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Some DirectX 12 features will require next-gen graphics hardware

By Scorpus ยท 44 replies
Mar 22, 2014
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  1. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    All I am saying is mantle is like the new kid on the block bringing new exciting features which will make games run better which in turn allows for tons more stuff to happen onscreen and then we have the old timers playing copycatchup Plus we kinda need something thats developed from a company that knows how graphics cards work like AMD/Nvidia ....
     
  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,516   +5,080

    I'll agree to that. :)
     
  3. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    I have just had a look at games that support DX11 and in all but three cases older versions of DX are also supported for games. I suspect the same will be true for the small number of games which will be DX 12 titles. It will be years before new games take advantage of DX12 and most will also support DX11, 10 and 9.

    Of course if MS restrict DX12 to W8 the game developers are more likely to delay adoption of DX12 as the market is too small.
     
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,516   +5,080

    That is the downside that I hope will push for them to support DX12 in Win7. Does MS want DX12 out now, or are they comfortable enough to wait till the next OS release?

    As much as I would like to see DX12 in Win7, my bet is they will wait it out. They will use DX12 as a selling point for their next OS. That's what they did with Win7 and DX11.
     
  5. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Delay it like they did like other DX's.
     
  6. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    But W7 is outselling W8 for the self build PC market. Just the sort of people who would want DX12!
     
  7. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Exactly the same scenario as XP & Vista
     
  8. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,516   +5,080

    I agree! But sadly, I don't think MS cares. Win7 has yet to see a DX update since launch. DX11.1 and DX11.2 has been designated Win8/Win8.1 versions only. There seems to be a destinct pattern between DX versions and OS releases from MS.
     
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  9. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    It is all a bit academic anyway as DX12 is not due out till 2015. Without doubt it will come with W9 which we all know will be the bees knees (could be touch and go). :S
     
  10. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    If old versions of windows are any indication it will take 5yrs or so for games to actually come out utilizing features that are in dx12 unlike games that just add it in and saw "Our game is developed with DX12 but we dont use anything new in DX12 so hey just use DX9 like we have for the past 10yrs"
     
  11. Railman

    Railman TS Booster Posts: 708   +101

    By which time we will be complaining about W10 :(
     
  12. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    W10 will have no mouse or keyboard functionality it will require input by voice and it will require the kinect and a MS account.
     
  13. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,529   +1,988

    MS needs dx12 to be light on the resources if they want windows 9 to be successful on tablets/laptops/smartphones.
     
  14. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Not just DX12 it needs windows to be super light on resources as well! Cant have another Vista haha
     
  15. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,482   +978

    I dont think that will be out till 2015. I doubt nVidia and AMD will implement DX12 into the next gen 22nm GPUs since DX12 is targeted at holiday 2015 games (late 2015). What was the trend with DX11 GPUs? It should follow the same one.

    Lets hope Battlefield 5 implements DX12 since it is during the timeframe of the DX12 release.
     
  16. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,937   +2,261

    I think they'll come out with the DX12 hardware next gen. The resell value on their old hardware will drop considerably and people like me will just not buy the DX11 hardware. Seriously, one GTX 680 should be enough for everyone. My 680 will easily last me another year or two. Only reason I'm not buying a cheap used one is that my money is better saved for next gen than spent on current gen. If I'm going to buy high end graphics hardware I want all the high end graphics features.
     
  17. Aggravatorx

    Aggravatorx TS Rookie

    Are you Kidding me this is how Microsoft will get you upgrade to windows 8
    yes it will support windows 7 but do more for windows 8-9 and then you will have to buy a new graphics card to fully support directx 12 which in there minds help on the pc slump.
     
  18. Anaron

    Anaron TS Rookie

    As far as I know, all GCN-based AMD cards will support whatever can be supported on DX11 hardware. As the article states, other features will require DX12 hardware.
     
  19. Geesus

    Geesus TS Rookie Posts: 22   +15

    More than unlikely I would say. Let's not forget that AMD designed the graphics rendering hardware of the xbone and I'm pretty sure that if they were building DX12 specced hardware they would know about it and probably also implemented it within the R9 gpu's?
     
  20. BBlair

    BBlair TS Rookie

    What part of older DX11 GPU's will support DX12 did you not understand? LOL, Jesus people!
     

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