PC vs CONSOLE gaming

[Acidwinter]

I dunno

Ive played COD2 for both 360 and PC and I have to say I dont see a difference. Same graphics, same or about the same rate of FPS. Im quite dissapointed with the 360 actually. Ive seen better looking PC games. But when I saw a 30 second move for the PS3, I about sh*t yon brick.

 

[LNCPapa]

CoD2 on the 360 is supposed to be one of the worst looking games on the system in that genre. I felt the same way the first time I saw it on the 360 since I had already played it on the PC.

 

[shaggy_colt]

look if your computer sucks your gonna buy a consle but if your computer kicks more **** than arnold swartinager than you best buy some damn good games for it if you dident know that your de de de :monkey:

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

look if your computer sucks your gonna buy a consle but if your computer kicks more **** than arnold swartinager than you best buy some damn good games for it if you dident know that your de de de :monkey:

Yeah that's right but the main thing is, there are some games that are not released on the PC and restricted only to consoles and vice-versa. Whether or not that gap can be bridged depends largely upon the power of consoles compared to PCs from the same generation. The problem with this debate is also that we can have several different PC configurations but in order to compare a console to a PC, we need to have a standard configuration, since a console's config is fixed. That itself is difficult to determine, since what's standard in one place, is a rarity in the other. For example, most guys I've seen in this forum own AMD Athlon 64s. So its commonplace. But here, in the UAE, almost everyone owns an Intel P4 HT and most people haven't even heard of the Athlon 64 or the Intel Extreme Edition CPUs or even AMD for that matter, even though AMD costs much lesser here.

 

[SultanGris]

bottom line, top of the line PC is and always will be better than console, no question. if you fail to understand that, then your dumb, and will never understand, sorry for your luck. PC's rule, consoles dont even compare.

 

[CrossFire851]

You ppl are making the pc and the gamming consol sound like fire and water. They are the same thing, now think about really think hard, a consol is a small box with a computer in it that over heats, frezees up do to no patches. Now the pros best technogly for that year but technogly is being improved everyday. you put the game in and play. A simple composite S-video to your tv, rca's to your sound system, and your good to go.

Now with comp

Games usally don't freeze up
They can be updated to make an old game fun again
you can check emails and photos from friends and family hey even techspot
games arent limmited to certen hardware so there
usally don't have to pay for online gamming.


Me Im for the PC athough when the PS3 comes out I'll be in line

 

[CrossFire851]

Basically, the Xbox 360 has a 3.2 Ghz IBM CPU. This power is dedicated to graphics only, unlike a computer, where it is divided among the peripherals, thus the high power. In addition, the graphics chip in the Xbox 360 is a modified ATI chip. All in all, the components are mass-produced, making the cost quite low and hence the price of the Xbox 360 is lower than that of the 7800 GTX. But main thing is, the 7800 GTX can be overclocked to its full potential, provided u have the required cooling solution. But the Xbox 360 cannot. Thats the main difference

It has 3 3.2ghz cores on one die

 

[CrossFire851]

have ever heard of multi-threading there is really no modding

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Rage_3K_Moiz]

Hey does anyone know about this supposed console that Apple's gonna be releasing. Check out this link
http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/articles/gpod/gpod2.htm

 

[dIsCo_dEaTh]

Dunno if someone has allready said this or not, dont have time to read the entire thread at the moment hehe. But as recent history has shown in the console market, that when they come out with something new and flashy it at first is more advanced then the PC.

However, over the course of time the Consoles hardware dosnt change, while hardware is ever expanding and growing, changing all the time. After a year or so of the console being out, you have the PC once again being the more advanced and veristle machine. Thats at least what my take on the console vs. PC war in the graphics and gaming department

-dIsC0

 

[crazdude]

lol, console gaming is good also, but its a lot more expensive, lol, but the bad thing with consoles is that they cant be upgraded so they have the lead in graphics for not too long, also i read that Nvidia is making the graphics chip for the PS3, if you think xbox 360 graphics are sweet right now, wait a year more to see what sony and nvidia will do, hehe, i bet it will be kick ****, am so buying a ps3 when it comes out, its also supposed to be around 700 to 800 bucks, lol. also consoles dont suck, they have some good advantages over pc, u dont need a new card to play the lastest games, they never loose fps, and also, games in consoles dont always use the best of the consoles capabilities stright away, like lets say when the x box or the gamecube came out, their first graphics where good in the time, like lets say halo 1 and luigis mansion, but then on the later stages of the consoles games such as halo 2 and resident eveil 4 were released, liike 4 years after, who at the time managed to madge graphics of games such as doom 3, half lfe 2, games that came out at the same time, developers dont spoil consoles, they always leave jiuce in them, until the time to use all it can do comes.

