New AMD graphics chief David Wang says the company will release new GPUs annually

But you called the 780ti, an overclock 780 lol. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

No I didn't, you just failed to read and view the link. It was a dual review of a 780ti beating the R9 290X by 9 percent and an OC version of the 780 beating the 290x by 4 percent.

For some reason my comment pointing out how you were clearly incorrect in your assertion the R9 290X
ROFLStomped Nvidia's best (780 and 780ti).
.......was deleted. So here it is again for anyone to decide who was correct.

I suggest you read properly next time.
 
No I didn't, you just failed to read and view the link. It was a dual review of a 780ti beating the R9 290X by 9 percent and an OC version of the 780 beating the 290x by 4 percent.

For some reason my comment pointing out how you were clearly incorrect in your assertion the R9 290X .......was deleted. So here it is again for anyone to decide who was correct.

I suggest you read properly next time.

yeah I said I got the timeline mixed it. when the 290x was release it was much faster than nvidia's fastest which were the 780 and titan. not 780 and 780ti in my original comment.
 
70 - 80% of gamers are still playing on 1080p 60hz screens. So for the meat of the market the current GPUs on the market are more than sufficient. Just need the retailers to pull their heads out of their arses and quit holding out, with inflated prices,for crypto demand to come back. They need to cover their increased RAM costs and bring their mainstream offerings (RX 580/1060) cards down to $250 - 260 and let the product start flying off the shelves again.
 
I think not. That review is dated 24 October 2013.

Your problem is you need to fast forward less than three weeks to this review, 12 November 2013:

https://www.techspot.com/review/738-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-ti-ghz/

Where the 780ti soundly beats the R9 290X, and what is essentially an overclocked GTX780 that was achievable with most decent partner boards has no trouble facing it down either despite not costing more and displaying less frightening temperature characteristics!

R9 290x was only ok just a month after it arrived for it's price performance. The 290 was the best choice from AMD's lineup at that time by far.

I just had a GTX780 knocking on to 1100Mhz, comfortably facing down R9 290X performance for less outlay and less shocking temperatures.....

I think both you guys make good points. I don't really see the point in arguing more over semantics.
 
Speaking as a developer, you can only target current hardware. There are only so many tricks you can do. If developers have tricks that they would like to do but cannot because of hardware limitations, developers are out of luck until that trick becomes available.

Right. That's certainly the safest way. Use what is currently proven and getting the best out of it. I was just wondering if developers are ever tempted to to slow roll development when promising new tech is being unveiled in hopes of getting an effect they always wanted but didn't believe current tech could handle or produce it.
 
I would rather see the Radeon brand sold off. It really feels like Radeon has become less and less competitive over the last 5 years and I dont think AMD have the money and consumer confidence anymore to revive it. The 290x (released 4.5 years ago) was the last decent card and it wasnt as good as some people here are making it out to be, it was remarkably hot and loud and performed worse than its competitor for the first 2/3 years of its life. Its just aged well but its at the end of its life at this point. According to the steam survey more people are gaming on Intel integrated graphics than AMD graphics cards. And I speak as someone who has mostly owned Radeons over the last 20 years.

I miss my 9800 pro, Radeon has fallen far since those days and it feels like Geforce has stepped up a lot since then.
 
I would rather see the Radeon brand sold off.

I don't. It's like giving up on AMD CPUs because of the construction cores. Then we wouldn't have Ryzen.

I hope that AMD is still capable of creating good GPUs. I don't think another company will do a better job. I prefer to wait and see what AMD releases rather than give up on Radeon.
 
Nobody will develop next gen games if there's no video cards to program for. Developers would never try to push a gtx1080ti cause that's maybe 0.01% of graphics card owners....but they might try to push the limits of a gtx 1070 and we've already seen games that can do that easily @ 4k.
That's a salient point. Who wants to develop for hardware that few would have? You need sales, not presentation points.
 
There have been a few exceptions like crysilis. or badily designed games that require more resources than that which is available but luckily we can change game settings to make it playable
 
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