Hidden underground hydrogen reserves could power the entire Earth for centuries

[pnntmp]

However, the exact locations of these hydrogen reserves remain unknown...

So how do we know these "reserves" actually exist, if their location is unknown?

There is a well known source of practically unlimited energy - nuclear fission. We should only get rid of the ridiculous regulations around it - which is many orders of magnitude easier than finding the unknown locations of eventually existing "reserves" of a notoriously hard and dangerous to store and transport gas.
Then there is nuclear fusion, which can probably be cracked for the 10% of the price of chasing assorted 'green' energy pipe dreams. And it's really green.

 

[toooooot]

The picture is from Rio Secreto, in Mexico. A majestic place to visit. I fell in love with places like this after watching The cave and the descent. To this day I love movies in locations like this

 

[Endymio]

"Selling power to the grid" is simply just another way of saying exporting your surplus. ... It doesn't cost the grid anything beyond their basic network supply charge, as they're not making or storing anything, they're just diverting user-generated electricity in/out to wherever it's needed.

Not addressing your other fallacies as this is the heart of it. People think "the grid" is an enormous water bucket you can simply dump electricity in whenever, then extract as needed. But the largest problem utilities face isn't generating the power; it's matching supply to demand in real time, second-by-second.

If your neighbors have solar -- or your utility does also -- then when the sun's shining, that surplus has no value. Worse, it becomes an expensive problem for the grid to manage -- it literally costs money to dispose of it. Nations like Germany which have large amounts of wind/solar have periods where industrial electricity rates go negative -- they literally pay customers to consume electricity -- to dispose of the excess. Conversely, when the sun doesn't shine, that Kw-hr of electricity suddenly costs more than ten times the normal rate. Sometimes its not available at any price -- then you have blackouts.

Worse is that baseline power sources like our 1970s-era nuclear plants can't perform load-following. That means grid balancing must occur with nat gas turbines ... which of course emit CO2, and are more expensive to operate.

In theory Germany generates 50% of its power from wind and solar. But that push has taken it from the cheapest electricity in Europe to one of the most expensive -- the wild price swings have driven many industrial customers out of the country and raised the spectre of blackouts for the first time since WW2. And even that 50% value is only possible because Germany uses neighbors like Poland as gigantic storage batteries, fobbing excess solar off on them, then buying back traditional power when the sun doesn't shine. A neat trick ... but one that only works when you have neighbors who aren't also producing wind and solar.

 

[tech1452]

People seem to think "the grid" is like an enormous water bucket you can simply dump electricity in whenever, then extract as needed.

That's a battery. The grid isn't a battery. But EVs do this job perfectly, if only they were allowed to.

then when the sun's shining, then that surplus has no value at all. Worse, it actually becomes an expensive problem for the grid to manage -- it literally costs them money to dispose of it.

Why would anyone with solar export surplus if the grid (I.e. neighbors/businesses) doesn't need it at the time it's being generated? The inverter itself throttles its production, or a smart meter easily does that job also. You only export surplus if and when there's a demand for it, otherwise it's pointless. This isn't a situation where you 'have to' export anything for profit. Most of my 100kWh daily solar production doesn't even get generated each day since I don't have enough loads for it beyond, say, 30kWh. That doesn't mean I 'have to' still produce the 70kWh excess, and then go and try to sell it, because nobody would need it at those hours, except maybe a little for businesses and factories that are usually the main energy users during the day.

They can make electricity free and fair for everyone, by balancing out import/export amounts for the 16hr nighttime period. For example, those with an EV who export at night, get paid X amount per kWh, and then can buy back up to X amount say tomorrow night if their EV is unavailable that night, making their import/export ratio nil (I.e. free). And the grid will be in charge of 'funneling' this electricity as and when needed/generated, second-by-second. The grid doesn't need to make anything themselves at all. If there's too much nighttime generation versus demand, the meters will auto throttle exports to match demand exactly.

People without an EV or battery will have to buy their nighttime electricity, until they get one to start exporting. Whereas, people with one, will be able to sell their nighttime electricity for a decent profit, until everyone gets onboard, then buys/profits will level out for the most part, and electricity will just be free all around, because nearly everyone will essentially be making/using their own electricity, except for the outliers like ones who use their EV at night for example.

 

[Dimitrios]

Wrong people, the coal luddites will. those earth and baby killers will find any reason to have lobbyists kill any thing that is as good as hydrogen so they can kill more people undergrounds, kill babies with fracking contamination and rape the planet to underage cheerleader porn like matt geatz

My comment was removed.

