Memory makers: SSDs to be mainstream in 2011
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I still don't see any benefit (apart from maybe notebook manufacturers) in using SSD vs disc storage. It is still way too costly and the capacities are considerably smaller then disc. I thought there was supposed to be a huge theoretical speed difference between the two mediums and yet anything I have seen has shown there to be little to no speed difference.
BlackIrish
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CPU and Memory manufacting is not even nearly the same thing (in terms of complexity and price). Btw, according to Intel, we'll see 22nm CPU's somewhere in 2012 I think, so that's far later then the memory chips will be coming.
slh28: which is not really that important over 2TB (I can't imagine anyone having hundreds of HD movies they want to stash away).
I can't help remembering that I thought I'd never fill a 20 mb
hard disc.
I can't help remembering that I thought I'd never fill a 20 mb
hard disc.
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The main point of SSDs in the mainstream market are to accelerate operating systems and programs, not to deliver fast bulk storage. The performance pr cost for these applications (and databases) should be measured in IOPS/$, not bandwidth/$.
What i find most interesting of SSD is their combination of high IOPS/$ combined with really high IOPS/W.
Harddrives deliver around 1-5 IOPS/$ and 10-50 IOPS/W, while SSDs, like x25-M (80GB) can deliver 150-175 IOPS/$ read and 40-60 write, and roughly around 10.000 IOPS/W read and 3000-5000 IOPS/W write.
In addition, the accesstime of SSD are a couple of orders of magnitude faster than harddrives.
I believe we will se massive adoption of SSD as OS-drives throughout 2010, and the trend has already started, but has been halted a bit by low avalibility of x25-M gen2 and high prices for Indilinx based drives compared to Intel.
The tipping point for mass adoption will be when drives that can hold OS+progs (30-80GB depending on the user) with good consistent performance and no major drawbacks reaches 100-150$. I believe Kingston 40GB V (intel based with 5 channels used) will be able to satisfy the lower-capasity end of this, and deliver performance sufficient for HTPCs, netbooks, and "office computers", at cost of aquirement of 100$ or less.
What i find most interesting of SSD is their combination of high IOPS/$ combined with really high IOPS/W.
Harddrives deliver around 1-5 IOPS/$ and 10-50 IOPS/W, while SSDs, like x25-M (80GB) can deliver 150-175 IOPS/$ read and 40-60 write, and roughly around 10.000 IOPS/W read and 3000-5000 IOPS/W write.
In addition, the accesstime of SSD are a couple of orders of magnitude faster than harddrives.
I believe we will se massive adoption of SSD as OS-drives throughout 2010, and the trend has already started, but has been halted a bit by low avalibility of x25-M gen2 and high prices for Indilinx based drives compared to Intel.
The tipping point for mass adoption will be when drives that can hold OS+progs (30-80GB depending on the user) with good consistent performance and no major drawbacks reaches 100-150$. I believe Kingston 40GB V (intel based with 5 channels used) will be able to satisfy the lower-capasity end of this, and deliver performance sufficient for HTPCs, netbooks, and "office computers", at cost of aquirement of 100$ or less.
IvanAwfulitch
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I'm with claycc on that. SSDs going mainstream will be pretty sweet indeed. For me it's not about the money or when it comes how, it's how it performs and how fast it makes things and if it carries an affordable price-tag. As long as it gets mainstreamed, I don't care. Being able to load up Windows 7 on an SSD and getting from startup to desktop in 8 seconds will be fantastic. Gotta love technology.
I hope the SSD becomes mainstream before I need to upgrade to a newer laptop.
My wishlist would be that the non-budget laptops of 2012 should contain :
- an upgradable / replaceable SSD for OS and maybe some performance applications
- and a HDD for most all user files
- a partition on the HDD would back up the SSD and keep the backup in sync realtime (think raid, not that many writes to OS files)
- if the SSD fails or has errors, the HDD copy of files will be accessed automatically
- OS software command to disable SSD and run from HDD which allows simple upgrades to a faster or bigger SSD, and then an OS command to re-sync the SSD to the HDD and re-enable the SSD
- USB 3.0
This would probably require a new OS from Microsoft and I sure hope that they are working on it already.
My wishlist would be that the non-budget laptops of 2012 should contain :
- an upgradable / replaceable SSD for OS and maybe some performance applications
- and a HDD for most all user files
- a partition on the HDD would back up the SSD and keep the backup in sync realtime (think raid, not that many writes to OS files)
- if the SSD fails or has errors, the HDD copy of files will be accessed automatically
- OS software command to disable SSD and run from HDD which allows simple upgrades to a faster or bigger SSD, and then an OS command to re-sync the SSD to the HDD and re-enable the SSD
- USB 3.0
This would probably require a new OS from Microsoft and I sure hope that they are working on it already.
LightHeart
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Just waiting for the prices to become mainstream, like everyone else.
AbsolutGaloot
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Ever since they've been released I've wanted an SSD main drive for its speed and performance, this is awesome that they're finally making it affordable. Now they just need to put USB 3.0 into production and everything will FLY
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The SNIA Solid State Storage Initiative (SSSI) site has a lot of useful information about SSD technology.
http://www.snia.org/forums/sssi
http://www.snia.org/forums/sssi
SSD performance does degrade over time. Windows 7 supports the TRIM command which should restore your SSD to pretty much factory condition and from I have read you can run it daily without reducing the life of your SSD. Maintaining a SSD requires a different approach than a normal hard drive. You don't want to defrag and there are some other Window tweaks that help with performance.
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