Overclocking the Radeon RX 5700 XT: 2.1 GHz on Liquid Cooling

[Julio Franco]

After testing the AMD's new Radeon 5700 GPUs and Nvidia's RTX Super answer, we are particularly happy about the value offered by the latest Radeons. The $400 5700 XT is very attractive at its designated price point, but what if we pushed the hardware to its limits with some liquid cooling action?

Read the full article here.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1883-overclocking-radeon-rx-5700/

 

[QuantumPhysics]

I'm not an AMD GPU fan.

But:

I'd be way more receptive to their cards if they offered the most powerful cards with a built in closed-loop liquid cooler like my 2080Ti FTW3 hybrid.

I specifically DID NOT want a build that looked like "a circus toilet" and I think there's a lot of other potential buyers who want an RGB-less solution that they can trust not to overheat during long gaming sessions. I didn't want to install my own plumbing and I prefer the 0-maintenance, warrantied performance of my tower's closed-loop CPU cooler and my GPU's as well. And the best part is the overclocking software perfectly supports and recognizes the radiator/pump/fan.

 

[Puiu]

How is the power efficiency scaling? Is there a sweet spot between 1.9GHz and 2.1GHz where it makes sense to OC on air and keep the power draw low-ish?

 

[GreenNova343]

Since I don't need the power of the 2070 Super, let alone a 2080 or 2080 TI, paying extra to liquid cool the 5700 doesn't sound very appealing. But at stock the 5700 seems like an appealing future upgrade for me...

 

[p51d007]

When I was a teenager, we'd jack up the rear of our car, put huge tires, 4bbl carbs, headers and stuff like that. Today, kids just "overclock" their computers because they know nothing about cars

 

[hahahanoobs]

Today, kids just "overclock" their computers because they know nothing about cars

Source please....

 

[Evernessince]

Is there a chance that Navi puts a lot of data through the PCIe bus and thus is bottle necked by PCIe 3.0?

 

[hahahanoobs]

Is there a chance that Navi puts a lot of data through the PCIe bus and thus is bottle necked by PCIe 3.0?

Bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 slot power limits - maybe, but it's not the fastest card tested next to PCIe 3.0 cards for more bandwidth to make any difference.

 

[Evernessince]

Bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 slot power limits - maybe, but it's not the fastest card tested next to PCIe 3.0 cards for more bandwidth to make any difference.

Yeah I figured the chances are slim but it's a new architecture, maybe AMD changed something in that regard.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 slot power limits - maybe, but it's not the fastest card tested next to PCIe 3.0 cards for more bandwidth to make any difference.

Yeah I figured the chances are slim but it's a new architecture, maybe AMD changed something in that regard.

Maybe that could change if we ever see a 5800XT or 5900XT.

 

[neeyik]

It won't be a PCIe bottleneck, data or power, as very little data is bus streamed during benchmarking and the majority of the current draw comes from the additional 12V lines. I can't tell if the memory was overclocked or not, as it may well be an issue in that area.

Edit: Just been doing some F1 2019 testing on a Titan X Pascal:

Game setting: 1440p Ultra
Core | RAM -- Min | Av | Max
1848 | 5006 -- 107 | 135 | 151
1974 | 5006 -- 111 | 140 | 157
1848 | 5152 -- 108 | 135 | 151
1974 | 5152 -- 113 | 142 | 158

A 6.8% core increase yields a 3.7 to 4% fps increase, whereas a 2.9% RAM increase yields a 0 to 0.9% fps increase. Core and RAM overclock together gives 4.6 to 5.6% fps increase. This suggests (only suggests) that a core-only overclock will be notably restricted if there is no RAM increase.

 

[andyyy]

I assume the 5700XT cost per frame numbers are using the heavy OC? would be nice to see both.

Also Not sure what your amazon is but here on east coast USA the 2070 Super is over $600. that bumps it down on the cost per frame scale.

 

[pcnthuziast]

I assume the 5700XT cost per frame numbers are using the heavy OC? would be nice to see both.

Also Not sure what your amazon is but here on east coast USA the 2070 Super is over $600. that bumps it down on the cost per frame scale.

Newegg has a Gigabyte 3 fan 2070 super in stock for 550.

 

[Rankdropper84]

This whole thing is done in 1440p and not 4k. Unless I'm missing something and not seeing it this review feels slightly biased in the numbers it's giving off. Nice to see 1440p ultra settings though.

 

[PetrolHead]

When I was a teenager, we'd jack up the rear of our car, put huge tires, 4bbl carbs, headers and stuff like that. Today, kids just "overclock" their computers because they know nothing about cars

Don't they also overclock their cars by having the ECU remapped?

 

[Anansi]

I'm not an AMD GPU fan.

But:

I'd be way more receptive to their cards if they offered the most powerful cards with a built in closed-loop liquid cooler like my 2080Ti FTW3 hybrid.

