Intel is finally investigating reports of high-end 13th/14th-gen CPUs causing game crashes

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Of course they did. Really you don't think Intel has the performance crown? Intel leads, by a big margin, do an aggregate of ST performance, MT performance and gaming. On the top 8 CPUs in aggregate performance, 6 are Intel, and they also occupy the first 4 places.

here you go

https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900ks/images/relative-performance-cpu.png

It was for the GAMING performance crown - which they held for a brief moment until the 3D CPUs came out...

As for productivity, the 7950 is king there (unless we count Threadripper, which CRUSHES everything)

 

[Strawman]

It was for the GAMING performance crown - which they held for a brief moment until the 3D CPUs came out...

As for productivity, the 7950 is king there (unless we count Threadripper, which CRUSHES everything)

Uhm, no. I mean I know amd fans don't care particularly about facts, but that's not true. I've already linked an aggregate of a bunch of applications, even if you include games, Intel cpus are comfortably sitting at the top. Let's not try to change reality brother. You can say anything negative you want about Intel but their CPUs definitely do not lack in performance.

 

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In brief: Remember back in February when we saw more reports of Intel's top-end 13th-gen and 14th-gen CPUs causing game instability, especially in titles powered by the Unreal Engine? It's led to many people returning their processes, and Team Blue now says it is finally investigating the problem.

There were several reports at the start of the year about Core i9-13900K and Core i7-14900K users experiencing crashes in games. While many reported seeing an "out of video memory" error, some noted that games would close for no apparent reason, leaving them on the desktop. Other reports complained that the systems froze entirely and required a restart.

With most of the problems seemingly affecting Unreal titles like Fortnite, Epic Games advised users to adjust their BIOS settings, changing the SVID Behavior setting to Intel Fail Safe on Asus, Gigabyte, or MSI boards.

Epic-owned RAD, the company behind the Bink video codec and Oodle data compression technology, said "overly optimistic BIOS settings" are causing a small percentage of processors to go out of their functional range of clock rate and power draw under high load, and execute instructions incorrectly.

Fatshark, developer of Vermintide 2 and Warhammer 40,000: Darktide, advised those experiencing problems to underclock the Performance Core speed using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU), from x55 to x53. Gearbox's advice was to remove any overclocks or use XTU, though changes made in the BIOS persist after a reset, unlike those made with Intel's software. More recently, the developer of Outpost: Infinity Siege suggested that players using Intel i9-13900K or 14900K CPUs should downclock them from 5.5GHz to around 5GHz to avoid crashes.

Nvidia's response to the problem

Remnant 2, Hogwarts Legacy, The Finals, Overwatch 2, and Nightingale have also been experiencing issues. ZDNet Korea writes that Tekken 8 has been showing an error message stating the PC doesn't have enough memory, even on systems with huge amounts of VRAM and system RAM. It's reported that around 10 people in South Korea are returning their 13th-gen or 14th-gen CPUs or prebuilt PCs that use the chips every day, exchanging them for equivalent AMD Ryzen processors. The news could be what prompted Intel to finally confirm it is investigating the issues.

Intel told the publication that it's "aware of problems that occur when executing certain tasks on 13th and 14th generation core processors for desktop PCs, and is analyzing them with major affiliates."

It might not be an ideal solution, but until Intel comes up with something better, it appears that the only way to deal with the game instability is downclocking, lowering the power/current limits, and undervolting 13th/14th-gen CPUs.

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Intel is finally investigating reports of high-end 13th/14th-gen CPUs causing game crashes

That's annoying! Hopefully Intel's investigation leads to a quick fix. Underclocking isn't ideal, but at least there's a temporary solution for now.

 

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Uhm, no. I mean I know amd fans don't care particularly about facts, but that's not true. I've already linked an aggregate of a bunch of applications, even if you include games, Intel cpus are comfortably sitting at the top. Let's not try to change reality brother. You can say anything negative you want about Intel but their CPUs definitely do not lack in performance.

You aren’t paying attention- GAMING performance crown! This is what Intel overclocked their CPUs to achieve - and they didn’t have it for long as the 3D AMD CPUs win that battle.

And check out some charts of video rendering, and other productivity apps (not cherry picked ones from Tech Powerup) and you’ll see AMD winning anything that favors multiple cores.

And again, if you include Threadripper, Intel gets destroyed.

 

[Strawman]

You aren’t paying attention- GAMING performance crown! This is what Intel overclocked their CPUs to achieve - and they didn’t have it for long as the 3D AMD CPUs win that battle.

