Tesla's residential battery system leaked, here's everything we know

[cliffordcooley]

This battery nonsense has to stop sooner than later. It is just not the answer.

It's only nonsense to someone as a consumer who wants to burn up earths resources, and don't care how they do it. Which side of the fence Musk stands on is completely irrelevant. Batteries in home can be used with devices that collect solar and wind as forms of energy collection. Yet here you are calling it non-sense, wanting to continue depleting our resources. If you have a better plan, lets hear it. If not, don't stand in the way.

 

[Guest]

It's only nonsense to someone as a consumer who wants to burn up earths resources, and don't care how they do it. Which side of the fence Musk stands on is completely irrelevant. Batteries in home can be used with devices that collect solar and wind as forms of energy collection. Yet here you are calling it non-sense, wanting to continue depleting our resources. If you have a better plan, lets hear it. If not, don't stand in the way.

You seem confused and your reply doesn't make any sense but rather makes assumptions about what "I think". I do have alternative ideas that are beyond your average person's comprehension and judging by your reply, you fall in that category so I won't waste my time.

 

[cliffordcooley]

so I won't waste my time.

We already knew that if you don't take the time to log in. So honestly you don't even want to be here. You are just passing through. Just like all the other guest, they come and go. Absolutely nothing new there.

 

[Guest]

Lol I thought Nikola Tesla had some freaky battery that kicks *** and files or blueprints have leaked B|

 

[Guest]

I think many of you missed the application of this technology.

This is a" cheap patch work" for PG&E, to patch the failing infrastructure, by widely distributing the power-grid and storage of electricity, while putting the cost of the infrastructure on the people who buy into the system.
The buy electricity at night and then sell back during the day to give short sighted home owners a sense that they are milking the system when in reality they are not.

The purpose of this system is to take the strain off the electrical grid by dispersing the collection and storage of electricity to where and when it is needed. and also to have stored energy for during the peak hours when brownouts and blackouts occurs due to too much demand on a old and failing infrastructure.

This payback collecting and selling back, scheme is calculated in such a way that PG&E is paying those that shared the cost of storage and production of electricity (those that bought the battery system) which cost them far less than building new infrastructure
One of the big clues that I am right, is how long the battery would actually last for average home if the grid went down.

so the store at night sell back in day is NOT actually costing the other customers. If anything it is helping PG&E keep the price down by not having to hike rates to cover the cost of new infrastructure to replace the old infrastructure( that can not be updated frequently as new tech comes out) vs as quickly as updating the battery system in peoples homes can be as new tech comes out.

The dispersed grid system, is actually the future in energy, because it will be harder for it to fail, because of the huge level of redundancy and being spread over a large area. Only thing that would knock such a grid out is environmental disasters or super flare NASA warned us about, but with the system spread wide it is still going to be ok because the surrounding area will funnel its stored energy to the knocked-out areas.

in regards to buyback, what you need to see, the buyback at higher rate, is the compensation to those that are in a way, an employee of PG&E, because they are sharing in the cost and space and storing and redistributing energy on behalf of PG&E.

Corey

 

[Guest]

It's only nonsense to someone as a consumer who wants to burn up earths resources, and don't care how they do it. Which side of the fence Musk stands on is completely irrelevant. Batteries in home can be used with devices that collect solar and wind as forms of energy collection. Yet here you are calling it non-sense, wanting to continue depleting our resources. If you have a better plan, lets hear it. If not, don't stand in the way.

Also want to add to your comment regarding wind and solar in regards to batteries.
Solar and wind only works, if we have a high and long-term capacity to store said energy. By allowing the homeowner to store the energy and redistribute it in the neighborhood, you do not loose said energy being sent over long distances on exposed power-lines(last I heard 10-20% loss).
Any thing that store energy is called a battery for simplicity sake, even though it may not be an actual battery. (word battery is used, so ignorant people automatically thing storage of energy, without having to understand the science, chemistry, physics behind it.)

I suspect the user who said batteries should not be used, is bit ignorant to reality of our "world we wrecked".

At this point we don't have a choice but to use technology to survive. The goal is to find a balance that we don't further destroy the earth, while adapting to the changes that are playing catchup to the damage we already caused. And that means developing methods of storing/producing energy that is more environmentally sustainable.

If this ignorant poster has issues about batteries and the destruction of earth from them. I think they should focus more on human breeding patterns and educating people on why big families is the real reason we are in trouble.
7 bil people about 5 billion above the carrying capacity of earth. please don't respond to the population part of my post, I was just pointing out where this persons energy should be focused on in regards to slowing the destruction of earth.

corey