Might want to look into Hochul, Hillary, Hunter and other so-called pro Green people but they in fact are shareholders of oil companies. To the baby comment, look up a small public meeting hosted by AOC a few years back where a female supporter said to save this world from global warming we need to eat babies. They walked that young lady right out.

 

[Dimitrios]

Perfect timing. Google doesn't like truth.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1874490331330486609

 

[Rudyduu]

"supply all the hydrogen we need to get to net-zero [carbon]"

How will we extract energy from hydrogen? Burn it, perhaps, in an engine to convert it to power? Where, then do those waste products go? How much wil this cost? If it's not more cost effective, then what will we gain?

The byproduct of burning hydrogen is water.

 

[Rudyduu]

Perfect timing. Google doesn't like truth.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1874490331330486609

Someone posted something on X, must be true, oh someone made a video about it, must be even more true.

 

[Reachable]

Water vapor is actually a much more potent GHG than CO2. In fact, the entire alarmism about global warming began when Drs. Hansen and his cronies postulated that CO2's very mild warming effect was amplified several times by it bringing additional water vapor into the atmosphere.

BTW, if you haven't seen this yet, check out the dangers of "dihydrogen monoxide", one of the most deadly substances known to man:

Facts About Dihydrogen Monoxide

Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division provides an international clearinghouse for information on Dihydrogen Monoxide including current research results, governmental regulations, and exposure and contamination alerts. Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) can be dangerous to humans. Dihydrogen Monoxide...

www.dhmo.org

Are you serious about 'dihydrogen monoxide'? Tell me you aren't -- it sounds like you are.

 

[Endymio]

Someone posted something on X, must be true, oh someone made a video about it, must be even more true.

The "someone" is yet another well-respect climate scientist -- in fact the chief researcher responsible for several of NASA's climate monitoring satellites -- who's been silenced by the climate alarmist zealots.

Are you serious about 'dihydrogen monoxide'? Tell me you aren't -- it sounds like you are.

Hey, it's extremely dangerous stuff. Read that website and learn more. A single teaspoon can kill a person, yet we allow large open reservoirs of it to stand open and unmonitored around the world ... some of them right next to large cities! World wide it kills some 300,00 people a year, yet the media largely ignores the problem.

 

[Liranan]

Even MORE ABSURD is that you think even more reserves of oil and gas is a good thing considering that is exactly what has got us into the s*** with climate change. You seem blissfully unaware of the problem.

Explain how man made climate change is affecting the entirety of the solar system.

 

[BadThad]

Explain how man made climate change is affecting the entirety of the solar system.

These climate lemmings are impossible to educate. They have been completely brainwashed by the MSM or other "experts" on the web. The bottom line, follow the money! Billions of taxpayer dollars go into climate change research even though 99% of the work is garbage. This has been exposed by Dr. Willie Soon - the most knowledgeable climate expert in the world. Yet a google search for Dr. Soon paints him as an evil villain. FOLLOW THE MONEY!

 

[lostinlodos]

Way too many people mix climate change denial with denying man’s (unlikely) influence.

Climate change is a natural part of our planetary processes. We can make tiny tips to speed it up or slow it down. Nothing more.

We are in the final stages of the most recent ice age —one of many— and the last of the ice is melting. Smart people in science have known this for a very long time! Yet people continue to build for self, rather than for conditions.

Look at property and casualty rates. Why do Singapore, Philippines, Cuba, India, get struck with storm after storm after storm and have very little loss vs Florida, the east coast, and the “wealth” islands.

Climate change isn’t the problem: human stupidity is.

Nothing we do, or don’t, short of nuclear winter, is going to modify earth’s natural cycles.

 

[BadThad]

Way too many people mix climate change denial with denying man’s (unlikely) influence.

Climate change is a natural part of our planetary processes. We can make tiny tips to speed it up or slow it down. Nothing more.

We are in the final stages of the most recent ice age —one of many— and the last of the ice is melting. Smart people in science have known this for a very long time! Yet people continue to build for self, rather than for conditions.

Look at property and casualty rates. Why do Singapore, Philippines, Cuba, India, get struck with storm after storm after storm and have very little loss vs Florida, the east coast, and the “wealth” islands.

Climate change isn’t the problem: human stupidity is.

Nothing we do, or don’t, short of nuclear winter, is going to modify earth’s natural cycles.

