thats easy to answer, MOST people dont play those games that get benchmarked... we regular folks play a lot of other games, also, for example, I have a 6600 and I play spider man @ 4k perfectly fine. I dont care about 120++++ fps or ray tracing or otther stuff. I ran the game, gave me a messaged that my 6600 wasnt enough and it runs perfect! FRS? I know what is it, but honestly, everything I throw at my 6600 runs at full hd. and my kid has a 7 5700g / 1650 and he plays everything he wants to play at full hd. (lol mostly roblox)I mean, there's a very distinct set of games for PC and consoles. And then there's some in between.
For instance, I'd never play TLOU, or CTR, or Horizon on the PC. Just like I'd never play SC2 or D2R on a console.
But having to spend several thousand dollars for a high-end gaming PC is a complete joke. Not to mention the utter lack of resale options. On consoles I can grab the disc used for half the price, then pass onto the next person - idealliy for the same price. So you can literally play for free. On the PC everything's linked to your accounts.
So yeah, PC gaming is outperforming consoles, but I just can't understand how. Do people have too much money to spend?
$150-200 card what year is it? It's not 2007/8 when you could buy an ATI 4850 and it would run all your games at 1080p for $150. I'll be honest the main stream price is easily $250-300 nowadays due to inflation.thats easy to answer, MOST people dont play those games that get benchmarked... we regular folks play a lot of other games, also, for example, I have a 6600 and I play spider man @ 4k perfectly fine. I dont care about 120++++ fps or ray tracing or otther stuff. I ran the game, gave me a messaged that my 6600 wasnt enough and it runs perfect! FRS? I know what is it, but honestly, everything I throw at my 6600 runs at full hd. and my kid has a 7 5700g / 1650 and he plays everything he wants to play at full hd. (lol mostly roblox)
my point is that these benchmarks are nice, but, regular people just dont care. any 150/200 us graphic card is enough for them
Imagine someone bought an 8700 or 8800 and then offered something a little better? It happens. And didn't AMD do this with the 7900 XT and XTX? Didn't they drop prices like a month or two after launch?Imagine someone bought a 4080 and now they are offered something a little better in both price and performance, ouch!!!
I too once owned the 5700XT. I have mentioned before in other threads, and I will mention here again. I never faced any of the so-called "driver issues" with this AMD GPU. Many of the posters seem to like to parrot in the same old song, even if they never owned one.I owned an RX 5700 and there were certain games I had driver level issues with, but it was game specific. Other games were very smooth. I can't say that I have had any issue with Nvidia's drivers, but I think the driver related issues with AMD are overstated.
Having owned the card and seeing firsthand those specific driver related issues, I assure you that I'm not parroting anything. Don't assume just because you had a good experience that your experience is everyone's experience. Driver issues could be related to a lot of things, and you might have just had a build that avoided some issues that others experienced. I said the driver issues were overblown, but I also said that I definitely had some issues in specific games. I don't think you should skip an AMD card because of drivers, plus I'm sure by now RDNA3 has benefited greatly from RDNA's initial driver issues. I had a good experience with the 5700, it was a great GPU, on par with the 2070 except for RT, which, at the time made no difference and really still doesn't with that GPU.I too once owned the 5700XT. I have mentioned before in other threads, and I will mention here again. I never faced any of the so-called "driver issues" with this AMD GPU. Many of the posters seem to like to parrot in the same old song, even if they never owned one.
I now own a Nvidia card (anyone can guess what it is) not because my RX5700XT gave me problems but my best friend who is less fortunate financially, was struggling after his trusty 750Ti died down and I wanted to share with him a good, no, a great graphics card with him, while I can upgrade to a newer card to play my preferred games in 4K (since I upgraded my TV and monitor to 4K) with all settings maxed out. I never use RT though, since I find it useless and needlessly bogs down any card.
RX5700XT was a great card, and was the king of 1440p back then, when it came to performance and value combined, and is still a good card now.
Coming back to the topic, the so called AMD driver issues were disproportionately blown out of the way.
Any glitches seen might as well been seen with Nvidia cards anyway. And this is coming from an Nvidia user now.
*And yes, I gave my ex-graphics card for free to my best friend.
Maybe it's just the low wages and high taxes of the EU that are hurting you Moreso then the price of tech itself.
At the same price I'd do the same thing. There's just no getting around the issue of AMD RT performance. Without RT the 7900xtx has a slight advantage, but with RT there's no comparison, and at some point, RT is going to become common enough to be a major issue going forward.
I bought a 4080 for $1100 six months ago, I have manually overclocked it and my results are 2% to 3% better than what the YouTube reviews benchmark are showing the 4080S to be, so I feel that there is not reason to feel "bad" about it. Basically I paid $100 more for the same card.A big No no no for me, I'll wait for AMD 8700xt or 8800xt if they can do what they did with the 5700xt. Time to say a big No for GPU cost more than 1000usd/euros. Btw, I really don't like the way NVIDIA is manipulating the market however they want. Imagine someone bought a 4080 and now they are offered something a little better in both price and performance, ouch!!!
if the other is out of stockHere the Super is the exact same price as the non-Super.. Why on earth would you buy the "standard 4080" when you could buy a new "super" for exact same price??
Nvidia is playing a heck of a lot of games to dictate retail pricing I'm guessing. I'd actually be very keen to see how the retailer plays this (old stock v new).. or do they simply just write each 4080 down by $200 or so to put it down an offset against their yearly profits.
There is some weird **** going on, and none of it smells good.