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davislane1
You're projecting your fear of the other side and your emotional investment in the issue.
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You're projecting your fear of the other side and your emotional investment in the issue.
damnthereaper
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Well I don't really fear the other side, maybe annoyance is a better term? I'm not mad at them, I don't hate them, but I am willing to engage them. IF that's fear then I am scared of everything and everyone
You are right I do have some emotional investment, but my point was, I'm not going to demean the other side to strengthen my argument, because honestly a lot of those comments were becoming childish.
captaincranky
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Just for the record, this is about as credible as me suddenly declaring, "why some of my best friends are black". They're not, nor are they ever likely to be. Nor am I likely to start listening to rap music. It's not that I haven't been exposed. That garbage pours out of the cars on my block, as the social entitlement children pass bags of drugs into the windows. The vast majority is racist pandering on the part of the record companies, and yes, every 10th word, (give or take) is n******..I'm not allowed to act like that, or speak like that, or now it would seem, to think like that. So, black people in America already have some special rights, which if the shoe were on the white foot, you would be pissing and moaning endlessly about.
I avoid public restrooms if possible. Before I thought it was just because I have hangups. Now, you've managed to validate my fears, and turn them into the reality of a transgender freak show.
The nonsense you're spouting about "rights", is a squeaky wheel croaking for special treatment. "I'm not a man, I'm a woman". Really who wants to listen to listen to this stupid s***, on a daily basis? We like to think the we were given the "gift of reason". I'm beginning to think of it as curse and a tool used for the sole purpose of annoying others.
Now it would seem we have to endure the legend of "Supergirl", brutalized to placate black TV watchers Jimmy Olsen is now black, and Supergirl is tripping over herself trying to get his attention. The ratings are failing, and as much as I love serial sci-fi, I wouldn't be too disappointed if it were cancelled.
Like I posted earlier, you stand little to no chance of ever changing my, or anyone else's mind here about your, "dire causes", Thus, your SJW efforts would be better served by slapping on a pair of silk panties and black fishnets, and marching with "your friends" and "those with causes you care about", into the first women's room where you can get a news camera to follow you.
Nor will it stop me from rebutting it...., vigorously.
I'm going to include this video so you can get the general idea of how much I'm interested in hip hop.
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damnthereaper
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"The squeaky wheel gets the oil"
Oh I know wont change your mind, I'm not here to change minds, just state my opinion as you have "elegantly" done yourself. but if it helps I'm willing to buy you a pair of earmuffs or sound canceling headphones? You seem to like turning things into a race issue, I see this more as general social issue, but if that's were you want to get hung up, alright then. I get it you don't like black people, that's fine. I don't like cabbage, but I'm not going to turn this into I hate cabbage ramble.
But I'm curious now, you keep bring me up wearing stockings and panties. It's funny because I'm straight and not a cross dresser but you seem to keep picturing me as one. If you want to use me in your fantasies, I can give you a picture that you can Photoshop all the panties and nylons if you want or do you have an Amazon wishlist I can contribute to if you want some of your own ladies unmentionables?
Anyways as my original post said, it's alright for you to go out kicking screaming (keep your dignity), but change is inevitable.
captaincranky
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So are the societies pictured in the "Hunger Games" and "Idiocracy". In fact, we're about halfway there. That doesn't mean I'll think they're a good idea, ever.
To reiterate, I'll argue as long as you like. but you still won't stand a chance of instituting the "social change", you pretend to espouse so vigorously
I still think your interests would be better served by, "ungrowing a pair", so to speak, and let some rookie journalist follow you around with a camera into, "women's beds, bathrooms, and behinds". Whoops, I meant "beyonds".
CODA: Music is always about race. It's about heritage, values, and emotions. So, I don't see how you can bring up "rap", and not expect to precipitate a discussion about race. But you knew that.
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davislane1
It's always amusing how people use this phrase. "Change is inevitable" as if the pendulum only swings in one direction.
The U.S. is more divided than it has been since the Civil War (Europe also being very divided). Progressives insist on importing millions of people (Muslims) who aren't progressive, who have higher birth rates than progressives and despise gays, can't stand blacks (Mid-East Muslims and "Mexicans"), and who violently oppose progressive social norms...but the progs are going to win 10-15 years down the road.
