Evernessince
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I think you confused my comment a bit here, I wasn't saying that amazon is paying retail. By 3rd party sellers I was referring to scalpers, individuals, and others.
Micro Center reduces the price of its graphics cards for gamers
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I think you confused my comment a bit here, I wasn't saying that amazon is paying retail. By 3rd party sellers I was referring to scalpers, individuals, and others.
captaincranky
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OK well, Amazon is, (very slightly, and only sort of), "paying retail", under the specific conditions I posted.
Second, IMHO, the following post is so badly misinformed, ridiculous, absurd and useless, it needs to be yanked. It's beyond redemption. At the very least, it's muddled enough that it shouldn't have been used as a point of reference.
But, I don't make the rules, and I suppose, "all posters are considered equal", in a democratic forum such as this.
With those things said, we're on post #26, and the thread is rife with comments with no basis in reality, and certainly posters who are completely clueless about how the flow of product and money from fab to end user is accomplished.
Nvidia isn't at fault, nor are their partners. Gigabyte, Asus, and other secondary manufacturers, only buy the chipsets from Nvidia, nothing more. I also doubt that as one poster claimed, (Here: https://www.techspot.com/community/...lers-to-prioritize-gamers-over-miners.243954/), that the Nvidia CEO is, "laughing all the way to the bank". More likely he's kicking himself in the a*, for not commissioning more chipsets at the beginning of the model year run. Hey, everybody's crystal ball takes a sh!t once in a while.
It is those phenomenally greedy "3rd party sellers" who are crapping up the market, and certainly the "miners",(*), who are giving great assistance to ripping themselves off, as well as the gaming community.
The ones who are most likely "laughing all the way to the bank", are the people who summarily decide, "I'm going to create money", using a "chain letter". Whoops, I meant "a block chain".
(*) IMHO, (again), to be called a "miner", is to have gotten your hands dirty once in your life, digging up something tangible, and that actually mattered. Take coal for example..
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Evernessince
Posts: 5,469 +6,158
Yeah, Nvidia and AMD aren't the ones making money off this mining boom. In fact they might loose money if this one busts like the first one did. A bunch of used and mined on cards hitting the market for very low prices. It would be hard for Nvidia to sell Volta/Ampere if used GTX 1080 Tis are only going for $350 because miners are flooding the market.
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davislane1
Broke: Corporations collect all kinds of consumer data and use it to create profiles on people. This is not a good thing.
Woke: Corporations should collect your purchase records to determine if you should be allowed to spend our money on the product(s) you want.
Never figured it would be GPUs that would stir the socialists into demanding more market controls.
I went to microcenter for this discount. 1500 dollars for an asus rog strix 1080ti. They said 1100 was the lowest they could go. I was returning another 1080ti that I paid 750 just before the bubble. I walked out because I couldn't justify the extra 300 dollar price. So glad I did because I got an EVGA ftw3 off of evga.com for 819$ the very next day. Just sign up for email in stock notification and buy quick when you get that email. Good job EVGA! Sorry microcenter.
treetops
Posts: 3,064 +784
They have plenty, the simply noticed how much was being bought and slowly upped their prices.
QuantumPhysics
Posts: 6,306 +7,258
I was in Microcenter Friday.
#1 They pulled up the ads due to the fact that the card prices fluctuate so quickly that they'd be losing money advertising last week's price.
#2 They demand 1 purchase per visit, per week, for your address. LOL
That is reduced from 2 cards on a visit.
#1 They pulled up the ads due to the fact that the card prices fluctuate so quickly that they'd be losing money advertising last week's price.
#2 They demand 1 purchase per visit, per week, for your address. LOL
That is reduced from 2 cards on a visit.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
Well, with some of the reports coming in that both Nvidia and EVGA are selling cards at reasonable prices from their sites, one has to conclude that makers and distributors aren't jacking the dealer costs up, at least not anywhere near the wallet rapings 3rd party sellers are trying to dish out, which are well above MSRP.
