Hong Kong authorities seize 300 Nvidia CMP mining cards from a fishing boat

Squid Surprise

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Australia, New Zealand. Some others as well. I replied to a message stated all manufacturing of all products across the world. This seemed a very American/mass manufacturing country centric message.

Yes there are a few issues with supply chains, but that does not affect all manufacturing across all the world. Food, drinks and steel are easy ones to demonstrate are not affected. You want vacines, max capacity being manufactured. Etc.

Factories/businesses are generally operating at capacity now as well, now the panic is over.
Maybe want to research that a bit first?

That's a fairly comprehensive report... here's a salient line..
"The Australia Institute, a social democratic think tank, estimates that it would take at least 21 months to recover from the 10 per cent economic contraction that the Reserve Bank predicts."

Yeah... sounds like everything's peachy...
 

Aus spot

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Maybe want to research that a bit first?

That's a fairly comprehensive report... here's a salient line..
"The Australia Institute, a social democratic think tank, estimates that it would take at least 21 months to recover from the 10 per cent economic contraction that the Reserve Bank predicts."

Yeah... sounds like everything's peachy...
Maybe do some real research. Australia's MANUFACTURING is not a domanent component to the ECONOMY of AUSTRALIA.

You are comparing apples to oranges. I continue to refer you to the original comment, please don't expand that to all aspects of economy to justify your comments. If you do, lets look at COVID deaths.

Also the economic impact has not been as bad as expected. We had the sense to shut down hard and virtually elimiate the virus. So impact and recovery has been similar to a V shape.

 
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Squid Surprise

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Maybe do some real research. Australia's MANUFACTURING is not a domanent component to the ECONOMY of AUSTRALIA. You are comparing apples to oranges. I continue to refer you to the original comment, please don't expand that to all aspects of economy to justify your comments. If you do, lets look at COVID deaths.

Also the economic impact has not been as bad as expected. We had the sense to shut down hard and virtually elimiate the virus. So impact and recovery has been similar to a V shape.
The POINT was that the availability of silicon - that is, the CPUs and GPUs everyone is whining about - is affected by the pandemic... and EVERY country was affected... some less than others... but ALL were affected.
 

Aus spot

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The POINT was that the availability of silicon - that is, the CPUs and GPUs everyone is whining about - is affected by the pandemic... and EVERY country was affected... some less than others... but ALL were affected.
No, go back and READ the quote I replied to. It refered to ALL MANUFACTURING and expanded on that to demonstrate the building sector.

You lost every point you have made in this matter. I work in AUSTRALIA in the area responsible for the manufacturing econemy. I know and have access to more official information than you.

Our GDP is nearly back to pre COVID levels. And We are gathering in large numbers without masks.

Please fall on your sword. The poster I replied to isn't jumping up and down. Admit you are wrong or just stop trying to argue a dead horse.
 

Squid Surprise

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No, go back and READ the quote I replied to. It refered to ALL MANUFACTURING and expanded on that to demonstrate the building sector.

You lost every point you have made in this matter. I work in AUSTRALIA in the area responsible for the manufacturing econemy. I know and have access to more official information than you.

Our GDP is nearly back to pre COVID levels. And We are gathering in large numbers without masks.

Please fall on your sword. The poster I replied to isn't jumping up and down. Admit you are wrong or just stop trying to argue a dead horse.
Please provide some evidence that manufacturing is at or above pre-covid levels in Australia.... otherwise, NO, your point is not valid.
 

mbrowne5061

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The CMP mining cards use 12nm. Ampere uses 8nm. Try again.
There is more to making a GPU than just the chip. There is literally every other component (which are common across boards), and the time a 12nm board spends on an assembly line could have been used for an 8nm board.

Factories have limited bandwidth and resources. Going back to the car example, you just said 'Even though they use the same frame, body, suspension, and transmission, it does not count because these use 4-cylinder engines, instead of a V8 engine'. It still took up space on the assembly line, and time from the workers.
 

NightAntilli

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There is more to making a GPU than just the chip. There is literally every other component (which are common across boards), and the time a 12nm board spends on an assembly line could have been used for an 8nm board.

Factories have limited bandwidth and resources. Going back to the car example, you just said 'Even though they use the same frame, body, suspension, and transmission, it does not count because these use 4-cylinder engines, instead of a V8 engine'. It still took up space on the assembly line, and time from the workers.
That would be true, if we were to assume that there are enough 8nm chips around to maximize assembly line capacity.
I don't think there are.

I'm more than aware that graphics cards use more components. There are GDDR6 constraints as well.
I should also say that I was one of the first to say that mining cards will not solve the problem, but simply take away from the gaming graphics cards, and that miners prefer the standard graphics cards because they have a resell value. Miners go for mining cards after the gaming cards are already exhausted.

And yet, all this is pretty much irrelevant to the smuggling of mining cards. At this point, unless gaming is a source of income for you, you should be doing something else with your time. Things will remain like this for a couple of more months at least.