PlayStation 5 rumored to use 8-Core Ryzen CPU, cost $500

$1,000 USD for an Iphone. $2,000 CAD (with taxes) for the lastest video card. Yeah $500 USD is a good deal. I just hope they bring out Last of Us 2 for original PS4 as well because I'd hate having to buy a new system just for that game. Spiderman, Uncharted, God of War, and Last of Us franchises are enough to make me a Playstation fanboy! I own an Xbox One as well but I'm upset that most games are also on PC so why get an Xbox One when you can play the games for a high end PC?
 
My guess, coincidentally, is that 2020 is also when we will see Bethesda release a sequel to Skyrim...playable both as VR or on a Screen.
 
500$ is a fair price.
You can always sell you old console to a friend to raise money for next gen. Besides, you can rent a game instead of buying or simply ask a friend to borrow it for a week. It's not like PC where they lock a game license on you and you only.

Huang ask 1200$ US(2000$ CAD) for a GPU and he wanted you to be a lab rat and play at 1080p with hiccups too. So 500$ US, for a console that just works, is a fair price.
 
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I'm on board for better hardware, but $500 is too much for the average consumer. Microsoft tried this with the XBONE at launch, did they not? Remember how Sony wanted $600 for the PS3?

Inflation matters. The PS3 was released in 2006 and according to inflation calculator for the US dollar this is now equivalent to $752.63.
That being said the console market also changed. Gamers are older and many have jobs. It is now a matter of PS5 games being compatible with PS4. People won't rush into buying something with a thin library of games. I think when the PS5 gets released PS4 original will fade out and games will be compatible with PS4 Pro and PS5, production for PS4 will cease, PS4 Pro will be base console until PS5+ gets released.
 
The shader count for a console has yet to break 1000. An rx 480/580/590 has 2304.

The PS4 Pro has 36CU (2304 stream processors). The Xbox One X has 40CU (2560 stream processors).

Edit: The original PS4 had 18CU (1152 stream processor), and even that is more than 1000.
 
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I think when the PS5 gets released PS4 original will fade out and games will be compatible with PS4 Pro and PS5, production for PS4 will cease, PS4 Pro will be base console until PS5+ gets released.

I think it makes more sense to keep PS5 and PS4 on the market and stop producing the Pro. The Pro will will likely not be a lot cheaper to produce than the PS5, and be significantly weaker. Hardcore gamers with interest in 4K will likely be willing to pay the extra for the PS5, while more casual gamers will want something cheap. So a 'PS4 Even Slimmer' and PS5 will likely be a good combination.
 
I'm on board for better hardware, but $500 is too much for the average consumer. Microsoft tried this with the XBONE at launch, did they not? Remember how Sony wanted $600 for the PS3?

But the price is a tremendous value! Yes the PS3 was $600, but it had Bluray. Players alone were costing more just to watch movies. Now they're $50, and PS4 Spiderman bundles are going for 199.

$500 doesn't sound expensive for 4K/60FPS. I paid that in TAX for when I started playing in 2013 when 4K was beginning stages on the PC (back when monitors were $3800 and needed dual cables) and SLI Titan X's to wish for 60FPS.

Phones are $1600 and selling like hotcakes. My iPad Pro (2018) was $2,000. Prices have skyrocketed and consumers will pay it.

I was always a PC fanatic, but Spiderman and Forza are just gorgeous on my OLED 65" and I get to recline on the sofa with the fireplace going. It's a game changer.
 
But the price is a tremendous value! Yes the PS3 was $600, but it had Bluray. Players alone were costing more just to watch movies.

I considered Bluray in PS3 to be added value, but it inflated the price of the console so much that it did hurt sales rather than help. It also delayed the machine's launch. PS3 sold very slowly at launch prices. X360 really did make huge inroads considering the dominance PS2 had prior. Sony thought the brand would carry that price to clear victory. It didn't.

So it's been proven the wrong strategy in the home console business to force an expensive technology upon consumers that they do not need and in lots of cases, do not want.

Bluray in PS3 is case in point. X360 worked great without it. Nobody thought X360's games were significantly worse because of the disc format. It was unnecessary cost included because Sony wanted to push their format, not because it made games better.

Kinect bundled with Xbox One the generation after is case in point two. Hey look at our new console $100 more expensive than the competitor, built entirely around our concept of this costly Kinect peripheral and less powerful because of that :joy: It crashed and burned. 6 months is all it took for Microsoft to throw the bundling in the bin such were sales.

Console consumers usually prefer a lower price with maybe the option to buy add ons. They see initial cost only. PC gamers usually prefer quality and are willing to pay the up front price for it.
 
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Xbox 360 $400 in 2005 is equal to $515 in 2018, so if the PS5 launches at $500 it will be cheaper than the xbox 360 was at it's launch. I think how well it does will all depend on what xbox does at the same time, if they have there new xbox ready for 2020 based on similar specs but they are selling for $350-400 we could see 2013 happen all over again but in reverse.
 
500$ is a fair price.
You can always sell you old console to a friend to raise money for next gen. Besides, you can rent a game instead of buying or simply ask a friend to borrow it for a week. It's not like PC where they lock a game license on you and you only.

Huang ask 1200$ US(2000$ CAD) for a GPU and he wanted you to be a lab rat and play at 1080p with hiccups too. So 500$ US, for a console that just works, is a fair price.

Um, they do locks games on console to a specific account. Anything bought off xbox live or the PS store is locked to your account. A good chunk of physical games also lock to a specific account and you have to install them. Sure you can rent, for $5 a day. You might as well buy the game at that point.

Only games purchased on steam or other DRM service is locked. You can buy from GoG and those games are not locked.

A used Xbox One right now will fetch you $100. When next gen launches and everyone is selling expect much less. New sells for $200 right now. It's not even worth the hassle to both TBH.

Why spend $1,200 on a graphics card when you can get better then console performance in a $150 graphics card? It's like complaining about the price of a lambo in comparison to your regular everyman's car. Of course the most powerful graphics card on the market is going to be expensive. If you don't have that money that you can get faster then console performance at a tiny fraction of the price.

I find the new PSVR2 interesting. Sony apparently still thinks VR is promising. I'll wait and see how it turns out.

Still, that's all a long way off. Considering how long into a console product cycle I typically buy, I might own a PS5 in 2025. (Except for the Wii U, which I bought only 4 years after release, but Nintendo was stopping production, so they rushed me.)

Edit: After some fact checking, I actually bought the Xbox 360 7 years after introduction, so I guess I'm just not consistent enough. Xbox 360 after 7 years, Wii U after 4, Xbox One after 5.

VR is still going strong although has some roadblocks. Depending on what you want from VR though the Oculus Quest might just be enough. It's completely wireless and doesn't require a console or PC. It can play VR games and has AR features.
 
Depending on what you want from VR though the Oculus Quest might just be enough.

What I personally want is a higher resolution Oculus Go.

The problem I have with the Oculus Quest's hardware is that it's rather weak, so gaming will likely be limited on it compared to a PSVR/2. The Go is more limited, but it would be a great 360 video viewer if only it had a higher resolution.
 
Both off them Xbox 2 and ps5 will be monster machines bottom line games for sure and sorry high end pc will still be better but hi that's way it is
 
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