You sure like cherry picking, wheres your link to show rest of the data.
Here is the whole benchmark. Throughout the whole of it he kept talking about how the i5 got **** on by the R5. He talked about the R5 burning the i5 to the ground, the i5 having catastrophic drops in heavy scenes etcetera. Not my words.
And mind you, DF does one of best most thorough benchmarks.
If the 1300x with 4 cores can't max a 1070 or 1080 then 6 of the same cores is NOT going to help either. And DDR4-4000, add another $100 or $150 to you R5 will ya. That stuff is not free. And it has already been demonstrated where Ryzen's limits are, none of then can max a GTX1080ti for sure and they are already capping 1440p on even a GTX1070.
Okay, since you are full of nonsense, I'll have to say something in order to properly debunk the **** you are sprouting. First of all, there is no CPU around that can max any card in every game. For example, even 7700k at 6ghz WILL bottleneck a 1080ti in some games. Dota 2 for example.
So with that said, let's proceed. Are there games that will bottleneck the 1080ti on 1080p on an R5? Sure. But as I've said above, there are games that will also bottleneck the i5 AND the i7! So saying that Ryzen bottlenecks a 1080ti is just dumb and meaningless. ALL cpus can bottleneck a 1080ti, it entirely depends on the game. You are just being biased towards Intel here.
The fact of the matter is the R5 1600 offers a better gaming experience all around than an i5, it is about 70 to 100€ cheaper and completely demolishes it in most other tasks. Now with that said, please show the benchmarks where a 1070 was bottlenecked on 1440p on an R5 (and that it doesn't do the same thing on an i5). That doesn't exist, does it?
You like to make irrelevant nonsensical comparisons. Not going spend more time of 2013 vintage garbage. I just got rid of a FX-8320, 2 more cores than your fx-6350, and still managed to bottleneck the GTX970, while my even older i5-2500K will handle the same GTX970 just fine.
I agree, the 8 core fx's weren't that good compared to the similarly priced 2500k. I had an fx 8350. Although I really doubt it bottlenecked your 970.
Desperately making up lies now aren't you. nVidia released the GTX1060 6GB at $249 see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series
Current market prices due to crypto currency mining does NOT allow AMD to set a higher MSRP just because they feel being greedy. We as consumers can see this a blatant attempt as selling less for more.
Nonsense. That's MSRP, not the actual price. There never was a 1060 6gb for 250$, cheapest I could find throughout all Europe was 270€, that's 300$. That was 8 months ago mind you. I know the prices back then because I actually bought one.
Oh, so now we changed from MSRP to market price? You are a disgusting dishonest intel fanboy. I won't be replying to you if you keep this up, this is the first and final warning. If you want to have a discussion stop acting dishonestly, otherwise I'm done with you
But case in point, I agree, the 1800x is overpriced. So what? The 1700 is the exact same thing much cheaper. Also, there is the R5 1600 at 200$. That's a steal frankly.
You got do better than posting blatant lies. It dosen't take google long to find hard facts. BTW if AMD wasn't overpriced why has that R7 1800x dropped from $500 to $350 already. And microcenter even give it another $30 discount for a mobo, so essentially $320. So my $250 price is really NOT all that unrealistic or unreasonable. Which is all to say AMD is overpriced and AMD knows it. Now that they ran out of donations from the fanboys, the market will assert the true pricing
Because AMD only has one processor, the 1800x, therefore if the 1800x is overpriced then the entire AMD's lineup is overpriced? Lol, bullocks. You are, once again, dishonest, biased and hold double standards. The i7's and the i5's prices also dropped btw, you didn't seem to mention it. Could you buy a 7700k a year ago for 280$? Again, last warning, next time you are getting ignored. Either stop being a biased **** or welcome to my ignore list.
You are paying more for less with AMD. You will be taking a massive loss on bang-for-the-buck to go with AMD right now, for anything but the 1300x with the $30 discount at Microcenter.
No you are not. The R5 1600 completely demolishes everything in it's price range, the more expensive i5 7600k included. It's not even a contest. Double the performance in most tasks, similar performance in gaming, comes with a cooler, cheaper motherboards and long term support for the socket. Sorry, comparing the R5 to an i5 in terms of vfm is a joke.
Actually, if I were to be as dishonest and biased as you are, I could point out that the i5 7600k even bottlenecks a 1060 in Crysis 3 for example. Should I now keep repeating that the i5 bottlenecks a 1060 as my main point during this back and forth exactly as you are doing? Nah, I'm not a disgusting dishonest fanboy, sorry.