Industry group says games should not be a scapegoat for gun violence problem

By midian182 ยท 34 replies
Mar 8, 2018
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  1. roberthi

    roberthi TS Addict Posts: 264   +65

    On the gun issue, you don't stop a fire by throwing more logs on it.
  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,944   +3,907

    I'll wait for your return after watching the video. I will go ahead and add a point to one of the bulletpoints you mentioned.

    "If you have any type of violent criminal record, you cannot possess a gun for 10 years."

    You are referring to a regulation that takes someones right to defend their self, based on "failure to pay childsupport"? Tell me exactly how is refusing to pay someone an act of violence?
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2018
  3. roberthi

    roberthi TS Addict Posts: 264   +65

    I hear what you're trying to say, but it's a lot easier to take down a knife wielding attacker before they take out 17 people that a gun-toting one. It's also a lot harder to get some of those other items you mentioned without being caught, except the vehicle. That doesn't mean ignore the problem.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,287   +464

    Man... two big misses here. So let's say this kid didn't have a gun and couldn't get on. Are you so naive to think he is just going to say "well I can't get a gun so I guess I won't kill those kids after all"? This is one of the primary anti-gun logic failures. If this kid is filled with so much hate, he will find a way to hurt those people. And believe me, bombs and vehicles can be quite effective at killing a large amount of people quickly.

    And who the hell ever said lets arm the kids? No one ever said that. Quit trying to produce a sentiment that didn't exist in the first place.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,287   +464

    You really think so? Have you ever been attacked by someone with a knife? Or seen a crazy guy with a knife going after people? It is still a very difficult task. And you could potentially kill just as many people with a knife, it has been done before...

    The problem is people, and you are right... that problem is being ignored. Focusing on an inanimate object that does nothing by itself, is pointless as long as evil people are out there.
  6. Abraka

    Abraka TS Enthusiast Posts: 58   +26

    I've just watched "Criminal Minds" at 3 pm showing someones head being cut off. Yes, 3 pm (15:00 h), when little children can see it too.

    How come TV and games aren't guilty for anything? How come they always have an excuse to show **** like that and get away with "some studies show that game/tv violence causes no real violence". Really?

    How about making racist anti-black movies and games then? If movies don't affect viewers, then racist movies are ok, right? Oh... what did you say? Movies and games DO influence viewers? Nice of you to admit. I agree. Books, movies and all other media DO affect the consumers. It was always known, that's why some books were banned. Series like "Criminal Minds" shouldn't be aired before midnight. THEN you can ask for other measures.
  7. roberthi

    roberthi TS Addict Posts: 264   +65

    Let's focus on the real problem. Society and parental guidance is basically screwed up now. We let our children experience and hear about things that weren't even heard of years ago by the average person and certainly not as frequently. Parents have to some degree been hamstrung by society in how they can discipline and control their children's behavior and to another degree, parents haven't given enough attention to the problems their kids are facing. Some people perform these heinous acts as children or at a later time in life.

    Not sure where you're going with anti-black movies and racism, as if that's the only form of racism.

    I agree with you on the air time of certain shows. The trick is getting everyone to agree on what's adequate. Having said that, if you take 2 children who are arguing and one hits the other with a stick, you take the stick away first, then determine what the problem is and then explain why the behavior is wrong. In this case, you take the gun away, and then determine what the problem is. Sure there are bad influences in the media, as are in education, local / national / international society, politics, news, art, you name it. Cherry picking a cause out of a possible many is just that...cherry picking.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,287   +464

    Yeah take the stick away so little Johnny can pick up a rock instead. That makes sense...
  9. roberthi

    roberthi TS Addict Posts: 264   +65

    Because you have a better idea I take it.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,287   +464

    I was being a smart arse but I made my point. You take the child causing the problem away from the situation and discuss it with them. That is a better idea in most but not all cases.

    Look for the most part I agree with you, and at some point or for another reason it may very well be appropriate to take the weapon away but you need to attempt to reason with the problem child first. No one talks anymore to resolve things it seems...

    Now obviously every situation is different and adults with weapons can most certainly be more dangerous but reasoning is the first thing that should be attempted.
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