Sony confirms PlayStation 5 details such as backwards compatibility, 8K graphics and SSD...

[DubiousFishHook]

Lots of negative comments even tho PS5 is a revolution, for the first time ever a console beats the **** out of PC's and yall are complaining like cmon. it will be real 4k with 8k upscale, the ssd will obviously not be just an small hybrid solution, in fact it will be better than a PC ssd. the audio will be incredible, PS5 will probably cost 700usd. I didnt even buy a PS4 but this... jesus what a machine.

 

[parowOOz]

Lots of negative comments even tho PS5 is a revolution, for the first time ever a console beats the **** out of PC's and yall are complaining like cmon. it will be real 4k with 8k upscale, the ssd will obviously not be just an small hybrid solution, in fact it will be better than a PC ssd. the audio will be incredible, PS5 will probably cost 700usd. I didnt even buy a PS4 but this... jesus what a machine.

OK, I'll bite.

PS5 doesn't even exist. How is it a revolution ? How does it "beat the sh#t out of PCs" exactly ?

 

[Squid Surprise]

Well, noone thought 1080Ti's replacement would cost twice as much and offer just 30% better performance, things change

3rd gen Ryzen CPUs will debut on the market this year, same goes for Navi. If the PS5 does launch in 2020 it will sport quite advanced and up-to-date hardware.

The SSD is quite interesting as they said it's faster than what we currently have availible for PCs. Makes me wonder just what the hell it actually is. How much faster ? Is it something like Intel's Optane DIMMs ? Would be awesome but I haven't heard anything about AMD having something to compete with Optane.

I'm not saying all of this proves anything. It's just a few reasons next-gen consoles MIGHT be more expensive than previous systems.

We're not talking about a 1080Ti or 2080Ti... we're talking about mid-range GPUs and CPUs.... they tend to be fairly predictable - and we're only going less than 2 years into the future...

Costs of mid-rang parts don't really change much other than adjusting for inflation. The person who posted "PS5 is gonna cost $1000" is therefore a complete fool...

Will it cost more than a PS4, almost certainly... but not much more than the cost of inflation.... perhaps $100-200 more....

If you've ever watched the Simpsons, watch the episode where Danny Devito plays Homer's lost brother.... and Homer designs the "average person's car" that costs $80,000.... First words Danny Devito says? "I'm ruined!"

If the PS5 costs $1000, the execs at Sony will be saying the same thing!

 

[parowOOz]

I understand it's not an apples to apples comparison and it wasn't meant to be one. It's more a reminder that a lot can change in a generation, especially when corporate greed takes center stage.

Do I expect the next PS to cost 1000$ ? No. Would I be shocked if it did ? Unfortuantely, also no. I mean, look what happened in the smartphone market - prices went totally insane. Wouldn't surprise me to see the same thing happen with consoles.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I understand it's not an apples to apples comparison and it wasn't meant to be one. It's more a reminder that a lot can change in a generation, especially when corporate greed takes center stage.

Do I expect the next PS to cost 1000$ ? No. Would I be shocked if it did ? Unfortuantely, also no. I mean, look what happened in the smartphone market - prices went totally insane. Wouldn't surprise me to see the same thing happen with consoles.

But the PS4 retailed for $400 at launch.... and the Pro retails for the same now...

Very few, if any, mainstream products double in price (and this would actually be 2.5x the price) between generations - even smartphones.

Smartphones haven't really increased as much as people think.... the 128GB iPhone 6+ (the most expensive smartphone at the time), which was released in 2014, cost $850USD...

The 512GB iPhone XS Max (the most expensive smartphone now) costs $1,450... yes, an outrageous increase - but not even double... and this is after 4 years.

And let's face it - almost everyone needs (or thinks they need) a smartphone. Hundreds of millions get sold... consoles aren't nearly as far-reaching, and can in no way command a 250% price increase between generations.

 

[axiomatic13]

To the people complaining that America doesn't have good 4k support yet. That's uniquely an American problem. Sony is from Japan, they have 8k HDTV channels there. So does plenty of other countries. Our broadcast companies and internet providers are WAY behind the curve on deploying new technologies. We have no one to blame but ourselves for this problem.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

It's not going to cost $1,000. Sony already played that game once with the $600 PS3, and it gave the generation to Xbox 360. PS5 will be $499 at most.

 

[Gezzer]

#1 I absolutely love the way the PS and Xbox offered support for 4K graphics, yet over 90% of the owners didn't have 4K HDTV.

I wonder how many will have 8KTV by the time these come to market? (Answer less than 1%)

"Will support" just means that the resolution "can be used". Certainly doesn't tell us how many FPS. When a $1400 video card can't do 4K at 60FPS, I won't be surprised when this releases incapable of doing 8K at 30FPS.

#2 Storage needs to be user definable. As far as I'm concerned, the main OS drive should be a 120 or less SSD and the system should offer an empty drivebay for any HDD or SSD we choose. Some people need more storage...some people need less.

I'd put all the new games that I'm playing on the SSD and then offload all my older games that I finished and stopped playing onto the HDD.

4.5TB on my Xbox One is a comfortable storage amount.

My desktop computer and laptop have around 3TB - 4TB of SSD storage each.

I agree with the concept of a storage bay of some type on the console. Games just keep getting larger and that isn't going to change with a more powerful machine. The PS5 (or whatever) needs to have future proof options like an easy to use fast swap drive bay.

As for 8K support it is again another future proof feature. Yes few people have or even will have 8K... now. But when you consider that the PS4 was released in late 2013 who knows what the majority of players will be using in 6-7 years. And frame rates are subjective, most players can't tell you if their playing at more than 30FPS. It takes a very discerning eye to notice an increase once you've been playing at a lower rate for awhile.

Secondly and more importantly IMHO 8K capability also ups Sony's VR game, by a lot. In fact that's what I feel should be a "must have" component of the PS5 bundle, a good quality VR headset. Right now VR is kind of like 3D HDTVs. It's nice enough but it just hasn't gone over the hump from niche' to mainstream. And the way things are looking now it might wither just like 3D did instead of making the transition.

If Sony decides to make the PS5 VR capable with a supplied headset as part of the standard retail bundle, they can design the system to be as user friendly and hardware efficient as possible, which will only help adoption rates for VR. Think of it like what happened with Bluray. By Sony including a Bluray drive in every PS3 regardless of cost they pole vaulted the standard past HD. Microsoft making their HD drive an additional add on killed their standard.

Sony could always release a lower tier "basic" PS5 without the VR headset, and with a price cut, sometime down the road once the initial release period is over. IMHO if Sony releases the VR headset as an expensive addon option it might be the last nail in the VR coffin. Which is kind of sad. VR has so much potential in not just games. But without some major penetration of a reasonably high quality headset I'm afraid it'll never reach the numbers to create the content demand needed. We'll just get more Skyrim type projects IMHO instead of the "killer app" that VR desperately needs.

 

[regiq]

This means Navi will support hardware raytracing, right?

Good to hear about backward compatibility - I might actually buy... a PS4 on a sale. The games will stay waiting for PS5 slim

With the end of Windows 7 support comes the end of PC gaming for me - Win 10 tracking is not acceptable, time for a linux PC.