Hyundai reveals electric-hydrogen hybrid concept car with a retro design

[wiyosaya]

@Ludak021 I don't know if you noticed, but at the end of the Bob Lazar video, there is a scrolling text message that tells exactly what the hydride is. It's Lithium-6 deuteride. If you think that is "safe," perhaps you should take a look at this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_hydride#Safety

I also have a comment on the myth that the fossil fuel industry, AKA, Big Oil, somehow has a stranglehold on the world or the industry.

Consider this: What industry does Big Oil require to, big oil itself, that is, exist? Wait for it - The automotive industry. Yes, that's right. Aside from energy usages for heating/cooling and other industries, Big Oil is dependent on the automotive industry for its existence.

Right now, the automotive industry is completely in on moving to EVs, and Big Oil can't do Jack Sch!tt about it.

Just in case you are unfamiliar with Jack Sch!tt

 

[wiyosaya]

What? I never claimed to solve anything.

As for Graphene batteries. Lithium stores ~180Wh/KG, and Graphene stores ~1000Wh/KG; 5.55x improvement. Or, extrapolating out, around ~4MJ/KG for graphene batteries - about 1/3 the energy density of a hydrogen-oxygen reaction in a fuel cell.

AKA: Still trash for when it comes to heavy trucking.

Did I say anything about Graphene batteries? Perhaps you should re-read what I posted. When you solve that energy storage problem, let us know.

BTW - See my post above. Even Bob (area51) Lazar's solution has a ways to go before being completely safe - even though he pretends it is in the video. I expect nothing less from Bob Lazar, though.

There's also another possible path for big trucking - reduce the weight of the vehicles themselves.

It will be interesting to see how long Lazar is able to keep that nuclear reactor on his property.

 

[Ludak021]

@Ludak021 I don't know if you noticed, but at the end of the Bob Lazar video, there is a scrolling text message that tells exactly what the hydride is. It's Lithium-6 deuteride. If you think that is "safe," perhaps you should take a look at this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_hydride#Safety

I also have a comment on the myth that the fossil fuel industry, AKA, Big Oil, somehow has a stranglehold on the world or the industry.

Consider this: What industry does Big Oil require to, big oil itself, that is, exist? Wait for it - The automotive industry. Yes, that's right. Aside from energy usages for heating/cooling and other industries, Big Oil is dependent on the automotive industry for its existence.

Right now, the automotive industry is completely in on moving to EVs, and Big Oil can't do Jack Sch!tt about it.

Just in case you are unfamiliar with Jack Sch!tt

What is your point here? That lithium is safe to eat, and hydrogen isn't? That Big Oil, which sells oil just fine since in their scheme of things EVs matter just as much as 1 million dollar cars in the market, will be stopped by EVs? Are you kidding me? Do you even know how much of oil is spent for producing just fuel? Less than 40%. Do you know how many people can afford EVs? Less than people that can afford Elons stupid battery for house and Solar panels. Not everyone has hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros lying around.

 

[wiyosaya]

What is your point here? That lithium is safe to eat, and hydrogen isn't?

Read the link I posted. Lazar, quite outright, claimed his hydride was safe in the video you posted. That is total BS. Its no safer than gasoline in the long run - except while its contained. But if those tanks were ruptured - well - lets just say that the problems would likely be just as severe as the problems from Tesla batteries when Teslas crash.

That Big Oil, which sells oil just fine since in their scheme of things EVs matter just as much as 1 million dollar cars in the market, will be stopped by EVs? Are you kidding me? Do you even know how much of oil is spent for producing just fuel? Less than 40%. Do you know how many people can afford EVs? Less than people that can afford Elons stupid battery for house and Solar panels. Not everyone has hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros lying around.

The thing is we all know that new tech is expensive. But new tech, and thus its costs, are not static. Costs can, and will come down as EVs become the norm. In fact, have a look at this - https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news...t-euv-and-bolt-ev-are-already-discounted.html As I see it, your argument that people like Musky are the only ones that can afford EVs is moot and rather mis-informed.

And I guess you are trying to argue that a loss of 40% of its sales to Big Oil is just a flesh wound?

 

[Ludak021]

No, Bob explained that even if ruptured the gas I so light it would mix with air and float away so fast you can't ignite it even on purpose. But I guess you skipped that part.
Look, I am out of this topic. Refer to the video AGIAN, it has the replies I would have given you.

Cheers mate.

 

[m3tavision]

Hydrogen is largely a red herring, provided as an alternative because the current state of politics requires one side to never admit the other side was on the right track, ever.

The electricity grid has existed, and been in a constant state of development and upgrade, for over a century now. Why would we build an entirely new, incomprehensibly expensive infrastructure to support consumer hydrogen vehicles instead? Not to mention that as things stand currently, hydrogen is either just fossil fuel with extra steps, or electric with 30% less efficiency (and therefore even more strain on the electricity grid than BEV).

There's an argument to be made for hydrogen in heavy vehicles as the energy density of current battery tech doesn't scale very well up to their size. But even then, by the time you build out hydrogen tech and enough infrastructure to support heavy vehicles the battery tech may have caught up.

The shipping cost of Hydrogen alone, outweighs the cost of EV's...

EV's are also more efficient and could be ZERO emissions from nuclear to car...

 

[mbrowne5061]

Did I say anything about Graphene batteries? Perhaps you should re-read what I posted. When you solve that energy storage problem, let us know.

Yes, yes you did bring up Graphene. Read your own link:

GMG Graphene Aluminium-Ion Battery | Graphene Manufacturing Group | GMG

graphenemg.com

"This world-exclusive type of battery is a significant step closer to reality thanks to GMG, The University of Queensland Research, and UniQuest commencing their scale-up research project on the Graphene Aluminium-Ion Battery."