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Sony confirms PlayStation 5 details such as backwards compatibility, 8K graphics and SSD...

By onetheycallEric ยท 58 replies
Apr 16, 2019
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  1. 144hzGamer

    144hzGamer TS Addict Posts: 214   +132

    So many complains about the 8k. Ffs is just a SUPPORT, wich means you can output that resolution just like you can output 4k on a ps4 slim. If it will have hdmi 2.1 ofc it would support 8k. Doesnt mean games willnhave that native resolution ofc.

    Consoles are getting to that point where the differences to pc gaming are smaller and smaller. Im interested on this console for sure, while keeping my pc for multiplayer shooters.
    OptimumSlinky likes this.
  2. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,428   +1,885

    By the time it launches in 2020 4K should be the norm. It already is mainstream and cheap to buy.
  3. HyPeroxya

    HyPeroxya TS Enthusiast Posts: 86   +10

    4k is way off being te norm , Ive had 4k for about three years and have yet to see any 4k media , barring a few Youtube videos, (not even sure they played back in 4k). What intrigues me is the storage , they make it sound as if its better than any ssd avail now.. which in the cost constrained confines of console-land must surely be Bull droppings. Along with the whole 8k pile ...
    Gets us talking and interested tho .. so marketing has done its job
  4. Bubbajim

    Bubbajim TechSpot Staff Posts: 674   +655

    2020 still sounds like "the future" to me, even though it's 8 months away. Eek.
  5. Wessell Urdata

    Wessell Urdata TS Booster Posts: 51   +90

    That's like saying "because there is a low end phone with a low end chip, say, Snapdragon 435, that came out to the market, so I am not going to buy a flagship phone with Snapdragon 855, a flagship chip".

    No, the console are not going to get the highest end part. They are obviously going for midrange parts to cut costs.
  6. amghwk

    amghwk TS Guru Posts: 520   +315

    "While the console is as of yet unnamed..."

  7. Wessell Urdata

    Wessell Urdata TS Booster Posts: 51   +90

    No one would know if they whip out a Microsoft and name their next console PS One.
  8. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,428   +1,885

    I doubt it will launch that early in 2020 :D we will most likely see a holiday 2020 launch date or if we're lucky in spring.
  9. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,428   +1,885

    TV stations are just starting to add 4K content, but I don't see this problem with streaming services. I cut the cord anyway since nothing on TV interested me or I could not get online.

    There is plenty of content online and 4K TV sales much higher than you think. If I'm not wrong, half of the total TV displays sold in 2018 were 4K and in 2017 they accounted for about a third of the sales. 2019 is looking great for 4K TV sale numbers.
  10. money

    money TS Enthusiast Posts: 61   +14

    Again they make it sound like it will compete with high-end PCs when in actuality it will have mobile cpu and midrange gpu to keep the costs low.
  11. Bubbajim

    Bubbajim TechSpot Staff Posts: 674   +655

    Oh for sure. My bet is that it'll launch ~November 2020. I was more commenting on just how soon 2020 is, when it still sounds to me like the kind of year you'd use for a sci-fi film.

    Basically, my mental calendar is stuck somewhere around 2008.
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  12. amghwk

    amghwk TS Guru Posts: 520   +315

    8K.... seriously? Even the Titan and Ti cards are struggling to maintain 60fps 4K maxed out on powerful PCs.

    And on another note, it's amazing to see consoles continue using AMD-based CPUs and GPUs in them, while on PCs it's rivals are stealing the show, in terms of benchmarks, efficiency and heat production.

  13. Wasteak

    Wasteak TS Rookie

    They say this as their PS4 pro was able to do 4K... It's not real 4K, it's not even in 60fps. I'm pretty sure this won't be 8K anyway.
  14. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,428   +1,885

    They aren't talking about native 4K, just that it will be capable of outputting an 8K image (be it from a movie or upscaled 4K games)
    OptimumSlinky likes this.
  15. bluetooth fairy

    bluetooth fairy TS Booster Posts: 88   +61

    While 8K was kinda marketing flag here, yet Zen 2 alone could double or even triple fps on PS4 Pro, I suppose. They just can't show you that FPS counter, yet. But what they could show, they had delivered - I mean SSD vs HDD comparison.