HERE HERE!

The whole "denier" thing was invented by the far left. Those with brains do not deny that climates are changing, what we deny is that man is the cause. Anyone that has bothered to research the money making scam understands the REAL science and that is the climate is controlled by THE SUN and other influences are negligible. Dr. Soon has laid this all out but because he threatens their lifeblood funding, he is ridiculed. As always, FOLLOW THE MONEY!

 

[Dimitrios]

Someone posted something on X, must be true, oh someone made a video about it, must be even more true.

Funny, MSM is now trash. Funny how conspiracy theories ended up being right. I spend a lot of time finding the truth. I tend to be right.

 

[BadThad]

Funny, MSM is now trash. Funny how conspiracy theories ended up being right. I spend a lot of time finding the truth. I tend to be right.

Funny, anything the left doesn't like is called a "conspiracy theory" or "disinformation". We cannot trust the MSM any longer, they have been proven to be LIARS and agents of the far left. The good thing for us, we have eye, ears, brains and the web - we don't need them anymore.

 

[lostinlodos]

HERE HERE!

The whole "denier" thing was invented by the far left. Those with brains do not deny that climates are changing, what we deny is that man is the cause. Anyone that has bothered to research the money making scam understands the REAL science and that is the climate is controlled by THE SUN and other influences are negligible. Dr. Soon has laid this all out but because he threatens their lifeblood funding, he is ridiculed. As always, FOLLOW THE MONEY!

I’m all for save the planet. I recycle everything! Even pay to recycle some things most toss in the trash.
Carbon emissions are not the issue.
In a world where trash pollution, plastic waste, government dumping… I’m far more worried about the crap in the water than some non-existent crisis that doesn’t actually exist.

Hydrogen is extremely energy efficient.
but it goes boom. Very easily. It is also a **** in the atomic world. It pairs with everything. the idea of it replacing oil is not a pipe dream—it’s a joke. It can’t and won’t happen.
There is no way to tap enough (even on the extreme high end of this report) and keep it clean (green) of bonds.

If you want to save the planet, grab a paper bag and pick up trash. Buy aluminium packaging rather than plastic. Don’t dump meds in the toilet. Etc. Those are things that make real changes.

 

[BadThad]

I’m all for save the planet. I recycle everything! Even pay to recycle some things most toss in the trash.
Carbon emissions are not the issue.
In a world where trash pollution, plastic waste, government dumping… I’m far more worried about the crap in the water than some non-existent crisis that doesn’t actually exist.

Hydrogen is extremely energy efficient.
but it goes boom. Very easily. It is also a **** in the atomic world. It pairs with everything. the idea of it replacing oil is not a pipe dream—it’s a joke. It can’t and won’t happen.
There is no way to tap enough (even on the extreme high end of this report) and keep it clean (green) of bonds.

If you want to save the planet, grab a paper bag and pick up trash. Buy aluminium packaging rather than plastic. Don’t dump meds in the toilet. Etc. Those are things that make real changes.

I agree 100%! I'm all about saving the environment....however, the manmade climate "scientists" are absolutely wasting time with CO2 trash rather than working on the REAL problems we face with pollution. Just think how far we may have advanced if we had these people working on something REAL.

 

[Endymio]

....however, the manmade climate "scientists" are absolutely wasting time with CO2 trash rather than working on the REAL problems we face with pollution.

It was particularly ironic when EU CO2 regulations were forcing people to swap to diesels which emitted much more dangerous VOCs and particulate pollutants, simply because they emitted a little less harmless CO2.

 

[BadThad]

It was particularly ironic when EU CO2 regulations were forcing people to swap to diesels which emitted much more dangerous VOCs and particulate pollutants, simply because they emitted a little less harmless CO2.

The CO2 Derangement Syndrome is far worse than TDS! The entire EU parliament is onboard and if you disagree they call you names. I've spent too many hours listening to these ***** bureaucrats claiming the lying scientists "know best". The only thing they know is how to extract money to fuel their pointless research.

Every believer in manmade climate change should watch this:

 

[tech1452]

If you want to save the planet, grab a paper bag and pick up trash. Buy aluminium packaging rather than plastic.

The one who put the trash there should go pick it up themselves, and once they have enough of doing it, maybe realize not to put it there in the first place.

Also, plastic doesn't kill the planet. Where did that idea come from? If anything, manufacturing paper bags and aluminium kills it more.