It's like watching someone build a house right on top of an active volcano and brag that detractors are jealous of the view.
cliffordcooley
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And by taking the keys out of your car you are minimizing the chances of it being stolen. People can take your car without the keys, but by taking the keys you make it less convenient. Same way with keeping restrooms segregated. It makes things less convenient for the perpetrator and much more easily to prosecute if they were not in a room they should have been in. There is a reason the boys and girls sign has been used all these years This new generation transgender **** is no exclusion.
captaincranky
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I could have embraced this tranny show decades ago on North Broad St. in Philly. The sidewalk was littered with cross dressing "hookers", eagerly awaiting you to stop so they could mug you.
As Bruce Springsteen put it (then), "his country side's burning with wolf man fairies, dressed in drag for homicide". Given that, I can't completely grasp why the senile old fart is suddenly cancelling concerts so as to protest laws that would allow them into the bathroom with his wife or his sister.
@damnthereaper BTW, you never did tell me how you were going to rush out and buy an "Eluviete" album. "Nightwish" maybe? How about "Within Temptation, "Epica", or even "Lacuna Coil"? I mean it's not a race thing, right?
Springsteen, "Lost in the Flood", for the curious: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/..._the_flood_ver3_crd_842283id_29062009date.htm
As Bruce Springsteen put it (then), "his country side's burning with wolf man fairies, dressed in drag for homicide". Given that, I can't completely grasp why the senile old fart is suddenly cancelling concerts so as to protest laws that would allow them into the bathroom with his wife or his sister.
@damnthereaper BTW, you never did tell me how you were going to rush out and buy an "Eluviete" album. "Nightwish" maybe? How about "Within Temptation, "Epica", or even "Lacuna Coil"? I mean it's not a race thing, right?
Springsteen, "Lost in the Flood", for the curious: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/..._the_flood_ver3_crd_842283id_29062009date.htm
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damnthereaper
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I was just referencing that I'm not afraid voice my opinion by using our last discussion as an example, I had no plan to put it in this convo, bu since we are here:
Well I kind of like Lacuna Coil (I do like their cover of Enjoy the Silence) but never really got into them. Now if you start talking Mastodon, Crack the Skye is one of my favorite albums of all time. Five Finger Death Punch and Bullet for My Valentine are some of my other favoirtes (Does Brendon Small count as metal? If he does then there's another). I also listen to Nirvana, Imagine Dragons, Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles, and I've really been getting into the revivalists lately. Just because I'm black doesn't mean I don't listen to other music outside of rap. I have the opposite belief that music can be universal.
Again it sounds like you've met a very small amount of black people and trans-gendered. It's not Rocky horror show, if that's what your going to pull your basis from then, ok.
If I'm the one holding the camera in the women's bedroom does that count as journalism? Because if that's the case, I may have some Pulitzer winning material.
damnthereaper
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Well when it comes to social progressiveness (increasing rights to groups of people wo feel oppressed I.e. minorities, women, homosexuals, forigners) in America, outside of Prohibition, when has it failed?
damnthereaper
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One could use the same argument of "it's been like tis for years" for segregation of whites and blacks back in the day during civil rights era, and was. If it's working now why change it? It can only cause trouble if blacks and whites mix.
If really all someone is waiting for to cause an assault in the bathroom is to be able to pretend to be a different gender under the guise of transgender, then these states must have that issue ramped, since they've had these non-discrimination laws for years (some a better part of a decade): http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/03/20/15-experts-debunk-right-wing-transgender-bathro/198533
damnthereaper
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Woops also Avenged Sevenfold (saw 3 times baby!), Atreyu, and Underoath.
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davislane1
It's never worked. It is, in fact, anti-civilzational.
Social progressivism destroyed American black culture (look at blacks pre- and post-fifties).
Social progressivism has erased the utility of a college education.
Social progressivism has destoryed the nuclear family.
Social progressivism has resulted in the demographic replacement of entire populations.
Social progressivism has resulted in plummeting birth rates (white/European population).
Social progressivism has turned U.S. K-12 education into a joke.
Social progressivism has turned STDs into a multi-billion dollar healthcare cost.
Social progressivism has resulted in the normalization of abortion.
