Microsoft attacks Apple for not having Blu-ray, again

compu4

TS Rookie
flacoman3 said:
You can't give microsoft the stink eye for apple-bashing. Doesn't anyone remember the I'm a Mac commercials? Where they highlighted such points as "look! pc's get viruses and macs don't!"
If apple rises to the market share of MS (they might in the kind-of-distant future), they will feel the burning heat of malicious code writers everywhere that never bothered to write for macs til then.
That's not the worst example. I remember ads on Apple's website that stated that the processor was doing more inside a Mac than it was inside a PC, and commercials that stated Windows Vista was buggier than a mac (without listing specifics).

At least Microsoft is finally fighting back.
 

Decimae

TS Rookie
and @ Decimae I think the whole point was that it isn't an external blu-ray. If you want to go on plane rides with your external bluray drive, that's cool.
I'm not a mac user, but an external drive seems to be an as good option as an internal. Less then 5%(yes, I calculated it) of the laptops being sold in my country have an internal blu-ray drive, and an external blu ray drive won't take much space.

But really, what microsoft is advertising here: "Pcs can do blu ray and macs can't!", which isn't true.
 

MrAnderson

TS Maniac
That was funny. I totally did not expect that. I think it is only fear game since Apple was directing negative attention toward the PC. Most of those Mac and PC comercials were half truths. At least the windows comercials are really direct and hits them where they have been hard pressed to stay.

In other words Apple does intentionally keep their prices up there in spite of the actual technology being less that what PCs offer. But we get that Apple products cost more because they are designed to have a potent user experience that costs money. Nevertheless, its only fair the MS throws out their own spin. Or Apple not wanting to invest in including Blu-ray (probably spinning against it just as hard as MS and their Xbox), but that does not stop MS spinning their lack of support as a bad thing. I'm sure apple does not want to hurt their profit margin and raise the price even higher for blu-ray drives. But the truth is, it is not just about selling HD movies. It also is about giving users options for larger capacity storage devices. But the Kicker is that Apple products being the digital artist friend and all, and they are not allowing their creative users to author on one of the latest technologies. How longer are they planning to hold out, I'm sure we will see it in a refresh of hardware at some point.

I just like that the tables have turned a little. Apple should not dish it and same goes to Mac users. IMHO, don't get high and mighty when doing dirt, then get "uppity" when mud is slug at your camp.

I use a PC more than Apple computers, but I use each in sutuations I prefer and that is what it comes down to, what you feel comfortable using. Don't throw egg if you really don't want yoke in the face.
 

klepto12

TechSpot Paladin
lol M$ makes me laugh at how they say one thing but mean another hmmm facts aren't right here M$ lets see where your going with this first you said that blue ray was a fad now its something you like wow can u say hypocrite lol
 

Darth Shiv

TS Evangelist
Chazz said:
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Really, understand that the 360 and PC are totally different things. Please.
It's all well and good to bag the opposition if they don't support a widely accepted platform but MS isn't widely accepting the platform themselves. If the 360 supported blu-ray, that would be a massive market segment. What percentage of the PC market HAS a blu-ray player even?

3.6% of PCs in 2009 shipped with Blu-ray drives. Adoption expected to reach 16.3% in 2013. Pretty pathetic support really... so in 2+ years, we will still have practically no significant market of PCs with blu-ray drives.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10318450-17.html
 
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jtickner1

I find it funny how it says "and DVD" at the end. Cool video though.
 

Uvindu

TS Booster
Its wars again! Didn't Microsoft say that they will not support blu-ray on their X-Boxes because they don't think that the technology will catch on. Why are they tormenting Mac, and why on earth really, does mac not support blu-ray. I think it will probably catch on, and Mac better not be late to get in with blu-ray drives or they could be losing market share.
 

Richy2k9

TS Enthusiast
hello ...

all this is called business & competition. I LOLed at the fact that MS would criticize another company for what it did in the 1st place. After all we all know that apple doesn't really love standard common things.

