Sony demands identities from Google, Twitter in PS3 hacking lawsuit

Emil

TS Rookie
Sony is threatening to sue anybody posting or distributing the jailbreak code for its PlayStation 3 gaming console. Furthermore, the electronics giant is demanding that a federal judge order Google and Twitter to surrender details of those involved, according to court documents "To the Declaration of Holly Gaudreau in Support of Motion for Expedited Discovery" (PDF: Exhibit J,

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Mizzou

TS Enthusiast
For Google, Sony wants the search company to hand over the IP addresses and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video posted on YouTube
I'm sorry, but that is completely over the top. To demand identities for anyone that has viewed or commented on the topic is pushing the envelope too far IMO. Note to self ... never buy another Sony product.
 

treeski

TS Evangelist
Mizzou said:
For Google, Sony wants the search company to hand over the IP addresses and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video posted on YouTube
I'm sorry, but that is completely over the top. To demand identities for anyone that has viewed or commented on the topic is pushing the envelope too far IMO. Note to self ... never buy another Sony product.
My sentiments exactly...
 

princeton

TS Addict
treeski said:
Mizzou said:
For Google, Sony wants the search company to hand over the IP addresses and other identifying information of those who have viewed or commented about the jailbreak video posted on YouTube
I'm sorry, but that is completely over the top. To demand identities for anyone that has viewed or commented on the topic is pushing the envelope too far IMO. Note to self ... never buy another Sony product.
My sentiments exactly...
Amen to that. Did they seriously expect the courts to force google to comply?
 
G

Guest

hah, yet another company utilizing a scorched earth campaign against "criminals". now we wait till someone like the EFF steps in.
 
G

Guest

Wow, I sure am glad I moved my pc into my living room and hooked it to the tv with a 25' hmdi cable instead of wasting it on PS3. Way to go Sony you bunch of greedy @$$3$ I mean really who the hell do they think they are.
 

Rick

TS Evangelist
So, when was it decided that hacking your own console was illegal?

Is this is not exactly like jailbreaking the iPhone which was determined to be legal by U.S. Copyright Office?
 

Cota

TS Enthusiast
TomSEA said:
Wow...ya think Sony is in a bit of panic mode right now?
Ask the same to all who cant play online whit out being nailed by hacks, far worse than SONY losing his chances to sell games (wich is more like the chances of 3rd party companies) they are losing the chances of giving a hack/cheat free services for their console, wich is the best defense to keep up Console gaming (I PC game, my bro plays PS3, but not since jailbreak).
 

Lurker101

TS Evangelist
I can see the courts telling Sony to get stuffed on this one. The way Sony's going about this is completely unacceptable, and quite childish. It's like a child having a hysterical fit. No doubt Sony will want my IP address, my computer, all of my external hard drives and all of my USB keys because I've seen the code and watched the youtube video.
 

Emil

TS Rookie
Rick said:
So, when was it decided that hacking your own console was illegal?

Is this is not exactly like jailbreaking the iPhone which was determined to be legal by U.S. Copyright Office?
It was only determined for phones recently, not for any other devices.
 
G

Guest

You do realize Sony is panicking because their alternative to this dudes hack is to start putting serial numbers on ps3 games in which case serial number will have a limited amount of uses, no letting your friends borrow your games, no trade in value for your games when Ur done with them, no buying used games if u don't want to pay full price. Yeah Sony is scared, so their doing all they can to avoid what their alternative measure could possibly be which do u want them to control it or serial numbers.
 

treeski

TS Evangelist
Guest said:
You do realize Sony is panicking because their alternative to this dudes hack is to start putting serial numbers on ps3 games in which case serial number will have a limited amount of uses, no letting your friends borrow your games, no trade in value for your games when Ur done with them, no buying used games if u don't want to pay full price. Yeah Sony is scared, so their doing all they can to avoid what their alternative measure could possibly be which do u want them to control it or serial numbers.
This "alternative" would only give people another reason to choose Xbox 360 over PS3. It's hardly an alternative.
 

