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Norway's first electric plane crashes into lake

By midian182 · 13 replies
Aug 15, 2019
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  1. As per Reuters, the Alpha Electro G2 plane, the first electric two-seater aircraft to be approved for commercial series production, is owned and operated by Norway’s state-run airport operator, Avinor. Company Chief Executive Dag Falk-Petersen was piloting the two-seater on the day of the crash, when he was showcasing the plane to high-profile passengers. Aase Marthe Horrigmo, a junior government minister, was riding with him at the time of the incident. Both were unharmed.

    Precisely what caused the plane to crash is still unclear. According to Forbes, the pilot lost power from the engines as he was approaching the airport to land. He believes the plane was traveling at 43 mph when it hit the water. “I made a mayday call and looked for a place to land,” Falk-Petersen told public broadcaster NRK.

    Avinor told Reuters last year it hoped to see commercial passenger flights on electric planes by 2025, with all domestic flights electrified by 2040.

    Norway leads the way when it comes to electric cars, with more EVs on the road per capita than any other country; they accounted for sixty percent of car sales in March this year.

    The big problem with electric planes is the weight, with the heavy batteries resulting in limited ranges. The Alpha Electro G2 has a range of about 81 miles and a maximum flight time of an hour.

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  2. Manya3084

    Manya3084 TS Enthusiast Posts: 22   +34

    Yeah...nah
    I'll take my chances with jet fuel.
    Pretty sure LiPo's could melt steel beams.
     
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  3. Vulcanproject

    Vulcanproject TS Evangelist Posts: 755   +1,091

    Power density is only one major factor for cars, but it's everything for aircraft. Range and payload. The efficiency of high bypass jet engines today is so incredible electrifying aircraft is much, much further away than everyone having electric cars.

    Besides the fact you can run turbines on a long list of viable alternatives to fossil fuels. I have seen turbines running on everything from vodka to perfume to peanut oil. Sustainable biofuel is realistic when oil starts to run out/gets very expensive, which means that even post oil apocalypse we can still fly on vacation. That's ok then.
     
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  4. Sochsun

    Sochsun TS Member

    Man, if you could take all the battery advancements posted on this site over the years (graphene batteries, year of year increases in battery density, immersion cooling, aluminium air, etc), and make all those improvements simultaneously, you could have a battery that would work in this application.

    Because I absolutely love the idea of a plane that I plug in overnight to then fly the next day.
     
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  5. Lew Zealand

    Lew Zealand TS Guru Posts: 773   +659

    Lemme fix that for you:

    "Norway leads the way when it comes to [subsidizing the $#¡† out of] electric cars, with more EVs on the road per capita than any other country; they accounted for sixty percent of car sales in March this year."
     
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  6. petert

    petert TS Evangelist Posts: 360   +159

    This is how they started with electric cars. I remember being a student at the beginning of 2000's and taking a course called "Electric Traction". They were talking about a two seater Fiat with 20km range and which could not approach but the mildest of slopes. And it was running on lead based battery, albeit there was a discussion of replacing this technology with gel batteries (you would not want the acid pouring on you in a crash where you are trapped in an upside down car).
     
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  7. sdsdv10

    sdsdv10 TS Rookie

    There is one other significant difference. As a ICE based plan uses up its fuel, the play gets lighter, potentially increasing range as the tanks empty. With an electric powered plan, the batteries just become dead weight as their reserves are drawn down.
     
  8. Markoni35

    Markoni35 TS Addict Posts: 266   +115

    This is just an intermediate phase before they start selling nuclear-fusion based generators. I saw it in Terminator.
     
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  9. Capaill

    Capaill TS Evangelist Posts: 919   +508

    Nobody was harmed. But I wonder how many fish were fried when the electric plane hit the water :)
     
  10. clytndn

    clytndn TS Member

    We already have these...you just can't fly *in* them.
     
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  11. MMWWMM

    MMWWMM TS Rookie

    Why then we would not make airplanes with electric engines powered by hydrogen? Hindenburg was the thing a long time ago, and we maked a lot of progress
     
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  12. Irata

    Irata TS Rookie Posts: 22   +13

    Electric cars started much earlier. They actually outsold gasoline powered vehicles in the early 20th century. So this is not new technology.
     
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  13. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,389   +1,020

    When the battery dies, so do you.

    EV makes no sense at all for aircraft.

    Fuel burning gives aircraft the power to generate electricity and manipulate air pressure or liquid pressure to move hydraulics in ways batteries can't be trusted to.
     
  14. Danny101

    Danny101 TS Guru Posts: 822   +324

    Don't forget Norway to shield all your electric planes, trains, and automobiles from the inevitable solar flares.
     

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