Nvidia to reportedly cut GeForce graphics cards prices

[transerv]

You people keep forgetting these cards are made in China for pennies on the $$ by the time they go mass production a 980 cost 50$ to make these cars already have a 80 % mark up.

 

[cliffordcooley]

An 80% markup on $50 equates to only $90. I'd love to find a 980 for only $90.

 

[RoosterFish2]

You people keep forgetting these cards are made in China for pennies on the $$ by the time they go mass production a 980 cost 50$ to make these cars already have a 80 % mark up.

Labor cost is not the only consideration to be made when pricing goods.

 

[LNCPapa]

"The GTX 970 will drop to $299, down from its launch and still current price of $329."

This was never the "current" price, these cards have been well above $400 since launch and even as high as $521, thanks newegg... .

I'm confused - I got a 970 on release for $330 and then two more 970 STRIX cards just a couple months later for $350 each. Surely you don't expect to buy one of the higher end (non-reference) boards for the same price as reference? Here's the current listing on Newegg (US) now for 970s. It starts as low as $279 today.

The card you linked isn't even sold by Newegg - its' sold and shipped by Compute4Less Corp.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709 600030348 600536049&cm_sp=tab_computer-hardware_3-_-visnav-_-NVIDIA-GTX_2

 

[hahahanoobs]

We know so much about Pascal today, and how revolutionary it is. We know almost nothing about the "new" AMD product, because there is nothing to know there, as usual.

We also know Nvidia lie through their teeth on a daily basis.

Maybe pascal will be everything they claim, but based on their past claims with vram, dx12, batman arkham city performance, gameworks in general and a laundry list of other controversies they've been involved in, I'm a little skeptical to say the least.

Oh I can't wait for you to post these daily lies....

 

[feathers632]

This will cripple AMD even further.

I predict that in 3 month when Pascal is announced it will be the end for AMD graphics.

How is that exactly? You're not taking into account that AMD already has their next-gen cards in the pipeline, not just Nvidia with their Pascal.

AMD's next-gen video card is as always another re-brand. They have been caught in their own lies for a number of years now.

We know so much about Pascal today, and how revolutionary it is. We know almost nothing about the "new" AMD product, because there is nothing to know there, as usual.

Even more watts to the pile, this time with liquid nitrogen?

Yes, it's a minefield with ATI... Are you getting a new generation GPU or a fake one rebranded. I read that Nvidia have 85% of the GPU market. Helped by their support for VR with SLI VR and single pass oculus image warp.

 

[Reehahs]

This will cripple AMD even further.

I predict that in 3 month when Pascal is announced it will be the end for AMD graphics.

How is that exactly? You're not taking into account that AMD already has their next-gen cards in the pipeline, not just Nvidia with their Pascal.

AMD's next-gen video card is as always another re-brand. They have been caught in their own lies for a number of years now.

We know so much about Pascal today, and how revolutionary it is. We know almost nothing about the "new" AMD product, because there is nothing to know there, as usual.

Even more watts to the pile, this time with liquid nitrogen?

Still not as revolutionary as GCN 1.1. You will see why next year. Concurrent Async Compute is the magic phrase.

We have been informed enough to know that AMD's next GPUs will be a great evolution rather than a rebrand. AMD does a lot of rebranding because their GPUs actually have a long life. TressFX works as far back as HD7xxx series. Try running GameWorks on a GTX 7xx card. nVidia gimps their own cards to force upgrades after two years.

I don't know about Nvidia gimping alone but I have been rocking a GTX 590 and it still works like a charm. If you get a high end product then it will last your years. The 580 before the current GPU lasted me 3.5 years before I got the 590.

 

[Adrianthedude]

I have stuck with AMD, recently buying a Sapphire Nitro R390. Quite satisfied although I must admit that I find the prices of gaming video cards insanely high, much less the cost of two or three.
I feel as ripped off as when buying bicycle parts. Some carbon fibre, two wheels and a groupset when for the same money you can buy a Suzuki GSXR 1000 motorcycle. Don't see how these prices are justified.
I guess in the end no one is forcing you to buy them, but when it affects the things you really enjoy the situation is unfortunate

Graphics Card prices are justified. Where do you think massive speed gains are coming from each year? Large investments in R&D are required and the production isn't cheap either. Bicycles on the other hand haven't changed much in years.

AHAHAHAH As a cyclist, I really laugh at this comment.
Maybe you haven't looked at the new bike technology or wheel technology, or hell, even tire technology.
They now have Aerodynamic tires that give you split second advantages(which DO help over a 50 mile race).
Wheels are carbon fibre and getting more and more lightweight, and also more efficient with aerodynamics, as are bikes. As are shifters, as are the set up of the bike, its profile. ETC ETC...Bikes and their components have changed, each have high R&D costs, much like computing.

The problem is, there isn't hundreds of thousands of people buying the new tech before they make yet ANOTHER leap in technology. So the price remains high.
If as many people buy performance cycling gear or GPU's as they do consoles, prices would drop significantly.

