Rumor: AMD is up for sale, Dell may be interested

Didn't realize Dell had that kind of capitalization? They offered $2B for 3PAR in the bidding war with HP last fall. To get a rough estimate of "who can buy who", look at their comparitive market cap (market cap = total price to purchase all the company stock):
AMD = $6B
Apple = $330B (was "only" $208B in Jan 2010)
Cisco = $104B
Dell = $27B
EMC = $56B
Google = $200B
HP = $105B
IBM = $200B
Intel = $119B
Microsoft = $227B
Oracle = $166B

AMD's low cap makes them easily digestable by any of the tech heavyweights.
 
Guest said:
Didn't realize Dell had that kind of capitalization? They offered $2B for 3PAR in the bidding war with HP last fall. To get a rough estimate of "who can buy who", look at their comparitive market cap (market cap = total price to purchase all the company stock):
AMD = $6B
Apple = $330B (was "only" $208B in Jan 2010)
Cisco = $104B
Dell = $27B
EMC = $56B
Google = $200B
HP = $105B
IBM = $200B
Intel = $119B
Microsoft = $227B
Oracle = $166B

AMD's low cap makes them easily digestable by any of the tech heavyweights.
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Wow , Dell sell such crap computers and their service/support is complete and utter rubbish, how are they worth so much?
 
Dell's not stupid enough to make the same mistake that they made a couple of years ago. I doubt they're going to go for it.
 
DELL makes the game of INTEL !!!! DELL had tradition to make INTEL's game before, refusing AMD products. Dont forget, DELL had been helped by Intel few years ago. If DELL buy AMD indeed, is over the competition on CPU-s . All of us we will loose. They' ll manipulate the CPU market

INTEL want to put a plug on the bottle of x86 putting DELL to buy AMD

INTEL dont want competition from AMD Buldozer anymore !!!

AMD shareholders have not to be stupid to sell AMD before Buldozer launch
 
If the rumor is true I would have expected other tech giants to be interested in AMD over Dell. This move doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and I hope this is as far as it goes.
 
Dell is bad, Dell refused to use AMD, blah blah blah :)

Truth is, Dell can make some decent machines, and make a ton of them. They ARE still alive and thriving, after all. Corporate sales tend to keep them humming along nicely, mostly workstations and servers. I can agree, their laptop division has really had some ups and downs in recent years (mostly downs, in my opinion), but they really aren't THAT bad...

And, as for the "refusing to use AMD" hogwash. They didn't REFUSE to use AMD, they just had massive lucrative deals with Intel that prohibited them from using AMD. Big difference. It was Intel's anti-competitive practices(pricing structures, penalties for using competitive products, and questionable bonuses for NOT using competitive products) that were the crux of the lawsuit. Intel was paying Dell not to use AMD, and Dell was going along with it to save money on the best hardware choice for their products. Ah, but we can't point the finger where it belongs (at Intel's practices), so let's make Dell the scapegoat, shall we?

And, just to clarify, I am not saying Dell was innocent in choosing not to use AMD. There were shady dealings going on between Intel and Dell's management, and (as they say) it takes 2 to tango. But, bottom line is, if no deals had been conjured up by Intel to try to strangle AMD's market share, then there would never have been any issue (or lawsuit).
 
Relic said:
If the rumor is true I would have expected other tech giants to be interested in AMD over Dell. This move doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and I hope this is as far as it goes.
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Much ado about nothing in my opinion.
If (and it would be a monumentally HUGE if) Dell acquired AMD, what would the chances of AMD CPU's, APU's and GPU's continuing to appear in Hewlett-Packard, Acer/Gateway, Lenovo (Toshiba, Asus etc, etc...) OEM machines? 1%...0% ? Why would any Dell competitor continue to stock AMD options and contribute to Dell's profit line?
 
Why does this even warrant speculation? It's not as if AMD is a terribly attractive buy in any way, shape, or form at the moment.
 
yRaz said:
BTW, if you ever go with an Intel system I'd be interested in taking that POS 1090T off your hands.
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You got it... When I can afford the parts for the Intel box, I'll make you a good deal on the 1090T.

Like I said, it may just be a string of bad luck, but I'm pretty much done with AMD.
 
