Revisiting Battlefield V Ray Tracing Performance

[EndRessentiment]

You have made no logical reasoning as to why Nvidia should be selling parts cheaper.

My conclusion is you just want to pay less. Of course we all want to pay less. But for some reason you are making out that it’s immoral for Nvidia not charge less because you have likened it as an “awful thing”.

Nvidia can charge what they like for a graphics card. It’s not immoral if they want to sell more expensive cards. They haven’t even made graphics cards more expensive as you get more for your money now than you ever have.

This is just to clarify - I don't think I can convince you.
I don't need to have a direct, personal and tangible interest in it to argue some point, you're mistakenly assuming that.

I dislike what NVIDIA's doing, I think they're a business that doesn't respect customers (they're certainly not the only company, but some companies do seem decent in this regard). I don't think that qualifies as "immoral" in any important sense, but I rebuke them for it.
I'm criticising the buyer part of the equation just as much. This is all just nonsense and idiocy to a too high degree. People don't like admitting their irrationality, and hence don't. (I know I can be quite irrational at times)

 

[Sausagemeat]

This is just to clarify - I don't think I can convince you.
I don't need to have a direct, personal and tangible interest in it to argue some point, you're mistakenly assuming that.

I dislike what NVIDIA's doing, I think they're a business that doesn't respect customers (they're certainly not the only company, but some companies do seem decent in this regard). I don't think that qualifies as "immoral" in any important sense, but I rebuke them for it.
I'm criticising the buyer part of the equation just as much. This is all just nonsense and idiocy to a too high degree. People don't like admitting their irrationality, and hence don't. (I know I can be quite irrational at times)

I don’t like increasing prices either mate. But it’s the way things are going. Speaking of rationality it’s irrational to expect Nvidia to sell their products cheaper than they currently are. Why should they?

 

[dragonherder]

And this is exactly what everyone in CGI has been saying since well before the RTX lines emerged. The processing power isn't anywhere near "ready" for realtime. We've already had GPU-based raytracing for well over a decade, with Vray-RT, Redshift, and Octane. They work great - for PREVIEW viewport rendering, where we can then adjust lights, shaders, and composition of the scene more rapidly than with the older DX or OpenGL previews (especially in Maya) or even the IPR modes in mental ray, Vray, and Arnold.

And all of that is BEFORE the RT cores emerged. There simply isn't enough of them and they just aren't powerful enough yet for realtime raytracing. Reflections alone aren't "realtime raytracing" by a long shot. Refractions, shadows, volumetrics, importance sampling, global illumination, blurry reflections/refractions - all of these things are missing from Nvidia's toys so far. It was and is just a gimmick. And the RT cores do almost nothing to speed up Vray-RT, Octane, or Redshift yet. It's almost hilarious that Nvidia would make such a leap off the cliff, into nothing.

While true you have to start somewhere with this stuff. You need to start small in this case and let the hardware and software mature alongside one another.