 

[Evernessince]

AHAHAHAH As a cyclist, I really laugh at this comment.
Maybe you haven't looked at the new bike technology or wheel technology, or hell, even tire technology.
They now have Aerodynamic tires that give you split second advantages(which DO help over a 50 mile race).
Wheels are carbon fibre and getting more and more lightweight, and also more efficient with aerodynamics, as are bikes. As are shifters, as are the set up of the bike, its profile. ETC ETC...Bikes and their components have changed, each have high R&D costs, much like computing.

The problem is, there isn't hundreds of thousands of people buying the new tech before they make yet ANOTHER leap in technology. So the price remains high.
If as many people buy performance cycling gear or GPU's as they do consoles, prices would drop significantly.

Show me that bike R&D exceeds video card R&D

https://ycharts.com/companies/NVDA/r_and_d_expense

Sure, they'll advance things for bikes little by little. All that proves is that their pretty much at a dead end as far as advancement is concerned. 3d printers may change that at some point.

"Bikes and their components have changed"

Bikes have remained largely the same design since they were first invented. Many of the systems that make up a bicycle haven't changed at all.

 

[Evernessince]

This will cripple AMD even further.

I predict that in 3 month when Pascal is announced it will be the end for AMD graphics.

How is that exactly? You're not taking into account that AMD already has their next-gen cards in the pipeline, not just Nvidia with their Pascal.

AMD's next-gen video card is as always another re-brand. They have been caught in their own lies for a number of years now.

We know so much about Pascal today, and how revolutionary it is. We know almost nothing about the "new" AMD product, because there is nothing to know there, as usual.

Even more watts to the pile, this time with liquid nitrogen?

Yes, it's a minefield with ATI... Are you getting a new generation GPU or a fake one rebranded. I read that Nvidia have 85% of the GPU market. Helped by their support for VR with SLI VR and single pass oculus image warp.

More AMD cards have support for VR than Nvidia.

 

[9Nails]

Clearing out store shelves before Oculus Rift suggests stronger 4K GPU support.

 

[feathers632]

More AMD cards have support for VR than Nvidia.

Which AMD cards have support for VR and what is that support?

 

[Evernessince]

Which AMD cards have support for VR and what is that support?

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vr

All GCN amd cards support Liquid VR. For those who don't know, that does all the way back to the radeon 7000 series. In otherwords, pretty much all AMD users.

 

[feathers632]

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vr

All GCN amd cards support Liquid VR. For those who don't know, that does all the way back to the radeon 7000 series. In otherwords, pretty much all AMD users.

So what games are supporting liquidVR?

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/356d8i/amds_liquid_vr_only_available_on_r9_380s/

Hard to know which ATI cards aren't fake rebrands.

Search for LiquidVR games yields nothing so I guess there are no LiquidVR games.

Meanwhile over at Nvidia we have many many titles.

 

[Evernessince]

So what games are supporting liquidVR?

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/356d8i/amds_liquid_vr_only_available_on_r9_380s/

Hard to know which ATI cards aren't fake rebrands.

Search for LiquidVR games yields nothing so I guess there are no LiquidVR games.

Meanwhile over at Nvidia we have many many titles.

You need to start reading before you shoot your mouth off. I proved that you were wrong about Nvidia having more cards that support VR and I can do it again here.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vr

LiquidVR doesn't need to be supported on each and every game. The only requirement is that said game supports a VR headset on AMD's support list, which are pretty much all of them.

"Hard to know which ATI cards aren't fake rebrands."

Completely irrelevant to the topic of VR.

The only thing I can gather is that your Nvidia fanboy. You even have Clifford Cooley, the biggest Nvidia fanboy on techspot, liking your posts.

 

[cliffordcooley]

You even have Clifford Cooley, the biggest Nvidia fanboy on techspot, liking your posts.

Why thank you Mr. AMD Fanboy! I'm not beyond admitting my standing. If it makes you feel better, who am I to deprive you?

 

[feathers632]

You need to start reading before you shoot your mouth off. I proved that you were wrong about Nvidia having more cards that support VR and I can do it again here.

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/technologies-gaming/vr

LiquidVR doesn't need to be supported on each and every game. The only requirement is that said game supports a VR headset on AMD's support list, which are pretty much all of them.

"Hard to know which ATI cards aren't fake rebrands."

Completely irrelevant to the topic of VR.

The only thing I can gather is that your Nvidia fanboy. You even have Clifford Cooley, the biggest Nvidia fanboy on techspot, liking your posts.

Flappy bun. You've gone all psychotic. I guess it didn't take much to push you over the edge.

On topic: It's great if ATI VR works with pretty much all cards and doesn't need game coding.

Can it do the Oculus image warping in a single pass?

Your link has another link to more advanced liquidVR at the bottom of page.

The link is broken:

For in-depth technical details on LiquidVR, go to http://developer.amd.com/liquid-vr/

Reminds me of their 3d glasses broken links a few years ago. Bizarre.