Laptop Core i9-13980HX smashes 30K barrier in Cinebench, outperforming AMD's Ryzen 9 7900X

[HardReset]

And im pretty sure this cpu restricted to 35w is the most efficient laptop cpu on planet earth as well. So whats the issue?

1. Does that laptop offer opportunity to lower TDP to 35 watts?
2. If it does, how many users actually do that (around 0.01% I guess)
3. Why buy ultra expensive high TDP part and limit power when you could buy much cheaper low TDP part that offers miles better price/efficiency ratio?
4. Make a guess. Is that laptop cooling designed for 35W TDP or around "200+W" TDP?

 

[Strawman]

1. Does that laptop offer opportunity to lower TDP to 35 watts?
2. If it does, how many users actually do that (around 0.01% I guess)
3. Why buy ultra expensive high TDP part and limit power when you could buy much cheaper low TDP part that offers miles better price/efficiency ratio?
4. Make a guess. Is that laptop cooling designed for 35W TDP or around "200+W" TDP?

1. Pretty sure it does. All laptops do nowadays
2. All users that care about battery and power consumption do. If its only 0.01% then only those 0.01 will do it, since the rest won't care I dont see the problem
3. Because it will stil be the fastest and most efficient laptop. An i9 at 35 watts is faster and most efficient than an i5 at 35 watts.
4. Who cares?

 

[HardReset]

1. Pretty sure it does. All laptops do nowadays
2. All users that care about battery and power consumption do. If its only 0.01% then only those 0.01 will do it, since the rest won't care I dont see the problem
3. Because it will stil be the fastest and most efficient laptop. An i9 at 35 watts is faster and most efficient than an i5 at 35 watts.
4. Who cares?

1. Laptops are usually trash when it comes to BIOS/UEFI settings so I doubt that.
2. Most users do not care about battery. And if they do, they have no idea how to make battery life better.
3. So you overpay to get "most efficient" laptop that also weights way too much because cooling is designed for "200+ watts"? Makes no sense but I agree that laptops rarely make.
4. Usually people want laptop to be light, not heavy. More cooling means more weight. Anyone that carries that laptop do care.

 

[Strawman]

1. Laptops are usually trash when it comes to BIOS/UEFI settings so I doubt that.
2. Most users do not care about battery. And if they do, they have no idea how to make battery life better.
3. So you overpay to get "most efficient" laptop that also weights way too much because cooling is designed for "200+ watts"? Makes no sense but I agree that laptops rarely make.
4. Usually people want laptop to be light, not heavy. More cooling means more weight. Anyone that carries that laptop do care.

1. Most laptops have software that does that in windows preinstalled.
2. If they don't care about baterry then it doesn't matter.
3. You overpay to get the fastest and most efficient laptop. I don't see the problem
4. That's not a problem with the cpu. That's a problem with the laptop. No one is stopping anyone from putting that cpu into a 50w laptop.

 

[maroon1]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...980hx-processor-36m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz.html

Max turbo power is 157 watt according to intel website, not 250 watt

 

[Strawman]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...980hx-processor-36m-cache-up-to-5-60-ghz.html

Max turbo power is 157 watt according to intel website, not 250 watt

Yeah but laptop manafacturers are free to do whatever they want. They can run it at 30 watts or 999 watts.

 

[rmcrys]

- if people need high performance: don´t buy a laptop. High performance laptops are very expensive (perf./price) and are loud! To try to cool down the hardware, the very thin and small fans are going to produce a high pitch noise. Not good.

- if you need a laptop + good performance, then buy a M1 Pro Macbook (multimedia only) or x64 Windows good laptop with thunderbold and an eGPU

- or a laptop with a Ryzen RDNA2/3 graphics for a little bit 3D / CAD + powerful desktop for heavy stuff.

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[Bamda]

That is all good but now show me the price.

 

[Makste]

Wow what an option.

 

[Knot Schure]

Yes, that is an impressive score but can we really call a CPU with a TDP of 235watts in a laptop "mobile". This isn't so much a laptop as it is a portable desktop. With a 99.5Whr battery, lets call it 100watt hours, the laptop can power the system for around 20 minutes at full power. It's been my experience products like this usually get around 1.5-2 hours of basic desktop use on battery. Enough for a flight and maybe get a decent charge during a lay-over.


I'm not saying there isn't a place for these products, if I was a life on the go person I absolutely would be able to replace my desktop with this product. I spend 6-8 weeks a year in hotel rooms traveling for work but that isn't enough time to invest in a product like this. However, if I was the type of person that spent 6-8 weeks a year AT HOME, I wouldn't hesitate to buy this. Frankly, with a 17" screen running at 2560X1600(previous models were 16:10), this could be a good option for a productivity laptop and a gaming laptop for people who spend lots of time away from home. The minimum specs are a 4070 with an i7-13700hx which still still a heck of a lot of power.

Depending on pricing this could be a really great product. And maybe I'm being a bit of an optimist, but I don't the Nividia tax is going to transfer over to mobile parts like it did to desktop parts. This could be a very capable high refresh rate 1440p machine

Indeed your 6 to 8 weeks is a lot of hotel stay, in a year, but those of us like myself, who spend 6 to 10 months a year in hotels, performance like this is so well valued, that we bite the bullet and spend £3k+ on new desktop performance laptops.

As for battery, the batteries are our UPS'es, between equipment rooms and desks, without shutting down. We keep them plugged in all the time. I even have two PSUs so I can leave one at work, and keep one at the hotel. Its a couple of kg less to pack up each day.

Portability? If I can close the screen and put it in my bag, its portable. If it has no screen and sits on the desk, its a desktop.

Incidentally, I've not used my 12900K desktop in months. What a waste, I know.

 

[fadingfool]

My desktops average 23 watts all day long

My Laptop averages 20 watts

and they can all native boot to Windows XP, so they are clearly better than this thing is

I even have an ancient Nehalem that native boots Windows XP in 3 seconds flat, CLEARLY beating this things Native XP boot time

It's so sad to watch these new machines do so much less for more money and do it with such a massive power draw

So sad

My first "gaming" laptop (well even back then it was considered a desktop replacement) had a AMD 64 3000+ CPU (at a massive 67W) and ATI 9600 128MB GPU (12W). At the time it was considered power hungry and would only last around two and a half hours on battery (but could play all the latest games at the time on it's 1400x1050 screen). The fans used to be a bit loud - I suspect the fans cooling the 13980HX need ear defenders.....

 

[yRaz]

Indeed your 6 to 8 weeks is a lot of hotel stay, in a year, but those of us like myself, who spend 6 to 10 months a year in hotels, performance like this is so well valued, that we bite the bullet and spend £3k+ on new desktop performance laptops.

As for battery, the batteries are our UPS'es, between equipment rooms and desks, without shutting down. We keep them plugged in all the time. I even have two PSUs so I can leave one at work, and keep one at the hotel. Its a couple of kg less to pack up each day.

Portability? If I can close the screen and put it in my bag, its portable. If it has no screen and sits on the desk, its a desktop.

Incidentally, I've not used my 12900K desktop in months. What a waste, I know.

like I said, I call these portable desktops. Coming back to my hotel and having a slice of home is, well, I can't put a price on that. However, I'm sure you can. I'm sure you understand the feeling of coming back to your hotel and having a slice of home there, waiting for you.