And on, and on, and on.
Not only is the philosophy completely irrational (go read the writings of its architects), it is demonstrably harmful to the continued survival of Western Civilization.
Precisely why those of us who live in reality have drawn a line in the sand and, after decades of doing nothing, are defending it.
Progressives feel. They neither observe nor understand nor accept reality.
In North Carolina, they have a very simple take on restroom use. If you've got male parts, you use the male restroom. In you've got female parts, you use the women's restroom.
But this isn't good enough. It's bigoted and transphobic because someone who feels they have the wrong parts can't use the restroom they feel they belong in. So 400 people must lose an opportunity to work (PayPal) and porn peddlers must become hypocrites (xHamster), because it feels right.
And, as if to add a parodical element to the whole discussion, when you call them on these things, they say you're afraid, angry, and hateful.
(Hint: those are all emotions)
captaincranky
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I think the key here is to "get in touch with our feelings", and learn to determine the difference between "feeling oppressed", "being oppressed", and "being given an inch, then trying to take a mile". I honestly don't think you have that aspect of social responsibility worked out yet.
Of that array, my least favorite is Hendrix. I just never got him. And it's not because he was black. His music lacked high end "spit", and ceremony. Both of which I consider fundamentally necessary.
I will say, after watching the, "Superbowl's Best Halftime Shows", Prince was far and away the absolute best they had to offer. And Paul McCartney sucked, which (IMHO), was pretty much to be expected of a geriatric white man.
At this juncture I have to insist the music is the most fundamentally "racist" of our art forms. It's pulled from our cultures which are fundamentally based in "tribes", which generally follow ethnicity. If not, then blacks might get Tay Sachs along with sickle cell anemia, and the Jews might suffer the same fate
You'll never stop trying to bring me over to the dark side will you? (Oh c'mon, that was funny). In any case, as much as I plan to agree with, is the fact that media propaganda has managed to sweep those aspects of homosexuality in general, under the rug. Or dare I say it, "whitewashed"...!
No, it gets filed under "amateur".
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cliffordcooley
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This is absurd that everyone must comply because one is having an identity crisis. That only serves as a catalyst for identity crisis in many more people.
captaincranky
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Judging the overall flamboyance of gays in show business, I would think someone like Elton John would relish the idea of walking into a men's room. Why? For the same reason he's done everything in his out & proud life, the attention.
AFAIK, schools, even public, have adopted uniforms, to further "uniformity". Maybe it's time they standardized the undies too. Girls get the pink silk, and those born with appendages that need to breath, get the blue boxers or briefs.
When, if ever, we get around to legislating limiting sex change as only being available to those over 18, grades K through 12 should fall back into normalcy.
AFAIK, schools, even public, have adopted uniforms, to further "uniformity". Maybe it's time they standardized the undies too. Girls get the pink silk, and those born with appendages that need to breath, get the blue boxers or briefs.
When, if ever, we get around to legislating limiting sex change as only being available to those over 18, grades K through 12 should fall back into normalcy.
Darth Shiv
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It's different. The bible also advocates moral ideals that, let's be honest, can be pretty dated. It's a pretty simplistic (and patently false) argument to say because the bible is being banned equates to not taking morals that are in the bible as useful in society. Our society is a lot smarter than that. Society also should move faster on morality than sticking to a dated book that had a main purpose of keeping the ignorant to moral and societal standards.
Personally I think education to reduce or remove ignorance plus constructive democratic contribution to modern moral standards is the way of the future. The best living standards, education, ethics in the world are in Scandanavia. There is no coincidence that all those things are intertwined.
cliffordcooley
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Ironically not understanding the purpose of the Bible is ignorance. And you just demonstrated you don't.
Darth Shiv
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Why do I need to understand the purpose you are told for a fictional book? It is written by man for the purpose of making you think like a group of people who also read the book. There is literally no way you can prove me wrong on that.
It's purpose was more relevant in the middle ages when people were united for a purpose - to fight against another group of people who had their own book. The entire proof about the words in the bible are unverifiable. It is based on faith. You find me the author of the bible and we can have a chat about what was meant in the book.
Modern society
1) Does not need faith for morality.
2) Does not need a book to tell us how to be good to each other.
