own bidirectional inverter to give power to the home
Sure, if you don't mind burning up the charge/discharge cycles on your expensive EV batteries and shortening their lifespan. And you don't mind leaving your EV utterly uncharged and at zero range when the sun doesn't shine for a day or two ... or leaving your wife and kids without electricity when you drive the EV off to the store.

....simple safety mechanisms and beefier wiring to allow them to be grid connected so you can also sell excess solar power to the grid
But you're not "selling power to the grid". What you're actually doing is forcing the utility to act as your backup battery at enormous cost to them. It's a nice dishonest hustle that shifts all those costs onto your neighbors ... but one that only works until your neighbors all get solar as well.
 
Hydrogen pulled up from the depths and used for energy would combine with oxygen in the atmosphere to increase the amount of atmospheric water. Would we then have speculation about "global dampening"? (Water vapor is also just as much of a 'greenhouse gas' as CO2.)
Water vapor is actually a much more potent GHG than CO2. In fact, the entire alarmism about global warming began when Drs. Hansen and his cronies postulated that CO2's very mild warming effect was amplified several times by it bringing additional water vapor into the atmosphere.

BTW, if you haven't seen this yet, check out the dangers of "dihydrogen monoxide", one of the most deadly substances known to man:

 
Water vapor is actually a much more potent GHG than CO2. In fact, the entire alarmism about global warming began when Drs. Hansen and his cronies postulated that CO2's very mild warming effect was amplified several times by it bringing additional water vapor into the atmosphere.

BTW, if you haven't seen this yet, check out the dangers of "dihydrogen monoxide", one of the most deadly substances known to man:

The alarmists need to broaden their understanding by looking at the work of likely the greatest climate scientist of all time, Dr. Willie Soon. A Nobel prize winner who has devoted his life to climate science and is completely ignored. The left has effectively tried to ruin him because he threatens their funding and exposed the scam that it is. A google search brings up only slander!


 
People forget to factor in basics of material science because they are not taught anywhere. Hydrogen is the lightest atom and the smallest of all atoms, meaning it is the fundamental building block of all material, extracting hydrogen atoms is very difficult/costly and they immediately combine with just about anything. In the pure forms if cultivated though expensive processes the liquid is highly explosive. Hydrogen fuel was set aside and other liquid combustibles were used because they are easier to cultivate and safer to use. There is some room for improvement of liquid combustibles and solid combustibles however we are already at a high efficiency as is. Which is why the boom of development is so aggressive in society today. Question is who wants to keep the boom going and who wants to slow it down or reverse it entirely?
 
Why not learn math? You won't power the average home and car for even a $100,000 solar array, much less $5K. And that even assumes you have the physical space to put such a large array.
My 3 SPF5000's are worth less than $2k combined. And my 18kW of second-hand solar panels were mostly free. Gives around 100kWh daily in summer. Can run about 10 aircons/heaters all day, or charge a flat EV twice daily. Seems enough power to me for $2k.
Um, you won't get such a system with a backup generator for anywhere near that price. And the inverter isn't needed simply for grid power use, but to turn the DC output from the cells into the AC your home requires.
I didn't say the generator itself is included in the price. Everyone has to purchase a backup generator, even if solely on grid power, just for power outages. Many EVs already have built-in inverters that convert the DC to AC. And for the ones that don't, EV makers can easily add one, or add a direct DC cable that plugs into the high voltage input of a second $600 SPF5000 for AC. It's not rocket science, the tech is all there, and it's very cheap to do, but just takes a willingness by EV manufacturers and to collaborate with energy suppliers to make it very safe.
Sure, if you don't mind burning up the charge/discharge cycles on your expensive EV batteries and shortening their lifespan. And you don't mind leaving your EV utterly uncharged and at zero range when the sun doesn't shine for a day or two ... or leaving your wife and kids without electricity when you drive the EV off to the store.
You can charge/discharge daily between 20-80% and today's EV batteries will last 20 years. With a wife and kids, you probably should be having 2 vehicles anyway if you're a responsible family. If not, add a small 10kWh LiFePO4 battery for $3k. Most people don't realise this, but an 18kW array still usually makes about 18kWh on rainy days. Plus, there's always grid power as a backup if more power is needed, or the gen for a second backup as well.
But you're not "selling power to the grid". What you're actually doing is forcing the utility to act as your backup battery at enormous cost to them. It's a nice dishonest hustle that shifts all those costs onto your neighbors ... but one that only works until your neighbors all get solar as well.
"Selling power to the grid" is simply just another way of saying exporting your surplus. It doesn't mean selling for profit. Electricity would be free anyway, so it would essentially be just sharing it around between households to balance supply/demand outliers. It doesn't cost the grid anything beyond their basic network supply charge, as they're not making or storing anything, they're just diverting user-generated electricity in/out to wherever it's needed.
 
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