I specifically DID NOT want a build that looked like "a circus toilet" and I think there's a lot of other potential buyers who want an RGB-less solution that they can trust not to overheat during long gaming sessions. I didn't want to install my own plumbing and I prefer the 0-maintenance, warrantied performance of my tower's closed-loop CPU cooler and my GPU's as well. And the best part is the overclocking software perfectly supports and recognizes the radiator/pump/fan.

There are tons of air cooled cards (much better if you want 0 maintenance) that don't have RGB or just can turn the RGB off. And AMD has released liquid cooled high and parts in the past, AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition for example.

AMD does not focus on the high end market very much and prefers to focus on the market where the real money is at the 250-400 mark. This is an effect from there smaller budget, they need to focus development where it pays it self back. I do not have proof for this, but I think the 2080 Ti and NV cards like it never return their development costs, and are used as a marketing tool to have the "best" for people like you.

 

[Anansi]

Since I don't need the power of the 2070 Super, let alone a 2080 or 2080 TI, paying extra to liquid cool the 5700 doesn't sound very appealing. But at stock the 5700 seems like an appealing future upgrade for me...

I think a 5700 with something like an Arctic Xtreme IV would do great with a small power limit bump

 

[CaptainCrazy501]

When I was a teenager, we'd jack up the rear of our car, put huge tires, 4bbl carbs, headers and stuff like that. Today, kids just "overclock" their computers because they know nothing about cars

bAcK iN mY DaY1!1!!!

 

[Nobina]

When I was a teenager, we'd jack up the rear of our car, put huge tires, 4bbl carbs, headers and stuff like that. Today, kids just "overclock" their computers because they know nothing about cars

Don't they also overclock their cars by having the ECU remapped?

Old cars didn't have an ECU. Unless you meant todays kids.

 

[KamiDes]

They should just optimize these games for amd... Look at the only amd optimized game smoked the 2080 ti that's crazy..
But all the other are nvidia optimized and amd held strong.. If all games were amd optimized the xt would destroy nvidia....

 

[p51d007]

Source please....

"Liberty insurance was there at 1 O'clock in the morning, when my son had a flat tire...(switch to son & friend standing by the side of the road, one saying to the other...is this a lug wrench"

 

[Theinsanegamer]

I'm not an AMD GPU fan.

But:

I'd be way more receptive to their cards if they offered the most powerful cards with a built in closed-loop liquid cooler like my 2080Ti FTW3 hybrid.

I specifically DID NOT want a build that looked like "a circus toilet" and I think there's a lot of other potential buyers who want an RGB-less solution that they can trust not to overheat during long gaming sessions. I didn't want to install my own plumbing and I prefer the 0-maintenance, warrantied performance of my tower's closed-loop CPU cooler and my GPU's as well. And the best part is the overclocking software perfectly supports and recognizes the radiator/pump/fan.

There are tons of air cooled cards (much better if you want 0 maintenance) that don't have RGB or just can turn the RGB off. And AMD has released liquid cooled high and parts in the past, AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition for example.

AMD does not focus on the high end market very much and prefers to focus on the market where the real money is at the 250-400 mark. This is an effect from there smaller budget, they need to focus development where it pays it self back. I do not have proof for this, but I think the 2080 Ti and NV cards like it never return their development costs, and are used as a marketing tool to have the "best" for people like you.

*looks at the massive profits nvidia has been turning for the last 3+ years from the geforce division

Yeah, something tells me you are talking out of your @$$ here. Nvidia is having 0 issue making stupid money off of their large GPUs, the margins on something even as large as the 2080ti are huge.

People have been parroting "Nvidia cant make much money of massive GPUs" for years while nvidia laughs all the way to the bank.

 

[Manya3084]

I'll wait for big Navi. 2 x water-cooled Vega FEs are enough for now.

 

[Krydsvard]

They should just optimize these games for amd... Look at the only amd optimized game smoked the 2080 ti that's crazy..
But all the other are nvidia optimized and amd held strong.. If all games were amd optimized the xt would destroy nvidia....

Besides amd will increase performance with newer drivers(as they did with rx580) so 5700 still has potential to grow. At the same time nvidia won't do anything about their super cards because they already at its limit.

 

[Rankdropper84]

Is there a chance that Navi puts a lot of data through the PCIe bus and thus is bottle necked by PCIe 3.0?

Bottlenecked by PCIe 3.0 slot power limits - maybe, but it's not the fastest card tested next to PCIe 3.0 cards for more bandwidth to make any difference.

its because the damn test wasn't done in multiple resolutions. this writer is either lazy or looking to prove a point about which is better (nvidia vs amd) by stacking the deck. Would be awesome to see 4k FPS although unfortunately we cant and most arent smart enough to notice the details of his benchmarks *sad *** world* lol