3) Does not need the bible for education. Have a look at how much bible wisdom has been replaced by science-based knowledge. The bible exclusive knowledge is an extremely small pool and it has been evaporating for centuries. Such great theories like flat-earth, the sun revolves around the earth and many more golden moments. They are cute for fairytales but they have been proven wrong so let's move on from fairytales please.
If you need a modern book on morality, I'd start with a blank piece of paper. For a starter, christianity does not own marriage. Marriage pre-dates christianity. There is also no-one on this planet who has any right to tell anyone else who they should choose to be their partner. Religion likes to try to control marriage. They've done it for a while now.
captaincranky
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The bible gives "advice". And you know the old saw about advice, "wise men don't need it, and fools won't heed it"
So, mammalian "marriage", regardless of species, should consist of one individual with male parts, and a second individual with females parts, both of which are ideally the same species, to avoid sterility in future generations.
As far as two individual of the same sex sharing social entitlements such as social security, that's a legal, secular issue, which has been handled very poorly thus far.
And if you'd like to continue running on about Scandinavian societies being more advanced, no need. I agree with you. But you will have to tolerate my politically incorrect way of explaining in. Those societies are more homogeneous than any culture in North America. AFAIK, Scandinavians never made the horrific blunder that was importing slaves from Africa either.
In fact, I have music from Finland which is so incredibly Caucasian, I can use it to hose drug dealers off my steps. "Nightwish or "Epica" ain't hip hop, that's for sure.
And if you'd like to discuss tribal migrations from the Ural and Caucasus regions, Trolls and Valhalla, I'm here for you about that too...(y)
Here's where I think it might do you some good to pick on a practicing atheist your own size, namely me.
Some parts of the bible are relevant today, some of it is abstract and metaphor, and a big chunk of it is just plain bulls***, primarily the entire New Testament.
Speak for yourself. Some people wallow in faith, yet have no moral fiber. And some believe Jesus will forgive you no matter what crimes you commit. So, to a certain extent the Bible contributes to amorality.
The bible gives "advice". And you know the old saw about advice, "wise men don't need it, and fools won't heed it"
Here's where you're 100+% wrong. The Old Testament gave us the 10 commandments, which are the cornerstone of modern jurisprudence. So, you're correct in that we don't need "A book" to be nice to one another, we need law libraries full of them.
Allegedly, "language" is what makes us "human". The drawback is, we transmit scientific information from generation to generation at an alarming rate. We don't however, transmit moral knowledge well, if at all. Whether the Bible is a necessary component of reintroducing morality from one generation to the next is always going to be an issue of great contention. It can certainly help though, if used by someone competent enough to separate its wheat from its chaff, so to speak.
Actually, nature & the evolutionary process should be dictating how whichever species.chooses a mate. It's I believe called, "the survival of the fittest". Me, you ask? I'm kind of hoping the entire next generation is homosexual, and the Chinese stop selling them children. I think we're running out of oil, and it's high time we gave the dinosaurs another shot at making more. After all, if we're to believe the alarmists about global warming, in a couple of decades, we'll have the planet warmed up to where they like it. And the grand prize will be, I'll no longer have to watch two dried up old lesbians sucking face on the evening news.
So, mammalian "marriage", regardless of species, should consist of one individual with male parts, and a second individual with females parts, both of which are ideally the same species, to avoid sterility in future generations.
As far as two individual of the same sex sharing social entitlements such as social security, that's a legal, secular issue, which has been handled very poorly thus far.
And if you'd like to continue running on about Scandinavian societies being more advanced, no need. I agree with you. But you will have to tolerate my politically incorrect way of explaining in. Those societies are more homogeneous than any culture in North America. AFAIK, Scandinavians never made the horrific blunder that was importing slaves from Africa either.
In fact, I have music from Finland which is so incredibly Caucasian, I can use it to hose drug dealers off my steps. "Nightwish or "Epica" ain't hip hop, that's for sure.
And if you'd like to discuss tribal migrations from the Ural and Caucasus regions, Trolls and Valhalla, I'm here for you about that too...(y)
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davislane1
Level 9000 crimethink. Well executed.
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FWIW, 66.7 is 83% of 80. So he's damned close to 80, damned close indeed!
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