 

[SultanGris]

lol, console gaming is good also, but its a lot more expensive, lol, but the bad thing with consoles is that they cant be upgraded so they have the lead in graphics for not too long, also i read that Nvidia is making the graphics chip for the PS3, if you think xbox 360 graphics are sweet right now, wait a year more to see what sony and nvidia will do, hehe, i bet it will be kick ****, am so buying a ps3 when it comes out, its also supposed to be around 700 to 800 bucks, lol. also consoles dont suck, they have some good advantages over pc, u dont need a new card to play the lastest games, they never loose fps, and also, games in consoles dont always use the best of the consoles capabilities stright away, like lets say when the x box or the gamecube came out, their first graphics where good in the time, like lets say halo 1 and luigis mansion, but then on the later stages of the consoles games such as halo 2 and resident eveil 4 were released, liike 4 years after, who at the time managed to madge graphics of games such as doom 3, half lfe 2, games that came out at the same time, developers dont spoil consoles, they always leave jiuce in them, until the time to use all it can do comes.

The reason you dont need a new card to play new console games is because they dont improve anything, with pc, they are always improving, thusly they are better

 

[kiss]

COnsoles in my opinion are nothing to great.
They are good for fighting games(like Street Fighter etc), and driving games and.... Thats about it.
If you think CoD2 on 360 looked good? GO check out screen shots & trailers for Crysis. Now THATS good graphics: http://pc.ign.com/objects/694/694190.html
BUt why do graphics really matter so much when playing a game? SHouldn't the game play be more important? I find the majority of PC games are much deeper (With exception of things like FF) and longer and more fun in alot of ways.
Games that are on Consoles & PC are usually completely different to each other. THe PC ones are generally larger (in all ways) and better (performance, load times, graphics).
ANYWAY I have ranted... Check out Crysis, will be one not to miss

 

[admiralfreeman]

i couldnt be boffered to read the entire discussion.

so its like this.

consoles are gay for this reason they cant be made to work with a game that came out that by far surpases its capabilities. pc's can

the graphics are compressed forms of pc gpu's

a console dosent use specilizes recourses for each task pc does Ie memory (for remembering i sound so thick with that comment) cpu for prossesing gpu for grphics.
consoles share the resources.

pc games are cheaper and customisable.
IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM WILL A CONSOLE OPUT DO A ATI RADEON X1800XTX 512MB you can try but you'll fail


AND PURELY AND SIMPLY THE ONLY PEAOPLE WHO BUY CONSOLES ARE HOODED WANNABEE HARDBOYS WHO WANT TO PLAY FOOTIE SIMS WITH THEIR OTHER HOODED WANNABEE HARDBOY FRIENDS

 

[kiss]

i couldnt be boffered to read the entire discussion.

so its like this.

consoles are gay for this reason they cant be made to work with a game that came out that by far surpases its capabilities. pc's can

the graphics are compressed forms of pc gpu's

a console dosent use specilizes recourses for each task pc does Ie memory (for remembering i sound so thick with that comment) cpu for prossesing gpu for grphics.
consoles share the resources.

pc games are cheaper and customisable.
IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM WILL A CONSOLE OPUT DO A ATI RADEON X1800XTX 512MB you can try but you'll fail


AND PURELY AND SIMPLY THE ONLY PEAOPLE WHO BUY CONSOLES ARE HOODED WANNABEE HARDBOYS WHO WANT TO PLAY FOOTIE SIMS WITH THEIR OTHER HOODED WANNABEE HARDBOY FRIENDS

I hear that. 'Sif PC games don't rule for the simple fact that you can mod them!

 

[jamespoacher]

With PC's, you get the advantage of downloading patches and updates. With consoles, when theres a gameplay flaw or bug, you simply have to live with it. For instance, the original SSX for PS2 was a great game, however I couldn't unlock many items as the trick lists for characters besides Mac, were wrong.

Unfortunately the patches are a double edged sword as you can see by many developers releasing games while still technically beta and relying on patches to satisfy the consumers.

this is false... with the new xbox live system and even the old one, you can download new patches for games and also maps, carachters and other "Modified" content so long as you have the HDD add on. read up first m8.

i also have a few consumer made mods for Halo 2, allbeit my xbox is modded too, which is where microsoft got the idea of making modded content for thier games in the first place... look at the X360, it has an MP3 function which the xbox v1.0-1.6c never had unles you modified the bios in some way, and most of thier software was bought of xbox modders....

 

[crazdude]

consoles arent that bad, true conmsoles dont improve their hardware, they improve their games, and wtf? when has gaming been all about graphics, its about gameplay, soccom 2 is a poor graphics games, but it can it way more fun than any fancy looking games a pc can throw, so consoles do have better gampley, it aint about the eye candy, stop being shallow and say pcs rule only cuz of the eye candy, am not sayin they have crap games, they have sweet titles too but one is more liekly to find mu deep games in consoles. ol, casuals. I have noticed that most the people here have little experience with console gaming or none at all.

 

[SultanGris]

i didnt say consoles suck, i just said pc was better, i like consoles better for driving games, but theres no way the graphics can compare.