And check out some charts of video rendering, and other productivity apps (not cherry picked ones from Tech Powerup) and you’ll see AMD winning anything that favors multiple cores.

And again, if you include Threadripper, Intel gets destroyed.

They did take the gaming performance crown with the 13900k, since it was by far the fastest gaming chip on release, but it doesn't really matter. The point is intel has the fastest cpus right now.

I did check charts of video rendering and other productivity apps. 3d center has an aggregate of all reviews from planet earth, if you combine all the results (single threaded tasks, multi threaded tasks, gaming tasks) intel really smokes amd at every price point. That's just the reality.

 

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They did take the gaming performance crown with the 13900k, since it was by far the fastest gaming chip on release, but it doesn't really matter. The point is intel has the fastest cpus right now.

I did check charts of video rendering and other productivity apps. 3d center has an aggregate of all reviews from planet earth, if you combine all the results (single threaded tasks, multi threaded tasks, gaming tasks) intel really smokes amd at every price point. That's just the reality.

They took it with the 13900 - by a small margin - as I previously posted.. then AMD released their 7000 series 3D series - and the 7800x3d, despite being a LOT cheaper, beat it in gaming.

Even the 14900 (which is basically the same CPU as the 13900 - but more expensive) lost out…

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And it still loses to the 7950 in productivity…

 

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They took it with the 13900 - by a small margin - as I previously posted.. then AMD released their 7000 series 3D series - and the 7800x3d, despite being a LOT cheaper, beat it in gaming.

Even the 14900 (which is basically the same CPU as the 13900 - but more expensive) lost out…

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D vs. Intel Core i9-14900K

It's time to take an updated look at the gaming performance of the Core i9-14900K and Ryzen 7 7800X3D, comparing head-to-head AMD and Intel's best gaming processors...

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And it still loses to the 7950 in productivity…

3rd time, agreggate score Intel cpus are topping all chart. Productivity, gaming, multithreaded, there is nothing that is fast in all of them. I don't know why you disagree with that.

 

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3rd time, agreggate score Intel cpus are topping all chart. Productivity, gaming, multithreaded, there is nothing that is fast in all of them. I don't know why you disagree with that.

And 3rd time... we're not talking about aggregate scores here!

When you're looking at specific performance crowns, there are different CPUs to fit the bill. No one is arguing that the 14900 isn't a great CPU - it is!

Unfortunately, Intel had to make some serious sacrifices for this - the insane heat and power it needs to SLIGHTLY edge out the 7950 in SOME productivity benchmarks are also what makes it far less efficient - especially for productivity tasks that take a long time, as the CPU will throttle. By the way, the 7950x is cheaper than the 14900...

For gaming, it's not even a contest - the VASTLY cheaper 7800x3d wins hands down.

Lastly, if you want to argue that cost doesn't matter... fine... I give you the Threadripper... ALL of the Threadripper chips beat the 14900 by a wide margin... even the 7960x (which at $1500 is less than twice the price of the Intel!),

Intel doesn't even have a competitor for the Threadripper series - even their Xeon chips lose and cost almost double!

 

[Strawman]

And 3rd time... we're not talking about aggregate scores here!

When you're looking at specific performance crowns, there are different CPUs to fit the bill. No one is arguing that the 14900 isn't a great CPU - it is!

Unfortunately, Intel had to make some serious sacrifices for this - the insane heat and power it needs to SLIGHTLY edge out the 7950 in SOME productivity benchmarks are also what makes it far less efficient - especially for productivity tasks that take a long time, as the CPU will throttle. By the way, the 7950x is cheaper than the 14900...

For gaming, it's not even a contest - the VASTLY cheaper 7800x3d wins hands down.

Lastly, if you want to argue that cost doesn't matter... fine... I give you the Threadripper... ALL of the Threadripper chips beat the 14900 by a wide margin... even the 7960x (which at $1500 is less than twice the price of the Intel!),

Intel doesn't even have a competitor for the Threadripper series - even their Xeon chips lose and cost almost double!

The threadripper is way overkill and completely impractical for home usecases.

The 14900k is more expensive than the 7950x because it's faster on every metric, ST, MT and gaming.

 

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The threadripper is way overkill and completely impractical for home usecases.

Many would argue the same for the 14900… yet it exists nonetheless…

The 14900k is more expensive than the 7950x because it's faster on every metric, ST, MT and gaming.

It’s certainly faster at gaming - yet it loses to the 7800x3d…
It does not win EVERY metric against the 7950 - let’s also remember that it was released well after the 7950.

Anything utilizing more than 8 cores tends to favour the 7950 - especially 16 core loads…