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The only way nvidia and amd will get these cards into hands of gamers is to have the aib partners ship 1\3 of the cards out to both nvidia and amd. Then from AMD's or nvidia's website setup so a person can order a card from their website and amd/nvidia will then ship out the xfx/msi/asus / ect. card from there. Essintialy they become the distributor but they would limit purchases to a maximum of 2 cards every 12 months to every housebold. Hell...... Charge an extra $25 per card for the time they have to put in if they want. MSRP + $25 would be great for gamers. Heck, without checking I believe nvidia has this structure set up for ordering cards from them right not for all thier refernce models.
I would agree and would love to see an official Production count. Yes people use cards for cryptocurrency but cryptocurrency is not what manufactures cards and is not the reason why there is a shortage.
pcnthuziast
Posts: 1,515 +1,341
The whole price hike thing is a ploy to condition us consumers to accept higher baseline prices. Every component is more expensive in today's market than just a year ago and will undoubtedly continue to go up. Only platter HDD's, cases and PSU's so far seem pretty static, but everything else is slowly increasing in price.
I am sure they are producing as many as possible, they can sell everyone they make. Adding more production capacity is probably pretty expensive, especially if you can't guarantee at least 5 to10 years of continued use.
Potato Judge
Posts: 161 +73
What did they even announce this? Now miners will target their stores wearing gaming glasses instead of mining hats.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
SSDs seem to have come down a bit. That's because manufacturers transferred their DDR capacity to flash memory. Result, SSDs go down in price, DDR-4 goes up.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
From what I've seen and heard about the prices of anything musical or electronic down under, if would actually be better if you moved up here. That's assuming you could stand the constant barrage of hip-hop music.
dickdon71
Posts: 32 +22
Not sure if I am willing to give up gun control laws and medicare for cheaper prices on musical or electronic items.
captaincranky
Posts: 19,682 +8,814
How could a colony that spread from Botany Bay possibly have enacted gun control legislation?
Besides, we have Medicare....well pretty much......sort of...
I think if you want real socialism, albeit with commensurately high taxes, you have to move to one of the Nordic nations. They get fired up in the 50% tax range, but are still happy as clams.
Good, now we can go to Fry's and pricematch!
As any Microcenter 'member' knows, dealing with Microcenter is a PAIN! anything / anytime you want to price match or return or any normal process, Microcenter has there own negative ways. Price matching the manufacture price is even rejected by Microcenter.
The only thing good at Microcenter is the CPU / MoBo combo deals..(which is about $30 savings). You can price match at Fry's or Best Buy or Staples. (Staples even gives you 10% of the difference ).
I guarantee this reduction of GPU cards sold at Microcenter will have some kind of a catch 22!
Just because GPU prices are starting to go back to ' normal ' doesn't mean Microcenter is special.
As any Microcenter 'member' knows, dealing with Microcenter is a PAIN! anything / anytime you want to price match or return or any normal process, Microcenter has there own negative ways. Price matching the manufacture price is even rejected by Microcenter.
The only thing good at Microcenter is the CPU / MoBo combo deals..(which is about $30 savings). You can price match at Fry's or Best Buy or Staples. (Staples even gives you 10% of the difference ).
I guarantee this reduction of GPU cards sold at Microcenter will have some kind of a catch 22!
Just because GPU prices are starting to go back to ' normal ' doesn't mean Microcenter is special.
Yep, when the 1070's came out they were on sale for $350. Now they are $500+
OvrclockATL
Posts: 6 +1
All that bring said I am short and sweet and I can bet you I have bought,sold,tested and had hands on more gpus than you can possible dream of including all GeForce since day one cards and more than one at a time and multiple board partners even quadroso up to p6000 tested bought sold retail level and Ebay so my basis is off real life not youtube or Google I live in an area where I can get GPUS on a Dailey basis regardless of normal consumer issues and I made that point due to MICROCENTER asking a absurd amount of money for no basis in which within 7 days of me and other you tubers attacking them publicly over it they corrected it AMAZING..... my point was validated within a week.
OvrclockATL
Posts: 6 +1
Great head on your shoulders avoiding the price gouge
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