 

[crazdude]

lol, i never said consoles have better graphics, i said consoles have better games, ill be honest, the only 2 thigns computers are good for playing are first person shoorter and rts games, and first persons shooters can also be played good on consoles, so only rts games really, consoles have better quality games, i mean in gampley, not technics, lol, theres a lot of sweet looking games on pc, but about 2/3 of them are not as fun as playing a good consoles game with a good plot, and theme

 

[CrossFire851]

PLAY CSS With a 6600 or highier!!! fps on comp destroys the console.


PLAY BF2 OR OBLVION ON THE COMPUTER destroys FPS AND RPG'S


YOU'RE OPINIONS ARE GREAT BUT ARROGANT. PLAY ONE OF THE THREE ON A RESPECTABLE COMP AND YOU TWO WILL BE A BELIEVER.

 

[jamespoacher]

one thing that peeves me about console games is when the makers create a great story line but they bollox up the ending...

take Driver paralell lines for instance, i have recently completed it on the XBOX 1 and to be honest, the ending is a bit half hearted, the graphical quality is somewhat of GTA but a bit better, and the gameplay is almost axactly to the same specification to GTA apart from the era change, this is where it gets better than GTA

but enough of comparing driver to gta, if you plan on playing driver and don't want to know the ending dont read this post past this point....


well, you have to chase some crazy guy who's in a chopper that tries to kill you all the way through the game, but after you shoot the chopper down, he's sitting in front of you in an fmv sequence and some chick you've been working with says she wantsa him alive, but you want to kill him but in the end he goes with the chick... i wanted to see his brain splatter on the pavement myself though... which is the same as BLACK, the ending is bolloxed up, as are most endings to console gamers as the developers want to extend the life of thier product by ending the game cr5appy so they can make a bit more of the story up...

i havn't slept for 2 days obsessing over my crappy fps on cs source so if anyone wants to help me, post under this topic please

https://www.techspot.com/vb/topic47385.html

oh btw, PS2 sux, Xbox rox, Blackbolt is 31337, gl hf bb/

 

[persistantthug]

Lets make no mistake about this people,
Consoles play games. Thats what they do. It's dedicated pretty much to do that and only that, so it should be no wonder that its more efficient to play these games on a console.

Console gameing like PC's has evolved steadilly and they have proven themselves mightilly. When you put a game disk into a console you are almost guaranteed for said game to work correctly. While there's no absolute to this, you can bet it will be true more than 90% of the time. Can you say that about a PC?

Secondly, a console is many times LESS expensive than comparable PC. show me a kick **** PC that starts out 300-400 out of the gate. This is the undenyable strength of the console, you get and awesome gaming platform for a fraction of the cost of a gaming PC with no start up times, glitches, Windows errors, patches, service packs, etc......NO headaches.....THIS IS HUGE!!!!!.


Again price is a major and inescapable advantage, which PC users might claim translates into the PC's strength......the ability to upgrade. But I say thats its weakness. Why? CONSOLE DEVELOPERS CODE BETTER THAN PC DEVELPERS. Heresy you'll say, but think about it. When a fresh generation of consoles first arrives, they are more powerful than PCs for about a year or so, but then suddenly new tech arrives and once again the PC's take the lead, but consoles have traditionally kept the tech curve going strong with better, savvy and more powerful looking games in its own right. They HAVE TO....they have no choice. Console developers get resourceful and find out the hidden strengths of the unit's codding, they manipulate and skew the software into their favor where games like HALFLIFE 2 are able to be played on an 800mhz XBOX. PC developers do no such thing. They do not care about the platforms you the consumer must buy. They are not efficient in the least, thus you must go out and buy the latest $300-$600 graphics card or whatever to play the newest game in the store.


It is quite obvious PCs were NEVER meant to play games. Rather they are being forced to do it. Thats why you have to go out and spend $2000 for a machine to play them. Its akin to turning your car into a boat.....sure, you CAN do it.....it just wasn't supposed to and every so often you get rust and leaks because you pressed the issue in modifying it.....not to mention you spent a small fortune whereas, it would have been cheaper to just buy a boat.


If I had my choice I would ONLY play games on consoles, but alas I don't have a choice. For while I abhor the PC platform as a gaming machine, the games can not be denied. The games I like the most, MMORPG's are primarilly dedicated to PC's. But you can bet those dynamics will change. They are already changing (Final Fantasy Online). PC gaming won't die, it will soon be assimilated to console gaming and resistance will be futile.

 

[CrossFire851]

The whole coding thing has nothing to do with any thing just his/hers opinion.

 

[persistantthug]

^
No, the "codding" thing I speak of is more fact. I think you just misunderstood.

I'm not saying the games are better or worse, I'm merely pointing out the fact that console developers get and CREATE more mileage than PC develpers regarding both respective platforms.

The example of HALFLIFE 2 for XBOX serves as a good example. Final Fastasy Online For PS2 as another. How about Madden 2002-2006 for all consoles?

CONSOLE devs squeeze the life out of thier machines causing joy to customers who play their games, while PC devs don't.....They cause you to go out and spend 500 more bucks.


This also causes consoles to last longer than PC's as viable gaming machines.