In the end, who wins - CUSTOMERS :)

I play on PC & PS3 but would also love to have a MAC for other things ... so i will be happy with each & every company.

cheers!
 

thedrelle

TS Enthusiast
Uvindu said:
Its wars again! Didn't Microsoft say that they will not support blu-ray on their X-Boxes because they don't think that the technology will catch on. Why are they tormenting Mac, and why on earth really, does mac not support blu-ray. I think it will probably catch on, and Mac better not be late to get in with blu-ray drives or they could be losing market share.
That was a bit different. Microsoft was not invested as heavily in the HD-DVD as Sony was with Blue-ray. Sony was involved in the CREATION of the Blue-ray technology, and with the billions they had invested, they fought tooth and nail for it to win.

Microsoft took the safe route by supporting the HD-DVD player, expecting it to win the media war. They only did that as an add-on, so it didn't hinder Xbox sales at all. good business sense, there.

I'm sure we might see blue-ray devices for the Xbox sooner or later, if Microsoft can get Sony to let them.
 

MrAnderson

TS Maniac
...I'm sure we might see blue-ray devices for the Xbox sooner or later, if Microsoft can get Sony to let them.
I don't think that is an issue here. Sony would not stop them. Also people are confusing MS Xbox and Windows platforms. They are choosing what is best for the other. Sure a comment can be taken generally, but MS does not have control what devices are made for the PC.

Moreover, not supporting Blu-ray on a platform (PC and Windows) that is supposed to be open and well... Blu-ray does have to get authored somewhere right? That is so we can actually have retail blu-ray movies right. It would be counter intiutive for them to block it from Windows... actually it would be more costly. Apple makes their hardware so it is much easier to say nay to blu-ray.

It is probably true, blu-ray will have a shorter shelf life than DVD. But it still is a draw for people that purchased the player and the PS3. Xbox would not gain much to add it. The point is we are not talking about xbox. It is about PC and Mac, not game consoles.
 

spyx

TS Rookie
This is sweet, personally i have this thing for Microsoft so I kinda hate apple an all they do, but yea this is pretty good point however i wont be surprised is Apple comes up with some new disc patents it as always and it turns out to be better than blu ray, Glad Microsoft is really doing something, but im surprised there commercials usually suck this is pretty good
 

MrAnderson

TS Maniac
There are already technologies that have greater capacity than Blu-ray even updated versions of blu-ray are coming out that provide more capacity and break compatability with current hardware.

The point is blu-ray is in production and movie companies are not going to make any major shift when they have just started building momentum given the current investment.

Sure apple can come up with a new format, but they still will not be giving their consumers a choice. And that is basically what Windows and the PC is doing. Weather Apple believes Blu-ray will die or not, they are not allowing their customers access to a legitimate business segment in the media industry. And well MS is using that against them.
 

IkarugaShiver

TS Rookie
Liked the style of the vid... Honestly though, I didn't feel like MS had to do this. We already have our own thoughts about which OS is better... xP
 

DSparil

TS Rookie
Pot calling the kettle black, anyone?

I can't see their Xbox 360 having blu-ray.

Sony's the only one who has the right to attack Apple for not having blu-ray. Then again, Sony wouldn't care anyway if they're still using cds.

I guess MS cares.
 

buttus

TS Enthusiast
That is funny. MS said that HD was the format and had the add on for the Xbox...but then when Sony won the format war and MS was asked if they would be putting Bluray into the XBox, they said there was no need to. Now they are ripping Apple for not having it? Talking out both sides of their face on this one.
 
G

Guest

Think you guys are missing alot of intelligence. The HD dvd and Blu-ray wars are over Blu-ray has won. MS is obviously catching up with the market standard while Mac is refusing to acknowledge it. The advert is just there attempt at making a pointless unnesscery attempt at redoing the mac vs pc ads what were pointless. The OS and the consol markets are different so one company like Sony couldn't give a rats butt if MS put blu-ray support on Windows because its a different market and will likely have terms and conditions to insure I a restraining of a technology move to the Xbox.

I'm sure that most of these posts are Mac users and all I can say is grow up, Microsoft is now why can't you?