Does it not seem worth mentioning that those who invest in the LGA1151 with a Core i3 or i5 processor for example face getting bent over years later with overpriced Core i7/i9 processors?Steve,
I respect your work alot. But I must say, you bring up the used Intel market quite a bit. Intel stuff just holds better value.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Meanwhile 1st and 2nd gen Ryzen owners will almost certainly have access to cheap 12 and 16-core parts down the track? Seems like a big plus for investing in AM4 to me...
I'm not hating the player, nor the game, I'm simply stating facts and providing evidence to support those facts.
This might be of interest: https://www.techspot.com/review/1859-two-years-later-ryzen-1600-vs-core-i5-7600k/The assertion that "within a year almost all new games and applications will benefit from 8 cores" got my attention too. If that's true, 1) that is huge, seismic, industry changing news; and 2) then many of those games and applications must be in the active development pipeline now, and perhaps even available to discuss under the right terms.
I think this assertion merits an article of it's own.
As much as I'd like it to be true, I'm highly skeptical. Outside of the usual multi-threaded suspects, which have been the same categories of specialized use cases for years now, most applications for most users do very little with more than one core. That's because the fundamental issues - either that the tasks are just not suited for parallel computation, or that the programmer cost to achieve it exceeds the value of the solution, or that there is years of legacy code / plugins / compatibility issues that can not be solved by a single developer - have not changed in years either.
To be clear my comment has nothing to do with any specific chip or whose team I'm on. The issues are more fundamental than that and if there's reason to believe something has truly shifted, I'd like to know the evidence and what was behind it.
The 7700K is far from a great chip, it's merely a factory overclocked 6700K. Moreover there are boat loads of them for sale on eBay at this very moment. As I explained in the article, they hold their value because people who invested in that platform have no other option, their wallets are being held at gun point. They can either spend $220~ on a second hand 7700K or $200 on an R5 3600 + $100 on a B450 motherboard. While the later would be a much smarter choice, many opt to save the $100 and go the quick CPU upgrade route.You forget the mention Ryzens weakness, and Intels strength. The 7700k can be easily overclocked to 5GHz. Easily surpassing a 3600, even with PBO enabled.
You guys keep crying about used parts pricing. The issue is supply and demand. The 7700k is still a great chip. Many many where sold, but not many are getting upgraded/resold.
Ao there's a ton of people on Intel's z170/z270 platform looking to upgrade.
Yes AMD chip is cheaper but there's also a mobo cost involved. Thus eliminating any savings.
What's sad is how many used 1st gen Ryzen chips are out there, being sold for dirt cheap.
Supply and demand.