    So 8K is about mind blowing things, and we have to admit, there's audience for it. Although meaningful conversation about relevant to nowsdays CPU&GPU stack would be welcome anyway.
  16. OptimumSlinky

    OptimumSlinky TS Addict Posts: 58   +147

    A lot of you don't understand the difference between output resolution and rendering resolution. PS5 can output at 8K; doesn't mean it's going to render games at 8K. Similar to how the Xbox One S can do 4K Netflix and HDR, but still renders games at 1080p or whatever setting the developer has selected. Stop making a big deal out of nothing.

    And why wouldn't Sony use AMD again? The PS4 was a smashing success (something like 90 million units sold), and unlike nVidia, AMD has proven it's willing to do semi-custom work for its partners and team up with Sony engineers to deliver what the PlayStation team wants, and doesn't charge an arm and a leg in licensing or royalty fees. There's a reason NONE of the consoles use Intel CPUs or nVidia GPUs (I know the Switch is a Tegra but that's basically an off-the-shelf B2B sale with little to no modification done for Nintendo).

    Nerds like us like to geek on the technical specs, but business partnerships hinge on relationships between people and parties, not fastest clock speeds or snazziest tensor cores.
    regiq and soulsassassin like this.
  17. bluetooth fairy

    bluetooth fairy TS Booster Posts: 88   +61

    I feel like I'm breathing in what feminists used to call mansplaining. But instead of becoming furious, I'm breathing out laugh, being a person who understands you.

    PS I've really got my experience levelled up since I had joined TS. Experience in people knowledge, about who they are and how they act playing different roles. I'm curious what's next :)
  18. Polycount

    Polycount TS Evangelist Posts: 1,750   +386

    As a side note, I'm very curious what Sony is planning for their SSDs that are apparently capable of outpacing "anything" PC SSDs can do.
    soulsassassin likes this.
  19. soulsassassin

    soulsassassin TS Addict Posts: 129   +56

    supporting PS3 games is not possible unless it's a simulation or a remastered version which involves rewriting codes , the price Sony paid for going with a CELL processor and a unique architecture
  20. soulsassassin

    soulsassassin TS Addict Posts: 129   +56

    maybe some sort of an intel Optane like memory that exceed SSD speeds in loading games at least , without having to opted for a sizable SSD for the whole storage
    parowOOz likes this.
  21. mat9v

    mat9v TS Rookie Posts: 16

    I wonder, he said it is faster then any SSD, did he mean SATA SSD or NVMe drive?
  22. Nero7

    Nero7 TS Evangelist Posts: 375   +153

    That thing is gonna cost like a thousand dollars or more. At that point get yourself a PC.
    A big reason to buy consoles is that they cost less than 500$.

    I bet this is all subject to change (fake). In 2 years you'll be looking at a "PS5" that is just 2 times as strong as a PS4 Pro but comes with SSD and UHD blu-ray for 400$.
  23. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,535   +1,533

    And how did you come up with $1000?!?! Any actual evidence?

    No Sony console has cost over $500 and I highly doubt this one will either... a mid-range CPU that is a couple years old (which is what will be inside the PS5 by the time it comes out) won't be very expensive... nor will an old AMD GPU.... we'll wait and see on the SSD, but we're almost certainly talking sub-$100 for whatever they actually use for storage. There's no reason to think this will cost north of $500 let alone $1000!
  24. parowOOz

    parowOOz TS Enthusiast Posts: 56   +29

    Well, noone thought 1080Ti's replacement would cost twice as much and offer just 30% better performance, things change :)

    3rd gen Ryzen CPUs will debut on the market this year, same goes for Navi. If the PS5 does launch in 2020 it will sport quite advanced and up-to-date hardware.

    The SSD is quite interesting as they said it's faster than what we currently have availible for PCs. Makes me wonder just what the hell it actually is. How much faster ? Is it something like Intel's Optane DIMMs ? Would be awesome but I haven't heard anything about AMD having something to compete with Optane.

    I'm not saying all of this proves anything. It's just a few reasons next-gen consoles MIGHT be more expensive than previous systems.
  25. DubiousFishHook

    DubiousFishHook TS Rookie Posts: 23

    The look of PS1 has aged horribly, it looks like a toy machine while Yaroze, the PS1 dev console is still the most beautiful console even tho the only difference is the color, light grey vs Yarozes darker grey.

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