The question is why would anyone want to buy AMD? Their GPUs are OK but are behind Nvidia's, their current CPU's are getting nothing but pointless 100mhz speed bumps, Bulldozer is taking forever to release and even once it does I suspect nothing but performing lower than expected.

AMD is viewed as a value brand, while appreciated, it cant sustain that image forever. They need to have all bases covered and right now they can only do low end and mid end stuff. High end is dominated by Intel and Nvidia.
 
Wendig0 said:
yRaz said:
BTW, if you ever go with an Intel system I'd be interested in taking that POS 1090T off your hands.
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You got it... When I can afford the parts for the Intel box, I'll make you a good deal on the 1090T.

Like I said, it may just be a string of bad luck, but I'm pretty much done with AMD.
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You just have some bad luck or something, but honestly you cant go wrong with Intel. I've used Intel for as long as I can remember, and my 965BE is my first AMD cpu. Although its more than enough for my needs, my next build is going to be Intel. Honestly, it's better to save up and fork for something better even though its more expensive.

AMD has been on a downhill slope the past few years and doesn't look like it will change unless they start making some high end stuff for high end users.
 
They lock all their products, and make it impossible for large-scale upgrades, I wouldn't mind if HP buys them, as long as the quality of the products stay the same, wonder why AMD does so bad even with their own line of GPU's.
 
madboyv1 said:
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Also, not all Dell products are bad (GASP). Their branded IPS displays are some of the best considering their pricepoints and connectivity.
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I agree, I have a dell Dimension 5100 that has been running strong for ~5 years. It had a Radeon X300 video card died about 3 months ago, but a new power supply (yes, dell power supplies are replaceable) and a new Radeon 4650 brought it back to life.

"IF" (heavy emphasis) Dell buys AMD, I would still by from AMD. Just because Dell owned them would not turn me away, like AMD acquiring ATI did not ruin ATI. I just finished building my first computer (Athlon II X4 640 based) and I feel that AMD is very strong at the budget and mid range price points.
 
Guest said:
Didn't realize Dell had that kind of capitalization? They offered $2B for 3PAR in the bidding war with HP last fall. To get a rough estimate of "who can buy who", look at their comparitive market cap (market cap = total price to purchase all the company stock):
AMD = $6B
Apple = $330B (was "only" $208B in Jan 2010)
Cisco = $104B
Dell = $27B
EMC = $56B
Google = $200B
HP = $105B
IBM = $200B
Intel = $119B
Microsoft = $227B
Oracle = $166B

AMD's low cap makes them easily digestable by any of the tech heavyweights.
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Imagine how rich a multi-trillionaire would be, capable of buying all these companies, he'd probably rule the world, but that'd just be an ideal situation, as government would stop him.
 
TeamworkGuy2 said:
madboyv1 said:
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Also, not all Dell products are bad (GASP). Their branded IPS displays are some of the best considering their pricepoints and connectivity.
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I agree, I have a dell Dimension 5100 that has been running strong for ~5 years. It had a Radeon X300 video card died about 3 months ago, but a new power supply (yes, dell power supplies are replaceable) and a new Radeon 4650 brought it back to life.

"IF" (heavy emphasis) Dell buys AMD, I would still by from AMD. Just because Dell owned them would not turn me away, like AMD acquiring ATI did not ruin ATI. I just finished building my first computer (Athlon II X4 640 based) and I feel that AMD is very strong at the budget and mid range price points.
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Some Dell's aren't that bad. I guess it depends on what people expect it to do. We still have a Dell with a Pentium D still running strong. Although extremely slow by today's standards, it still runs apps just fine.
 
R3DP3NGUIN said:
If Dell buys AMD I am definitely switching to Intel :)
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Same here, Dell's products are over priced and break down a lot. I hope amd stays in the game to keep intel in check and keep giving us best bang for the buck cpus.
 
AMD makes great products. I'd hate to see Dell acquire it, mainly because Dell products, overall that is, are not on par with AMD's quality; which in turn, could make the products produced out of this merge, inferior ones in comparison. As many have pointed out with Alienware.

However, looking at it from a different standpoint, could it be that maybe this could make Dell produce better products? It's all a variable, to be honest.

But if I, or we, had a choice, I'm positive we'd all choose another company to acquire AMD. I'd personally like ASUS or Toshiba to acquire AMD, maybe HP. (Hell, even Acer!)

Hopefully, this is nothing but a rumor.
 
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