TomSEA

TechSpot Chancellor
"So, when was it decided that hacking your own console was illegal?"

Problem isn't just hacking your own console. It's hacking copyright protected root keys and firmware, then posting it on the Internet for potential millions of PS3 owners to enable that same hack. If the guy had kept it to himself and never told anyone, we'd obviously never know about it and it wouldn't be an issue.

But hackers just can't help themselves. They hack more to get the notoriety and adulation of their hacker fans than creating any convenience for themselves.

There's no doubt in my mind that Sony is going to have a fair amount of success in it's lawsuits just as with the recent phone hacking rulings. However, demanding the IP addresses of everyone who looked at the hacker video is asinine.
 
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Guest

haha nerdrage

in greece games cost 70euro so good 4 us
i dont own ps3 but this is just rofl
 

Relic

TechSpot Chancellor
This is absurd to say the least and I have no idea how Sony thinks this will help them in anyway besides terrible PR. I never imagined the day where Microsoft would embrace the hacking/homebrew community but Sony tries to villanize and shut them down.

Rick said:
So, when was it decided that hacking your own console was illegal?
Back in 1998 when the DMCA was passed and signed into effect. Since everything in the digital age is tied in with licenses or some form of encryption corporations believe they have sole ownership and consumers have zero rights from my understanding. The passing of it was one of the biggest mistakes by our government and completely anti-consumer.

Guest said:
You do realize Sony is panicking because their alternative to this dudes hack is to start putting serial numbers on ps3 games in which case serial number will have a limited amount of uses, no letting your friends borrow your games, no trade in value for your games when Ur done with them, no buying used games if u don't want to pay full price.
If they did this, they would effectively be forfeiting this generation of consoles so I don't think they would attempt it. However it would not surprise me if next generation of all consoles has some form of strict DRM built into it for various reasons including this.

TomSEA said:
Problem isn't just hacking your own console. It's hacking copyright protected root keys and firmware, then posting it on the Internet for potential millions of PS3 owners to enable that same hack. If the guy had kept it to himself and never told anyone, we'd obviously never know about it and it wouldn't be an issue.
Just because Sony doesn't know about it, doesn't mean they would be okay with it. Probably more relieved since it isn't spreading but that's about it. And I never got the impression that Hotz was doing these hacks for malicious reasons, but rather to open up these closed systems and let us actually be able to fully utilize them the way we see fit. He made it clear he doesn't support piracy on the PS3 and didn't enable it in his jailbreak from my understanding.
 

slh28

TechSpot Paladin
Sony should just ban the consoles from PSN and leave it at that. No games company will ever win the war against piracy, and for me and many others the most enjoyable part of gaming is playing online anyway.
 

aj_the_kidd

TS Rookie
I would hate to see what would happen in the future if Sony is sucessful in its little hissy fit demands, I would imagine allot more companies will be able to use this case as part of their lawsuit
 

treetops

TS Evangelist
Good maybe now game companies wont focus on consoles as much anymore since they aren't as secure. What do they expect out of a 6 year old console? It comes down to our rights, do we have the legal right to have our privacy protected when using google or twitter?
 

Tanstar

TS Evangelist
slh28 said:
Sony should just ban the consoles from PSN and leave it at that. No games company will ever win the war against piracy, and for me and many others the most enjoyable part of gaming is playing online anyway.
I think the problem is that because this hack is of the root key, Sony has no way to determine which consoles are hacked without inspecting each one. They don't show up as different to the PSN and there is no hardware in the build of the PS3 that lets them monitor the root key. If it just took a firmware upgrade to fix or detect Sony would just relock the consoles or not let them access the PSN. Glad I don't play MMP games on the PS3! I play RPG and Action games on my PS3 and save the MMP games for my PC :)
 
G

Guest

Sony,

Get a life you douche-bags. I will not buy another Sony product if they have such hissy-fits and demand to take everyone down.

In closing,

Sony, Eat a **** ****.